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drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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Xeno posted:

Can see it now, fastest time around the Monaco GP circuit with normal traffic. Race vs a boat along the coast road. Clarkson spunks his car money in the Casino.

Yeah, would really not advise that, the police in MC aren't particularly renown for their sense of humour.

Actually, if it meant Clarkson ended up doing time, this could be the best Top Gear special ever!

drgitlin fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Jan 8, 2012

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drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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Dr. Gojo Shioji posted:

I was surprised they were so far apart from the 458 at Imola. I know it's The (Italian) Stig and everything, but all three of their cars posted noticeably faster times around their own track (McLaren 1:16.2, Aventador 1:16.5, M600 1:17.7 with a Cold condition) than the 458's 1:19.1. I would have assumed even with less skill they still would have been able to close the gap to around three seconds or so. I was wishing they would have Italian Stig do a lap with each of the cars after the fact just to see if the faster times would have translated to a proper F1 track.

No, they really are that much slower than a professional driver.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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3 posted:

Frankly, the SIARPC didn't really bother me as much as the fact that they somehow forgot to mention Ratzenberger in their Imola casualty montage :smith:

Yeah, I was a bit pissed off about that.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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CornHolio posted:

You guys should really be watching Top Gear US. This is hilarious. I can't believe i'm enjoying this better than the original.

Yep, sad to say but I think the US version is actually a better show. The guests actually care about cars rather than being some random celeb pushing their poo poo movie, the scripted bits are less obviously scripted, and I don't have to suffer Clarkson and Hammond being giant loving cunts who need to be first against the wall when the revolution comes.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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ZippySLC posted:

At what point in time do you stop watching?

When my wife stops watching.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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Cojawfee posted:

I really just want to start racing, but the only track near me is some country club track. Hopefully that F1 track in Austin has some stuff.

https://www.chumpcar.com

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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ColdPie posted:

I suspect it's there for mass market appeal. Wife & kids won't watch it but for the SIARPC segment, etc. It is a shame they have to waste that time, though. I always just fast forward through it.

IIRC it means the show counts as a certain kind of light entertainment programme for the BBC budget.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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ROFLBOT posted:

for a minute there i thought i was the only one who found the P45 segment to be stupid, not particularly funny, ridiculously contrived and far too long.

The Bentley segment however... awesome. Really would like to see more footage (behind the scenes maybe?) of it!

No, like most Clarkson segments, they ran that poo poo into the ground and then kept digging.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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KozmoNaut posted:

So the Brits consider it British, and everyone else sort of disagrees, but can't be arsed to do anything about it?

It's British in exactly the same way Hawaii and Alaska and Puerto Rico are American.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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blk posted:

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I wonder how wearing the Union Jack in Britain is taken compared to wearing a giant Stars and Stripes jacket/shirt/whatever in the States.

No one gives a poo poo because the only people who obsess about the flag in the UK are National Front facists. Most people couldn't even tell you if it was upside down or not. Oh, and it's the Union flag if it's not on the back of a ship :eng101:

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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echomadman posted:

I really think they should replace Hammond with Chris Harris, he's miles better and the generational gap comedy between Clarkson&May vs Hammond thats a bit tired now would be rejuvenated (Jeremy wouldn't have to ask the audience what Spotify is)

Couldn't disagree more. Top Gear would ruin what makes Harris great, and dilute him down to lowest common denominator light entertainment.

To elaborate, Top Gear isn't a car programme these days, it's an entertainment programme which happens to feature cars. Once you accept that, it becomes a lot easier to understand.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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If you want to watch 20 minutes about why Singers are so cool, you're not Top Gear's target audience. Luckily for you, there's Chris Harris on Drive and he did just that in January. It's even been linked in this thread already.

Top Gear is light entertainment that features cars. If you want car nerdery, you have to accept you need to go look somewhere else.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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Zlatan Imhobitch posted:

Because 4wd cars are boring and fail. Essentially the opposite of what an alfa should be. Argh.

No, the best Alfa was awd:


Alfa Romeo 155 DTM by Mark Haverty, on Flickr

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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Bumming Your Scene posted:

It was bizarre Clarkson asking what crystal meth was, they don't have amphetamines there?

No. Cocaine is readily available (try going into the bathroom at any London pub or restaurant and I guarantee you there'll be the remnants of people having done lines on the cistern) and so are Es.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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Powershift posted:

The suggestion that the laferrari-p1-918 comparo won't happen because ferrari doesn't lend top gear cars.

I don't think it's just Ferrari; I can't imagine any of the three would really be up for a triple test and that's why none of the car mags have done one (closest so far is Evo where Dickie Meaden drove the P1 and 918 on the same day), so it's not just a Top Gear thing.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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Bigsteve posted:

Clarkson and Wilman have been friends for years. This will just end up being them having a barney that some newbie assistant then reported. Wilman will say nothing happened cause he knows hes on to a good thing and everything will go back to normal.

It wasn't Wilson, it was another, more junior producer. And it's not going to be all right. Is it OK in your work place for your boss to have a strop and punch you? Because that's not OK anywhere I've ever worked, and there is absolutely not excuse for a superior to physically attack one of their staff in this day and age.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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HotCanadianChick posted:

I'd frankly rather have one of my bosses punch me rather than have had them do some of the lovely as gently caress things they've done to me in the past, if it will mean they'll be less lovely in other ways.

I see. Is there a line? Like, if you're late for work two days running a punch in the face is OK, but if it's more serious then maybe they cut off a finger? How about burning? Or just things that don't leave a mark? Is it only straight-up physical violence, or can the odd rape or two be used to discipline staff?

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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T1g4h posted:

What the gently caress happened to this thread? :psyduck:

It's about ethics in light entertainment, and a bunch of gamergators are shitposting.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

Usually most test cars need a full teardown / rebuild or just simply get crushed once jounalists have finished with them. I'm surprised BMW sold the test car to a unsuspecting buyer, that's a bit of a dick move.

They get sold, they don't get crushed.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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88h88 posted:

It's like people haven't realised that journos are often just people with degrees in writing and a passing interest in a subject.

I am living proof of that.

quote:

if you were paid to write words about cars wouldn't you drive like a complete arsehole?

No, i don't believe that's true. I may well be an outlier though.

quote:

The fastest car in the world is a rental car and all that...

The thing is, most press fleets are managed by one of two companies (FMI and ESI) and you better believe they keep notes on who's driven what and the condition we hand those cars back in. The trouble is if you work for an important enough publication (like C&D, R&D, etc) then they're still going to give you the cars even if you hand them back with tens of thousands of dollars worth of damage.

Koirhor posted:

Just want to reiterate cause it can never be said more, NEVER SPEED IN VIRGINIA. Until the jailtime part of reckless driving gets revoked somehow.

As I'm based in DC this is a real problem for me, since all the good driving roads are down in VA. :(

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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Jealous Cow posted:

Joplin Rd through Prince William Forrest Park for example.

Will have to check that out. Had a magnificent drive through the George Washington National Forest earlier this year in an R8, would love to do that again but most of the supercars we've had to review have had mileage limits that prevent me getting that far out.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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blk posted:

I need something to watch. Used to watch Wheeler Dealers but got burnt out on the formula. Clarkson hasn't put out any specials lately that I know of. I've watched both seasons of Cars of the People. Haven't seen 5th gear in a couple of years; has it gotten any better? Any of the TG US/Oz/France or wherever else they do it any good?

I'm not really interested in shows where they build projects. Sometimes I choke down RCR; Everyday Driver can be hard to watch sometimes but has some good behind-the-wheel insights.

You can watch our videos at Ars Technica ;)

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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IOwnCalculus posted:

Honda has purchased/borrowed/otherwise obtained a number of important race cars over the years, and with all of the computer-controlled ones, they even make sure to keep a set of the period-correct computers needed to interface with them so that they can be fired up.

F1 teams like Mclaren and Williams have to do the same thing to ensure their archives can still run under their own steam.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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BBC America are giving Chris Harris his own show (which won't be broadcast in the UK): https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jul/08/top-gear-chris-harris-youtube-bbc-america?CMP=share_btn_tw

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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Ola posted:

The best comedy character to host Top Gear is clearly Alan Partridge. He could do a historical look at the best Lexi for instance.

Steve Coogan is also a confirmed petrolhead, and iirc used to contribute to Evo.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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The Grand Tour has gone all-out advertising at the LA Auto Show this year.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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Antti posted:

This sounds like a really flimsy explanation for what was almost certainly just a poorly thought out bit. Getting a work permit for Ben Collins should be absolutely trivial for a company like Amazon, if you even need one for the few weeks he would've needed it for.

Particularly since he's been over here in the US a lot this year, working. Ford had him on hand at the Focus RS drive to give us hot laps.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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That was not good. Liked the Vulcan bit but fast forwarded through a lot of the shooty bits and didn't even watch the last few minutes.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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Deteriorata posted:

That was probably a "dramatization" though. A Hellcat SRT is rated 13C/21H by the EPA, so Hammond was either doing lots of donuts off camera or they fudged it a bit.

Drive anything with 600+ hp and you get 6mpg in my experience. Technically it's possible to get more but if you floor it every time you see a tunnel (and you do) that's the result. When I had an FF for a few days the first tank of gas lasted 90 miles.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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iwentdoodie posted:

My old trans am was just south of 600 to the wheels. Highway I still got 25 or so.

In the city, I could do 13. If I was actually having fun and not short shifting every single gear? 6 or 7.

That's exactly my point. Technically you can get double digit efficiency, but if you only have a car like that to drive for a few days? Expect to get Hammond-level mpg.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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Data Graham posted:

Have they actually sold any of those things?

I've seen one in the garage of my parents' building.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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RillAkBea posted:

The GT 40 film was amazing. I've recently taken a more active interest in car racing heritage so this couldn't have come at a better time. Why can't companies today be quite so awesomely petty? :allears:

You mean like Ford going all out to win Le Mans this year (in GTE) with the new Ford GT 50 years after their first win?

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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InitialDave posted:

Yeah, it wasn't even funny, so no idea what they were doing there.

"It wasn't even funny" describes about 45 minutes of each show right now. I'm literally hate watching it at this point.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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Jay Kay was an arrogant twat the few times I met him in the 1990s, and he appears unchanged. I got the impression he really didn't like Matt Le Blanc.

And of course Hoy would be faster than him, the dude had an International B license and showed he was competent behind the wheel of an LMP2 car at speed.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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davebo posted:

I know it won't be one of the most exciting cars they review this season but I definitely saw James driving the Kia Stinger GT, and since I'm planning on getting one in the near future I'm excited to have a car I'll own actually be reviewed on Top Gear I mean Grand Tour.

You’ll be seeing a lot more of it in a couple of weeks as the US first drive happens soon.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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davebo posted:

If you get to drive one soon hit me up, I'll meet you anywhere. My local dealer still doesn't have an exact date when they'll get a US-spec one in, and I'm not going to Montgomery Mall to stare at a Korean one I can't sit in.

The event is in LA, sorry.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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Eat This Glob posted:

I just covered 1200 miles of interstate travel yesterday. Honestly, the cars weren't really all that bad. Elephant races loving infuriate me though and I dealt with so many of them.
I did see a someone driving a Dodge Demon in a (light) snowstorm. He passed me doing about 100 mph. That person is crazy in the best way and I hope to meet them before they die in a flaming wreck in about 63 hours or so

1200 miles in a day? I do hope you weren’t the only person driving that entire time.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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Residency Evil posted:

Yeah, I was wondering about this too: I wonder if Clarkson has a financial stake in how well this movie does?

He doesn’t. His mother made licensed Paddington toys, she didn’t create the character or write the books, that was Michael Bond.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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wilfredmerriweathr posted:

The "unscripted" Chevy suburban driver's joke was the best part of that episode but that was definitely an unmarked mesa county, co sheriff. He had the undercover suburban, the k9s and was wearing a sheriff dept T-shirt. I assume he either happened by or was present because they had a filming permit.

Seriously the best line yet though.

Also a quite visible rifle barrel poking up between the seats.

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drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
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Colostomy Bag posted:

Is this the last one of the of season?

As for the electronic parking brake some cars have incline sensors that will hold the car in position on a hill at a stoplight.

Some cars don’t even require you to be on a slope.

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