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mr_package
Jun 13, 2000

muckswirler posted:

I need the best string plugin. Which one is good? I'm not interested in 500 GB of samples though. Something that's relatively lightweight, with a few articulations and maybe some synthesis capability. I need it to sound good and be easy to program because I suck at keys.

This is a weird list of requirements-- you say you "need the best" but not many of the available strings libraries meet the rest of your conditions. You don't really say what kind of music/sounds are important-- how do you define "best"? Do you need solo strings, or sections? Why don't you want 500GB of samples if that's what it takes to sound the best?

Best sounding strings (subjective) is EW Hollywood Strings. Very large sample set-- I think over two hundred GB with all mics. Gold edition is just one mic and a good option (Hollywood Strings Gold and Hollywood Brass Gold make a pretty killer core setup in my opinion). LA Scoring Strings also very competetive in this arena in terms of sound/realism and is only ~18GB. 8Dio has just announced Adagio series but it's still preorder-- and that is only for violins. Cellos/Violas/Basses are further out. Symphobia2 is very popular and expensive just like the above three options. Cinesamples has some stuff you might like-- check out CineOrch, the Tutti and Low Chords might be to your liking even though they are full orch (not just strings). They sound very good, are easy to play (one note sounds whole chord so yeah) and only $150. Spitfire Solo Strings are reasonable price if you want solo strings. Audiobro also has LA Scoring Strings First Chair although strictly speaking these are first chair and not solo performances and were not designed as such. East West also still sells their older library, EWQLSO. Dated now but last week (NAMM sale) would have been 50% off. I got this cheap via their "Complete Composers Collection". VSL has a huge range-- solo strings, chamber strings, apassionista series etc. They have the biggest range of samples/articulations, and so becomes very expensive to get all of them. And of course K8 already includes some of the VSL strings, choirs, etc. so you could always use those.

Based on demos I think 8Dio's Adagio series is going to take the crown as 'best' strings library. HS has best sound, LASS has better playability (auto arranger and auto divisi is also fun/imspirational compositional tool), but it looks like 8Dio is going to have best legatos/realism/emotion. On the cheaper side there's Garritan, Kirk Hunter, and Miroslav. If you want to go synth/modeled route check out AAS String Studio. It's very cool although probably not what you're looking for.

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mr_package
Jun 13, 2000
I'd get HS Gold. It's $495 (or $695 for the bundle with HB) and will give you a good Hollywood sound out of the box. LASS is very cool but kind of specialized with its divisi stuff and if you're not serious about that aspect of it it's not going to be worth its $1000 price tag to you. Also LASS takes EQ and reverb work to sound "right" by most accounts and I agree. The Colin O'Malley demo ("She Was A Fair Lass") basically sold me on the product but I've yet to get something sounding as good as that, although it may just be my arranging skills. :-)

I don't like LASS FC + LASS Lite because the FC patches often have too much vibrato for my taste-- and LASS Lite, being full sections, includes those FC samples in the mix.

I think HS is in some ways a missed opportunity (not sure if the limitations I've run in to are in PLAY or in the programming) but I think these are the best sounding samples available. There are issues (some legato transitions are not as smooth as I would like-- crossfades too audible although loading up all the mics (Diamond Edition) mitigates these quite a bit) but in terms of sound quality of the recording/hall/mics/players/etc. they nailed that Hollywood sound 100%

But if you're not scoring to picture I might consider something like NI's Session Strings Pro although the demo sounds don't impress me that much. Or Albion, also not too expensive.

Also you often get the best sound by layering different libraries. It's tricky, easy to overdo things, but possible to smooth out the weaknesses in each as well. So you can always use that as an excuse to buy more. :-) And if you had an existing arrangement I'd be happy to run though both so you could compare and hear which works better for the style of music you're working with.

This is a bit of a derail so to contribute:

Softube is awesome. They had a 50% off sale last November that I missed, and am still kicking myself for it. Their TLA-100A is a "set and forget" compressor to me and as soon as I can get it for cheap it's mine.

Aether is a wicked reverb which I've not used (just listened to demos). Same story, on sale last year, almost bought it but just couldn't justify another verb. But for spacey FX it seems to be doing something pretty unique.

I really like Abbey Road's RS-124. It's weird and annoying to work with (gain structure is plain stupid but it's in the name of "realism"/"accuracy") but on the right material is really incredible.

mr_package
Jun 13, 2000
Only certain libraries support Kontakt Player. Basically the ones where a developer paid money to NI in order to support the free player. Since this is added cost to them it is usually only for libraries which are already bigger and more expensive. SoundIron has been doing something cool where it lets users choose a "Player Edition" of some of their existing libraries for a small extra cost.

http://www.soundiron.com/instruments/pianos/emotional-piano-player-edition/
http://www.soundiron.com/instruments/choirs/requiem-light-player-edition/

But they're still the exception, not the norm.

For $99 you could get UVI String Machines, they're more on the synth side and that youtube sounds like it's a sample-based but if you like that type of sound it might work for you.

mr_package
Jun 13, 2000
Samplemodeling: http://www.samplemodeling.com/en/products_trombone.php

edit: you want solo or sections? Jazzy or orchestral?

Broadway Lites (or Broadway Big Band) is another choice, but it's expensive. Best price to get it right now is from bestservice.de and use one of their coupons ($30 eur off $100 eur / $100 eur off $500 eur)

Cinesamples Cinebrass Core/Pro maybe? They're $400 each though. http://cinesamples.com/products/cinebrass/

mr_package fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Jul 31, 2012

mr_package
Jun 13, 2000
EW is 50% as well. Hollywood Strings / Brass included.

Both 8Dio and Soundiron doing great sales also.

mr_package
Jun 13, 2000
Soundiron Apocalypse Percussion Ensemble.

Others: 8Dio Epic Taiko (they make a solo taiko too). Cinesamples just released a huge perc library, Spitfire has an excellent one as well.

mr_package
Jun 13, 2000

renderful posted:

Both 8Dio and Sound Iron are great companies. I believe they used to be the same company, and then split into those two. I've got sample packs from the first incarnation and they're well organized and perfectly recorded.

Tonehammer. I was sad when they dissolved but actually they've released so much new and better stuff as two companies it's been a good thing for all.

Kontakt is the single best VST I ever bought just because it allows me to use so many cool sample libraries like the ones these guys put out.

Embertone is another great small vendor, just a few instruments now but their solo trumpet is amazing ($30! wtf!?) and their violin demo sounds the best I've heard.
https://soundcloud.com/embertone/embertone-solo-violin

mr_package
Jun 13, 2000

NC Wyeth Death Cult posted:

EastWest is having a holiday sale- 50% off
http://www.soundsonline.com/Holiday-Promotion

Does anyone have Hollywood strings/brass and can weigh in on whether it's worth it (it comes to $600 for both)? I had really good luck with their Symphonic Orchestra Silver but costwise this is another ballpark. It's for big dumb symphonic pieces and the occasional Bartok/Glass ripoff.

I have both HS and HB. They are good, definitely have that "Hollywood" sound. But there are plenty of excellent competitors in the orchestral world. Depending on how serious you are about divisi writing or insisting that your violas and violins be written separately you might be better off with something like Spitfire Albion I and/or II, which uses shared sections, e.g. "Strings High" and "Strings Low".

There are some other interesting strings libraries such as 8Dio's Adagio series.

Cinematic Strings 2 is another good one-- I don't have it but very popular for excellent sound and ease-of-use/workflow.

Also the sys reqs for HS are pretty high-- you really want to load the samples off an SSD and have a lot of RAM (I would say 8GB absolute bare minimum). For $600 I'd grab them, unless that's your entire budget. I mean, LASS is $1000, doesn't sound as good (but does offer other advantages) so ~$300 for HS is a steal. But "pro" orch libraries are expensive so once you step into that world you kind of develop a different perspective on pricing. :-)

mr_package
Jun 13, 2000
Spitfire Audio does the same thing-- if you buy v 1.0 of any of their libraries it's effectively a beta because you know that 1.1 is coming in ~1 month. This is actually to your advantage because you get to email them and complain about stuff and then that's what goes into the 1.1 and 1.2 updates, as well as the discounts (typically a 30% off coupon for future purchase).

I have no problem doing this but as the poster above notes related to U-he it's only for companies with a good track record for putting out excellent product and listening to customer feedback.

I've been rolling over Spitfire discount coupons for a year now. Every time they come out with a new product I buy it early and use the coupon code from the last one for further discount. :-)

Now here's a deal: $15 for Tronto analog synth. Today's the last day: http://www.vstbuzz.com/

Note: VCO is included with Tronto but is actually available for free as an Easter promotion on KVR: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=378151

I bought this and it's one of the best values I've got for $15 in a while.

mr_package
Jun 13, 2000
For guitar samples check out Shreddage II by Impact Soundworks.

mr_package
Jun 13, 2000

Quincy Smallvoice posted:

Looks like its an application to migrate from their web based service. Like UAD I guess?

Waves license manager is very similar as well.

mr_package
Jun 13, 2000
I recently discovered Tronsonic and think they make some very very cool Kontakt based synths. Not too expensive and very flexible, using samples for sound sources as part of a larger synth. See the system 1000m for example http://www.tronsonic.com/system1000m/

mr_package
Jun 13, 2000
There's a free Reaktor module that does ssaw emu also. http://alex-shore.com/jp-4c/

mr_package
Jun 13, 2000

BKPR posted:

I need some awful choir sounds. The cheesiest poo poo possible, while being recognizable as an attempt at a human voice. Any plugins/samples you guys can recommend?

A bit late but UVI Mello is good for 'bad' choir. It's occasionally given away for free e.g. buy one of their other products get Mello free.
http://www.uvi.net/en/vintage-corner/mello.html

INIL Choir might be what you need also:
http://www.hollowsun.com/HS2/products/inil/
http://www.sampletekk.com/proddetail.php?prod=STDELIVER-038-FORMAT

Sonic Couture released a crowd-sourced choir as well:
http://www.soniccouture.com/en/products/28-rare-and-experimental/g38-crowdchoir/

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mr_package
Jun 13, 2000

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

Motherfucker, WHY didn't I check this thread last week?! :argh: :negative:

It's given away for free all the time. Well, 2 times a year or so. Keep an eye on kvr deals thread and/or sign up to JRR Shop / AudioDeleuxe newsletters. And UVI newsletter too maybe. It will be announced in one of those! :-)

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