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Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


You guys and your off the shelf controllers... I built one based on CapnBry's design earlier in the year, but have only had my smoker out once this year so far. Need to remedy that.

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Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


Nosthula posted:

Do you have a link or instructions for building this? My dad is building his own smoker and I would love to complement it with a homemade controller.

Edit: Some quick googling and I found it.

https://github.com/CapnBry/HeaterMeter/wiki/Heatermeter-hardware

This thread will be very helpful to you if you decide to take the plunge.

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


AxeBreaker posted:

Those homemade power controllers look like they have some nice features, but they don't seem to be any cheaper than the cheapest commercial ones. Of course they have as many features as the really expensive models (CyberQ, Stoker) by man is that a lot of effort to get there.

I suppose it depends on if you're a DIY kinda guy.

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


So I smoked a nearly 11lb butt this weekend, my first attempt. Two days prior, I applied yellow mustard and a liberal application of rub and wrapped it up in plastic wrap.

It turned out great, but it didn't have any bark on it, nor was it black when I foiled it (at like 150F, it stalled for a long time and I was worried). It just looked like a big brown chunk of pork.

I smoked it at 225F, and it took 11 hours to get to 200F. I sprayed rum and apple juice on it every hour or two for the first 3-4 hours until I foiled it.

What am I doing wrong? Should I have applied more rub prior to cooking? I'm thinking the lack of rub (which did have sugar in it) is the reason why I didn't end up with much in the way of bark.

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


TECHNICAL Thug posted:

I think spraying the butt every hour, especially early in the cook, causes the cooking time to increase, which may be why you were stuck in a plateau at 150 for so long. The amazingribs.com guy suggests not spraying butts but instead adding some apple juice or similar when you foil it. this link should help you out a lot.

Good tips, thanks guys! I'm not sure what's next on the smoking agenda, but it probably won't be another butt since I've got a lot of frozen pulled pork to eat. :)

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


McSpankWich posted:

Smoked a shoulder over memorial day weekend. It ruled. Question though, most places I read say to put the smoke wood in with the meat intially and then never replenish it. Other sources say to toss more wood on as soon as the visible white smoke stops pouring out. Which is it? Intial only or keep tossing it on?

Only the first 3 hours or so really matter as far as smoke goes.

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


BraveUlysses posted:

Ok, ill give it another try next time I make some shoulder.

Ill do one unmopped and one mopped...any suggestions for mop liquid and procedure?

1/3rd rum, 2/3rds apple juice?

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


coyo7e posted:

Found this fella on craigslist for :10bux:, works like a charm. :D




Now I have an incentive to deal with that cherry tree I've been meaning to bring down..

Get some grill paint on that poo poo, it'll dress right up.

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


GigaFool posted:

I've never owned a WSM, but I know they're pretty much the best charcoal smoker you can buy for the price. You can't go wrong with one. I debated purchasing one but settled on the electric because I'm busy enough as it is, so the consistency and ability to run unattended overnight is a big plus for me. I've owned it ~2 months and already smoked more stuff than I did all of last summer on a Weber Smokenator.

For the record, if you use the "minion method", a WSM can handle an overnight smoke with no intervention easily. I built a HeaterMeter for mine, and it's insanely temperature stable if you load it up and leave it a lone.

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


Stringent posted:

Alternatively, I just use the base of my 18" wsm as a grill.

I have the little metal clips so I can do this as well, but you have to be careful about how much charcoal you put in the thing or it turns into a blast furnace because the grate sits directly on the fire ring.

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


GigaFool posted:

I don't doubt it. I thought about building one of those just to monitor/graph the meat temps in my electric (for later reference and planning ahead), but I have this feeling there will eventually be some sort of network-ready thermometer on the market. At least I'm hoping, because I'm not the best at soldering.

Well, the HeaterMeter is a very fun project if you are a tinkerer. You don't have to be a great solderer as it's all hole-through stuff. Worth a shot if you've got the time. CapnBry is working on building a new "shield" version that will hook onto a RaspberryPi too which should simplify things.. hopefully.

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


Canuckistan posted:

Which Maverick probes are you using? The wiki is a little unclear on which one to use. Since you're using wired probes did you bother putting in the radio receiver for the wireless probe?

I didn't bother doing the wireless board since I didn't really see the point. My router is going to be right there, why bother with more expensive probes and crap.

I'm using the High Heat ET73 probes. So far, so good.

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


Canuckistan posted:

Here's a forum with people talking about it:

http://tvwbb.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/5561094836

Actual home page:

https://github.com/CapnBry/HeaterMeter/wiki/An-Introduction-to-LinkMeter---HeaterMeter


Are you using the HH probe for both your food and the pit? Also how many probes can the LM handle? I'm thinking you'd want three - two meat and one pit.

By design the HM board has 4 probes. I didn't really have room / didn't see a need for 4 so I only wired mine up for 3. While they make "straight" pit probe type probes, I just use one of the ET73's stuck through a clothes pin I drilled a hole in, clipped to the top grill.

Most of the time I'm either doing ribs, or chicken and only care about the pit probe, or I'm doing one to two butts, so I figured 3 is plenty.

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


When you're ordering parts, keep in mind you can skip a bunch of them if you're not going to use wireless probes, or if you're not going to use the board standalone (without a router).

Also, the button board is sort of useless in my opinion, so that's even more stuff you can skip. The button board doesn't let you do anything you can't do in the web interface..

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


LTBS posted:

Are there any suggestions for a temp controller for a WSM that can be seen over the internet or has alerts/wifi?

I've seen the CyberQ and it can send alerts, but I'm trying to find something that I could watch from work while it's smoking at home, so I don't have to wait until the weekend for a brisket or a shoulder or something.

Have you considered making a HeaterMeter?

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


CapnBry posted:

drat right, HeaterMeter for Life!

Indeed, I love mine.

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


Niagalack posted:

What is the HeaterMeter used for? Is it reliable? Worth making one? I mostly smoke on my propane/coal bbq where I set my stuff and use a wifi probe that gives me the meat temperature.

A HeaterMeter isn't going to be of any use to someone using a propane bbq, other than it being a cheaper way to monitor your cook progress remotely than some of the other products out there.

It's primarily used as a sort of PID controller to stoke fires to maintain a precise temperature on WSM/BGEs, etc.

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


davey4283 posted:

I don't use any of the linksys temp control stuff found in this thread and my stuff turns out great. I think that shits all pretty lame imo. To me, smoking is supposed to be pretty simple: Fire, Wood, Smoke, Meat.

What's pretty lame is losing meat on overnight smokes because your fire goes out and you don't know about it, or dry butts because of temperature instability, etc.

The "lame poo poo" you speak of makes smoking even more fun than it normally is, because you can geek out AND end up with amazing meat every time. Not having to get out of bed to check on poo poo at 4 am is pretty much the best.

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


Choadmaster posted:

Sounds good. Where do I stick the probe in a rack of babybacks? What temp should I be looking for?

IMO, you don't. I've never had any issues with 2-2-1, checking for them to start pulling back and doing the rest by touch.

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


GroovinPickle posted:

What's the best strategy for keeping pulled pork warm before serving? I'm planning to supply a tailgate Saturday afternoon, so I figure I'll smoke overnight on Friday and take the meat off Saturday morning. I can foil it and hold it in a cooler, but sooner or later I'll have to pull it. Should I just pull it and then heat in an oven at ~225 for 20 minutes, then load the pulled meat into a cooler?

You're not trying to cook it after it's pulled, so I'd foil over whatever you pulled it into, and stick that in the oven at a lower temperature to hold it (~170F).

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


GigaFool posted:

Yep. Pull it when it's still warm, and cover it to reheat. Pulled pork is fine at room temperature anyway, so I wouldn't worry about getting it too hot. If you can save the drippings (I use a drip pan for this purpose in my MES40), adding them back to the pork after you pull it will enhance the flavor and keep it moist.

Yeah, I think you need to be more concerned about it getting too cold if you're leaving it at room temperature (food safety!)

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


Digital_Jesus posted:

Buy yourself the aftermarket steel door. It will change your life.

http://cajunbandit.com/

I've been wanting one of those for my 18", but $16 shipping on a $22 door makes me nerdrage.

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


I was having difficulty finding hardwoods for smoking locally, so a while back I ended up ordering a couple of the bulk grilling chunks from http://www.mainegrillingwoods.com/. At the time there was free shipping and it ended up being pretty reasonable all things considered.

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


dms666 posted:

Does anyone have a working link to the plans for the temperature probe/controller made from a router? I was looking around and the original seems to be down. I just got a new modem from the cable company today which has built in wireless, so I now have a WRT54G with no use.

https://github.com/CapnBry/HeaterMeter

It should be known however, that while building a WRT based Heatermeter will indeed work, development on the software side of things has ended on the 3.x series. The new heatermeter 4.0 based off the Raspberry Pi is way faster and more capable, so that's where CapnBry is focusing his efforts.

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


Cuahtemoc posted:

Bear Grills (http://www.bear-grills.com.au/) have one similar to mine but apparently better quality for $750 + delivery

There is a great joke about drinking piss in here somewhere, but my coffee has not kicked in.

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


taqueso posted:

Should probably spend a little of that rib money on a thermometer.

But not for cooking ribs, of course.

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


LTBS posted:

Are there any controllers (prebuilt) that have WiFi and are under $300?

how tough is heatermeter to get working?

The Heatermeter based off the Raspberry Pi is not difficult at all to build or get running, if you don't have flippers for hands, own a soldering iron, and can read.

I have built 2 now, and it's been one of my favorite projects.



Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


CHiMPY posted:

That looks really good, I have a Pi on the way but looking into buying all the components to make up the heatermeter is rather costly given that I live in australia.
Both the sites want to charge me more for shipping than for the total of the parts.

I've never shipped anything to Australia before, would it be cheaper to have the parts shipped to someone in the US, repackaged and shipped onward?

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


Flaggy posted:

Smoking a brisket on my new smoker today, and had a flair up. Using applewood and it burned a bit of it, I assume no problem in just slicing it off once its out of the smoker? Would it be more prudent to but a layer of foil down next time? I am pretty new at smoking so been reading and planning for a while.

What kind of smoker are you using that a "flare up" toasted your brisket that bad?

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


Pikey posted:

Does anybody have tips for making beef jerky in a smoker? I've got a electric bullet that I've smoked ribs and pork shoulder in, and attempted brisket. I've got a couple of jerky marinades in some cookbooks that I wanted to try out. Any specific things to do other than let them marinade for a while and make sure to slice the beef with the grain?

Yes, put it in a dehydrator.

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


Parlett316 posted:

Went to Wegmans, what a loving nightmare, full of loving humanoids, got a pork shoulder. 7 and a half pounds. Put a thin layer of mustard on it and some rub. I think it was grill masters. I'll experiment later with home made rubs and sauce eventually, I just have to pop the cherry of this smoker now! It's saranwrapped up and chillin in the fridge. Going on the smoker first thing tomorrow morning.

Keep the charcoals burning, add apple wood every so often, try to keep smoker temp at 225 and get thickest part of the pork at 185-190.

Is spraying the meat every so often necessary? I have apple cider VINEGAR in case. But should I have apple cider? Agh, once again with the paralysis by analysis. SMOKE. SMOKE.

SMOKE.

Try rum + apple juice.

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


VERTiG0 posted:

Made some armadillo eggs yesterday and did them on the ol' 22.5" Weber OTS, took about 2 hours at between 225-250. Goddamn these things are awesome. They were a big hit with my buddies.

I hadn't heard of those but I normally do ABTs (with lil smokies) when I fire up the smoker. I'll have to try armadillo eggs next time!

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


cornface posted:

But he wants to be able to run it hotter, not cooler.

Maybe instead of cutting it you can just drill a small hole on the body near the door and string a piece of wire between the hole and the door latch?

He could also just rig up a blower to stoke that thing rather than hacking it to bits.

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


VERTiG0 posted:

Like the PartyQ from BBQ Guru, they're $130: http://store.thebbqguru.com/weborderentry/Party%20Q

Or, the HeaterMeter that a few of us have built (which kicks the WiFi Stoker's rear end.) :)

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


sellouts posted:

welp, project time. Did you grab a case from one of the TVWBB guys?

Yup, I think I posted some pics of it a few pages back. The 4.0 build is a really fun project.

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


niss posted:

Have the instructions been updated recently. I really want to build one, but every time I have looked at the instructions or parts lists its just hella confusing to me.

Check out tvwbb.com, there's a forum there dedicated to the HeaterMeter builds where you can find answers for pretty much anything.

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


cornface posted:

Get two garbage bags. Put one inside the other. Empty the charcoal ring and ashes into the garbage bags. Pour the water pan remnants over ashes.

Now you can throw your disgusting old meat drippings into the trash instead of hiding them behind the garage.

edit: hopefully this doesn't need to be said, but don't do this with hot ashes.

What I typically do is let my water pan sit in the smoker overnight after a smoke, and in the morning when all the fat and nasty stuff is congealed, I use a wire "spider" to fish out all the fat and grossness. That goes into the trash, and the rest goes down the drain.

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


dalstrs posted:

Beef ribs are the manliest thing you can smoke. I think they are a lot harder to make tender than pork ribs are.

I thought making your own bacon was the manliest thing you can do with a smoker?!

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon



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Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


Flaggy posted:

This is a beautiful sight.

It's not mine sadly, but I have been reading up on makin' bacon. I just need to find a decent butcher in the area that can sell me a slab of pork belly at non crazy prices. I've seen it periodically at Whole Foods and Wegmans but the price per lb is obscene.

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