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bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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Dickeye posted:

The other thing I like about Manhattan Projects is the use of solid red for things that have negative things attached to them (The Oppenheimers, the chair/belt/stick in Feynman's flashback, etc). It's just this really quick and easy way to know THIS IS BAD

REALLY BAD

Secret's "one color at a time" thing is unique as all hell and I'd love for more to come out so I could talk more about it.

I'm more than a little confused by that flashback, because didn't Weiss say something about how he preferred the stick after he went through the gate?

I thought it was very obviously Feynman until that part. :-/

# ¿ Jul 28, 2012 02:25

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# ¿ May 13, 2024 22:25

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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Dickeye posted:

Well we don't see him choose, and neither choice is really a good one. Dude's still getting beaten, it's just degrees of shittiness.

It's definitely Feynman in that flashback though, the face is literally just a smaller version of adult Feynman's head.

I guess what I was trying to say is that it's not really clear that Feynman is the narrator as Weiss is all over the page and the one making decisions.

The flashback seemed obvious that it was Feynman, until I had him narrating later at a spot where it didn't really seem to make sense. I keep forgetting that our narration seems to all come from him

# ¿ Jul 28, 2012 03:37

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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more Greg Land-y.

Six AM posted:

MP is a great book, but that art is doing everything possible to bring it down a bit. I do like that Hickman is standing behind his boy, though. That is really cool in what sounds like a shameless rear end industry if you pay too much attention to the big two, especially DC.

Funny thing is that I didn't like the art much at first, but I'm really starting to dig it now. Pitarra feels kinda like a dirtier version of Quitely, which seems to fit really well.

And DC does seem pretty shameless, but then I remind myself that Len Wein gets more for money for film appearances of Lucius Fox than he does for Wolverine, both of which he created/co-created.

That's not meant to make DC look better, just a reminder of one of the many ways that Marvel sucks too.

bairfanx fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Jul 28, 2012

# ¿ Jul 28, 2012 16:29

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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Shageletic posted:

Really? I read a few pages at the store. I thought it wasn't worth getting. There's nothing worse than someone spouting supposed "wisdom" when they aren't really making any interesting points. It seems to be a fetishization of these amazing kids and the interesting things they're trying to teach...and all I could do was shake my head. It doesn't strike as smart writing in the least.

EDIT: The art for MP is a HUGE part of its high quality. Quitely is a great comparison. There is a level of ingenuity and uniqueness with the character design (ex: Von Braun's robot arm) and background stuff that is just fantastic.

I mean, it's going to depend on your taste, but if you like comics like The Invisibles, Wild Children is exploring ideas along those veins. I can't know what pages you read and I could see how it would seem like someone just throwing out a bunch of counterculture ideas, but it didn't really feel that way as I read it. At the same time, at least part of my appreciation for it comes from just how dense with ideas it is, so...

# ¿ Jul 29, 2012 07:18

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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Shageletic posted:

Fair enough. People can like different things. But there is a difference between the Invisibles, which plays with your expectations in striking and new ways, and a comic that has "genius" characters going on page long monologues about how they're blowing your mind (without actually saying anything of substance).

I do like that, over the course of two sentences, you go from "taste, man" to "that thing you like is unoriginal and devoid of substance."

Dragonshirt posted:

So I picked up the entire new run of Prophet. The first few issues were spectacular, then the art became really bad and the story is kind of losing me (but I'm afraid that may just be a side effect of the lovely anime-lite art). Does anyone know if Graham plans on assuming the art duties again any time soon?

Graham has only done art on one issue of Prophet. And I feel like it may very well be the "anime-lite" art you're disliking (it was the one with the robot, issue 26, I think?), though that could also be Giannis Milonogiannis, whose style is something of a mix of European and Japanese, with obvious influence by Akira.

The artist on the first 3 issues is Simon Roy, but unless I'm mistaken, there will continue to be a rotation of artists until everything is done.

bairfanx fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Aug 1, 2012

# ¿ Aug 1, 2012 16:26

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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Dragonshirt posted:

I just checked since I have the issues in front of me. Roy and Graham are awesome, Milonogiannis is the guy that I'm really not a fan of. I'm not sure where you got the idea that I thought Graham was lovely, since I specifically hoped he came back on art duties in my original post. I got a little mixed up on which issue he did, but I remembered enjoying it.

The way your post was worded, I couldn't tell if you were hoping or dreading he would come back.

There was also another artist in there, Farel Dalrymple, who did the 4th issue.

I kind of get not digging Milonogiannis' style, but mostly just because it doesn't really mesh with the rest too well. I personally do enjoy it, though I had a harder time with Old City Blues.

# ¿ Aug 2, 2012 06:12

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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Darth Nat posted:

So it's sounding like my beloved Glory is not long for this world--apparently the price is being increased to $4 because otherwise it'd have to end prematurely. And Joe Keatinge seems to be implying on Twitter that it's going to end soon regardless.

Everyone that likes offbeat takes on superheroines should check it out, since the first (only?) collection comes out next month. It's criminal that crappy stories with crappy artwork put out by DC or Marvel sell ten times more than this book.

I wish I could say I was surprised, but while there are some really interesting things going on in Glory, the art is inconsistent (when it is good, it's great, but when it isn't, it feels really distracting) and the story seems to meander around quite a bit. It's fun and I will miss it, but it's far from perfect, and its cancellation isn't solely due to the market and comics readers.

bairfanx fucked around with this message at 07:28 on Aug 8, 2012

# ¿ Aug 8, 2012 07:25

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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more Greg Land-y.

Waterhaul posted:

Man I wouldn't call the art on Glory inconsistent at all. If anything I'd say it's just becoming more confident as the book progresses.

I think the main thing Glory has going against it is the comparison to Prophet and them being lumped together in the "relaunch".

I've got a busy couple of days ahead of me, but I'll see if I can find some images to show you what I'm talking about. I really enjoy Campbell's style a lot, but there really seem to be pages that he puts more effort into drawing than others.

And the comparison to Prophet hurts it immensely. I was going to mention something about how it doesn't stack up to Prophet, but then realized just how unfair that is, as they really shouldn't have to be compared.

# ¿ Aug 8, 2012 13:29

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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feedmyleg posted:

Okay, I have to admit I'm a newcomer when it comes to indie comics, but does Dynamite count here? Because I have to say, I am really loving loving the first two issues of The Shadow.

If it's not Marvel or DC and doesn't have another thread (because I don't know if I'd toss Vertigo in with DC or not), it goes here. So yeah, Dynamite is good here.

What is it you like about The Shadow? I'm a bit curious, as I've always dug the idea of the character, but my only real exposure was the movie.

# ¿ Aug 14, 2012 07:38

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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al-azad posted:

I haven't read anything by Mark Waid except Kingdom Come but Rocketeer: Cargo of Doom was horribly boring. The pacing was all over the place and felt like a two issue story compressed in a single volume. Good art, terrible writing.

Man, and I was pleasantly surprised by it. I do agree that it feels fast-paced, but I prefer that to having to wait six issues to find out who our cast is.

I can't believe there's a poster on here who isn't reading Waid's Daredevil.

# ¿ Aug 23, 2012 04:57

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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more Greg Land-y.

Independent books almost never have ads actually in the middle of the books. Those that have ads at all, they generally have ads for other products from the same company.

Don't ask how they can afford to do it, because it's clear that they can. Instead ask how Marvel or DC, who sell 10-100x the numbers of most indie books, can justify treating people like poo poo the way they do AND still have ads in their books.

# ¿ Oct 12, 2012 04:54

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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more Greg Land-y.

I just read LP by Curt Pires and Ramon Villalobos. It's probably the best single issue of anything I've read in some time. Fun, fast-paced story, beautiful art.

# ¿ Oct 21, 2012 05:43

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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more Greg Land-y.

Multiple Warheads is the comic I'm going to point to as a giant "gently caress you" to the Big 2 way of doing things, if only because it's 48 loving pages for $4. There's so much more going on there, but that alone, holy poo poo.

# ¿ Nov 5, 2012 04:03

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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more Greg Land-y.

For more Warheads love, Image announced that the first issue is getting a second printing.

Incredibly pleased they took a quote from my review at Comics Bulletin too. I really think Warheads is one of the best, most fun books on the stands and is easily a great deal for your money.

# ¿ Nov 14, 2012 07:33

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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more Greg Land-y.

bgaesop posted:

No, it's not, that's my point. The guy working at my local comic shop told me that, and he was apparently crazy bonkers. So I went into the story expecting realism and got a sentient emotion-powered god pyramid.

Yeah, I think most of us are more surprised that you believed him, especially considering all the weird poo poo Jodorowsky has done. Live and learn, I guess? If nothing else, the art is amazing.

Though, if you don't want it, I would more than happily take it off of your hands...

# ¿ Nov 15, 2012 04:53

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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bgaesop posted:

It was literally the first of his stories I'd read. And sorry, I gave it away when I moved

I really shouldn't assume other people have friends who tell them that El Topo is something that you need to see. That's all I needed to know to be convinced that anything Jodorowsky does is just completely batshit.

# ¿ Nov 15, 2012 06:14

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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Gavok posted:

Glad I jumped the gently caress off of that series some time ago

# ¿ Nov 16, 2012 01:20

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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Hollis posted:

I keep seeing Glory mentioned here on the forums and was just wondering a good place to start, also whats the appeal? Isn't she the sister of Supreme?

Start with the current run, read until it's done if you like it (I think we've got a couple of issues left).

Joe Keatinge and Ross Campbell give you what could be the best Wonder Woman story on the stands if Azz weren't doing so drat well on the real book.

Ignore everything you know about Extreme, you won't need it. Also, read Prophet.

# ¿ Nov 26, 2012 16:31

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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more Greg Land-y.

Darth Nat posted:

Glory is probably about what you'd get if DC put out a mature readers Wonder Woman title. And it's got wonderful Ross Campbell art. If there's one advantage it has over the Wonder Woman title, it's that the art is way more consistent and I think necessary to the book's tone.

Agreed. There's a pretty high level of violence, but it's actually warranted and is there since the start of the new run.

# ¿ Nov 26, 2012 20:25

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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more Greg Land-y.

Well, if this isn't depressing as poo poo and a good reason to encourage others to read indie books you love:
http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/11/30/skullkickers-writer-jim-zubkavich-financial-creator-owned-comics/

# ¿ Dec 2, 2012 01:56

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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more Greg Land-y.

Ominous Jazz posted:

Is anybody reading Bedlam? I gave it a go just on the cover last month and really dug it as a one off.
And then there's another this month and man did it not hold up.

You know, that first issue was really hosed up and great, but yeah, the second one was a bit of a disappointment. I'll stick around because I like Rossmo, but I was not too happy.

al-azad posted:

If I was doing digital comics I would make my own reading app so I could keep that extra buck-fifty but the sad thing is that customers are apprehensive towards other subscription services.

Honestly, I think they are apprehensive because of convenience more than anything else.

bairfanx fucked around with this message at 08:21 on Dec 2, 2012

# ¿ Dec 2, 2012 08:19

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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Crisco Kid posted:

So I�ve been tasked with creating a non-mainstream buying list,

Pascal Girard's Bigfoot is quite good (though his Reunion book I'm not a fan of).
Liz Prince does great autobio comics, as does Jeffrey Brown. Mostly relationship stuff, but they are some of the best at it.
Lilli Carre has a really unique style and her books like Woodsman Pete are pretty fun.
Paul Hornschemeier and Anders Nilsen are both pretty great too?

God, there's so many, but I would recommend looking around at Fantagraphics and Top Shelf, as both of them should have plenty of books that are not too horribly difficult to get a hold of.

# ¿ Dec 3, 2012 02:55

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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Shageletic posted:

Read the first three issues of James Stockoe's (sp?) Godzilla: The Half-Century War.

Jesus its good. The art is mind-bendingly amazing and everything else is pretty top notch as well. Get it.

This is pretty much the rule for Stokoe, I think.

Anyone know, are we delayed on issue 4? It feels like it's been a while

# ¿ Dec 6, 2012 06:26

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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Adam Strange posted:

I have no idea about release dates but I was listening to Inkstuds on the radio like 2 weeks ago because Brandon Graham was on and James Stokoe's wife (who is also a cartoonist) was there too. She said he was in "lockdown" or something to that effect so it looks like he's hard at work.

Speaking of Stokoe, have you guys seen how this cat draws? It might be the best/most hosed up thing ever.

It doesn't look as strange there, considering that he's just got a pencil (pen?).

I think there's a picture floating around of how he grips a Sharpie that makes his hand look like a deformed claw.

# ¿ Dec 6, 2012 16:58

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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Crisco Kid posted:

Thanks guys, I'm compiling the list now!

re: Stokoe's janky wizard hand:

Wait, does he have Spider-Nam prints??

# ¿ Dec 7, 2012 00:08

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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more Greg Land-y.

Darth Nat posted:

There's a big interview over at ComicsAlliance with Joe Keatinge and Ross Campbell about the end of Glory, including the description of an absolutely insane aborted story arc about Glory owning a cow farm.

Wow. Ross Campbell thinks he only made about $2000 in 2010. Wet Moon is so good too

# ¿ Dec 13, 2012 16:56

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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Dickeye posted:

Then it's a particularly horrible one, because the line is literally "W-2 (the black rapper character) is a nn...rear end in a top hat."

Yeah, did you not get what was going on there? Because it seemed pretty clear to me exactly why it was said. No attempt at Morrison's "tt" or "hh" or whatever, just labeling the creepy old white dude as a racist.

# ¿ Dec 17, 2012 00:53

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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RandallODim posted:

This was my first exposure to Brandon Graham, and it has definitely ensured I'm grabbing the King City trade I saw at my university town's local shop when I get back from winter break. Is enjoying Multiple Warheads more or less indicative that I'll enjoy the rest of his work?

Pretty much? Prophet isn't in the same vein at all, really. It's much less humorous, but I think most people love it.

After King City, you've got books like Escalator and some of his porn comics (some of which are hard to find, though he was talking with Image about reprinting them), and then he's got scattered things here and there (like an 8 page story in DHP).

He also has an art/sketchbook coming out next year called Walrus.

# ¿ Dec 19, 2012 02:08

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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Did Prophet drop this week? Image's site says 1/2, but I remember Graham saying that they were coming out alongside Warheads as a happy coincidence. I ask because it wasn't in my pulls and I didn't see it at the shop, but I clearly have Warheads in hand and thought I read some folks complaining on the Twitter about resolution issues with Prophet.

# ¿ Dec 23, 2012 03:18

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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Mr Wind Up Bird posted:

Today is the end of American Elf

End of an era.

Truly. Part of me is really hoping we get one tomorrow after he realizes he could never really give it up, but I don't think it's going to happen.

# ¿ Jan 1, 2013 01:15

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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LtKenFrankenstein posted:

Man, between Godzilla: Half Century War, Multiple Warheads and Fatale, this is the best new-comics-day I've had in a while.

HCW in particular continues to make me do fistpumps every two or three pages like I'm eleven goddamn years old.

Multiple Warheads? I thought we just got Prophet today?

# ¿ Jan 2, 2013 20:55

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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Teenage Fansub posted:

Anyone know why Godzilla HCW doesn't shown up in Comixology here in New Zealand? Is it the same in every region outside America?
I got issue 1 when it was new, and it's in my 'My Comics', but there's no series page anymore. I assumed it had been massively delayed, but apparently comics have been coming out and my country has been gated from 'em.

Also, buy Manhattan Projects.

If you didn't find any Godzilla comics, I would guess that there's a rights issue in NZ?

# ¿ Jan 4, 2013 16:38

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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more Greg Land-y.

So, I haven't been to the shop yet, but did Infinite Vacation actually come out today? Is that series finished, finally?

# ¿ Jan 10, 2013 00:07

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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Finally picked up that last issue of Infinite Vacation. It feels a bit like Spencer had to check off some plot points rather quickly, but I was still really happy with how it ended.

# ¿ Jan 21, 2013 00:47

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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Shageletic posted:

So anyone else reading Nowhere Men? A dense book about rock star scientists that leaves me with NO IDEA where its going. But its fun and different and written well and definitely worth a read. As of the third issue, things just took a crazy, out of nowhere (hah hah) turn.

I can't remember if I've read the second issue or not yet, but I really dug the first one. Really hated the bizarre internet reactions to it, but loved Stephenson's response to it, so it balanced out.

# ¿ Jan 31, 2013 17:40

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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Endless Mike posted:

That pear bit towards the end was something.

I couldn't stop laughing.

# ¿ Feb 8, 2013 00:12

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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LooksLikeABabyRat posted:

I started a pull at my local comic store just because I got turned onto Saga early. It's really great. I'm also getting the new Prophet and Manhattan Projects. Anybody have any other ongoing "must haves" I should look into? It's surprisingly hard to find good recommendations on the web.

For reference: I've read all of Y the Last Man, Walking Dead, I'm almost current with Chew, and I read all of DMZ last year.

If you like Manhattan Projects, Hickman's East of West is coming out soon. I'm a fan of Change by Ales Kot, but it's just got 1 issue left. The Unwritten is pretty awesome too (Vertigo, so I don't know if that's indie enough for you). I feel like there are glaringly obvious things I'm missing that you might like based on that list. Nowhere Men seems pretty rad so far.

# ¿ Feb 21, 2013 06:02

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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Waterhaul posted:

That's a shame. Maybe Morrison's next creator owned work will be worth it.

Yeah, I didn't give Happy anything beyond a single issue. I don't think I've read anything Morrison has done that disappointed me as much as that first issue.

# ¿ Feb 25, 2013 18:01

bairfanx: Jan 20, 2006; I look like this IRL,
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Mimir posted:

Disney owns Star Wars now, and is presumably planning revert the comics rights to Marvel.

Pretty sure Dark Horse has something like 2 years left with the license. Maybe 18 months now?

# ¿ Apr 30, 2013 15:15

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# ¿ May 13, 2024 22:25

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Kull the Conqueror posted:

Brian Wood's Conan the Barbarian is the book I anticipate the most every month. Every artist and every story has been a home run except for maybe one. Conan and Belit have one of the most emotionally potent romances I've ever read in a comic; it's chock full of passion, guilt, violence, bliss, and sorrow. The two are written eloquently as equals who challenge one another, and the power of their relationship sends ripples through the societies they encounter; a freaking war starts because they have a falling out. They're just that badass.

The latest issue is a highlight, with their decision to take some crazy hallucinogenic drug and go on this psychedelically-infused quest together. Conan talks to a Bear God. Seriously, everyone should read this book.

Yeah, one of the things I flat out love about the new Conan series is that so many die hard Conan fans loathe it for not being REH's misogynistic gore fest. Have been a fan of the series since I read the first arc, and my only complaint is that I wish Cloonan could do the whole thing.

# ¿ May 16, 2013 01:40

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