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deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Midorka posted:

The fact that I can still find Hoptimum on the shelf at the price of $8.99 is just loving dumb. I shouldn't be able to and I'm going to buy 2 four packs tomorrow because this is my new favorite IIPA in the world. I put this above any other IIPA I've had, except maybe Abrasive or Double Jack. This beer is proof that if you aren't hard to get and severely hyped that you'll get only good ratings (as opposed to amazing ratings) and it won't be bought by the case. The fact that this is sitting on the shelf and beers like Hopslam are bought by the case have me scratching my head. Oh well, more for me and I'm loving grateful for that, that and lots of Bigfoot still on the shelf will have me happy this Winter.

Hoptimum isn't a one-time release, they're brewing it for the next few months until they start brewing an Imperial Stout in late fall-ish to release as their 4-pack SKU, then they'll throw out Bigfoot in the four-packs, then Hoptimum again. Like a circle of life, but with beers.

And yes, it's loving delicious and I'm glad it'll be around for the next few months.

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deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Midorka posted:

Almost no IIPA that's overly hyped is a one-time release (Pliny, Hopslam, etc) Bigfoot is in 6 packs though, not 4 packs, hell I can find Pliny on tap at least once a month in Philly, yet people go loving apeshit for it, but neglect Hoptimum because of hype.

Hopslam is once a year, which is what I was insinuating. The once a year, one/limited batch thing is a massive contributor to hype. The whole "get it now or you won't get it this year" thing, you know?

And Bigfoot will be in four packs next year.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Angry Grimace posted:

I salute you, good sir :lol:. I wonder what the engraver was thinking as he had to put this into the software.

I wanted to get a HITLER DID 9/11 chalice, but unfortunately I'm in a state where purchase was required.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

zedprime posted:

Does this years SN Kellerweiss taste a little yeast stressed to anyone else? I bought a couple of 6 packs because I love hefeweizen and I remember enjoying SN's in the past, but this tastes like plastic and wet dog.

Kellerweiss isn't a seasonal, it's a year-round beer. Check the date code, it's quite possible you got an old bottle. The code is directly above the UPC, the first digit is for the year (0 for 2010, 1 for 2011, 2 for 2012), and the next three digits are a Julian day code.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

funkybottoms posted:

don't worry, it hasn't been year-round for all that long

I'm pretty sure it's been year round for about three years?

It's entirely possible that you got some bad bottles though, five months really isn't too old for a hefeweizen. Go ahead and shoot Sierra Nevada an e-mail if the rest of the bottles are bad, I'm sure they'll send you something neat.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

enthe0s posted:

Why was there such a big deal when Left Hand managed to do it with a bottle instead of cans like Guinness then? I understand that the cans need some sort of mechanism inside, but if the "big secret" is just using NO2 then shouldn't have Guinness been able to do the same thing way before Left Hand without having to use the ball?

Guinness switched their bottles to widget-free some time last year (the cans still have widgets). The thing is that it's a trade secret how they did it. It's also a trade secret to how Left Hand did their Nitro stout. Left Hand's nitro bottles are supposedly much nicer than the Guinness as well in terms of mouthfeel and appearance, there's a reason that the Guinness bottles tell you specifically to drink out of the bottle.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Munkaboo posted:

I couldnt finish a can of Deviant. Couldn't stand it. (I love Dale's)

I just took the last sip of a can of Deviant Dale's, and it is awesome. If you "couldn't stand it", it's probably because you don't like Summit hops. Then, I implore you to never try Oskar Blues' GUBNA IPA. That thing is 100% Summit hopped, and is one of the most "love it or hate it" beers out there. I fall on the love it side.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Munkaboo posted:

Yep, I have specifically avoided it because I know I won't like it.

At least you know better. I keep picking up Belgian pale ales because I like Duvel, even though I haven't had another Belgian pale that I enjoy. I don't like any of them. I don't know why I keep doing it, but I keep loving buying Belgian pale ales.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

escape artist posted:

Oh man... Amazing. :fap: Especially the Zhukov in Apple Brandy barrels

Don't sleep on the Funky Buddha Last Snow for anyone who's going. That beer is so good.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Midorka posted:

I do have another question though, what does "Ale on Lees" mean?

It's a fancy way of saying "bottle conditioned".

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

CalvinDooglas posted:

Closing in on the end of this 2XIPA six pack. Stand up beer, low price. It's a really good IPA/DIPA standby.


You are in for a wonderful beer experience, then.

You've just gotta watch when you get it, because the bottles are undated and I don't think I've ever had an IPA/DIPA that noticeably falls off as hard as 2XIPA does after a month or so.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

air- posted:

Someone mentioned Funky Buddha's berliner and the apple beer earlier. The Cigar City/Funky Buddha/Bluejacket event is tonight at Churchkey, so any input on the other FB taps?

Is that Maple Bacon thing anything like Rogue's monstrosity?

No, the Maple Bacon Coffee Porter is like breakfast in a glass and is absolutely delicious. Make sure you try their Last Snow porter, No Crusts, and the Berliner as well.

bartolimu posted:

I think the Maple Bacon Porter was at EBF (they called it Good Morning or something breakfast-related, I don't remember what) and it was excellent.

Wide Awake It's Morning is their maple bacon imperial stout, I like the porter better personally.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Midorka posted:

I don't believe they use hop extracts, that's generally a no-no for anyone but the big guys. I think you might be mistaking that for the corn sugar they use to dry out the beer and give it the lighter body despite the high ABV, as well as probably mashing at a lower temperature to give more fermentable sugars. At least that's my understanding of it.

Nah, Pliny uses hop extracts primarily to add bitterness without adding body, as stated before. I believe they replace later additions with extract for that effect, the flavor and aroma still come from pellets.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

CalvinDooglas posted:

Got a Taste Victory case. Contains 4 each of Golden Monkey, Hop Devil, and Prima Pils. Pretty drat solid case if you ask me. It's nice to see a brewery fill their cases with all good beers, instead of the usual eight good beers and then four of the unpopular, crappy one.

:ssh: Golden Monkey is the crappy one.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

ShaneB posted:

I think Sierra Nevada's maibock, Glissade, is surprisingly good.
Glissade hasn't been produced for over a year, it was retired in favor of Ruthless Rye.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Speaking of good everyday single IPAs, I picked up a couple sixers from the store last time I ran in: Summit's Saga IPA, and Widmer's Shaddock IPA. They're both excellent daily drinkers, and will hang around in my normal Jai Alai/Two-Hearted/West Coast IPA/Stone IPA/Torpedo rotation as long as they hang around my area.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

CYBER SLIMER posted:

Any FL goons oughta head to Cigar City soon, we tapped a pretty special beer and are selling growlers.

What special beer is this? I wouldn't be able to make it until tomorrow at around five thirty or six anyway, so it'd probably be gone by then anyway. :(

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

CYBER SLIMER posted:

BTW the special beer is Brandy Barrel-aged Hunahpu's.

Aww balls. I wanted to stop by tonight but work kicked the poo poo out of me and I didn't feel like dealing with 75/I4 during rush hour. :(

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

CYBER SLIMER posted:

Hopefully it'll be back soon.

And I say this with some awesome news: I'm being promoted as the dude in charge of all the beers in the tasting room! Pretty loving awesome. Basically a dream of sorts.

This means growlers for everything, right? :haw:

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

enthe0s posted:

1 of my friends who works at a nearby craft brew store gave me 2 full growlers yesterday because he's turning off 1 of his fridges as he makes a trip down to Florida. I asked what was in them but he told me he honestly had no clue. I opened 1 up today to have a sip, and it tasted like chocolate covered cherries :stare:

I'm going to be very drunk tomorrow.

Probably the Stone Cherry Chocolate Stout in that bad boy.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

e: double post

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Holy poo poo Stone Ruination 10th Anniversary is exceptional. I've got all of the hops in my mouth right now. All of them.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

CYBER SLIMER posted:

Absolutely no strategy. I imagine most other notable breweries spend a lot pf time devoted to marketing and release strategies but uh we don't. At all. We have a couple big events a year but otherwise just play it by ear. With the Cognac Church I told Joey after we bottled it Monday, "Hey I'm going to start selling these Friday" and he said "Okay" and that was that. It kinda owns.

Gonna try to come and pick up a few bottles of the Cognac Church right now, one for me and two for Corbet, hopefully. It's over an hour drive though. :ohdear:

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Munkaboo posted:

2x the bitterness, it's good but almost too hoppy.

It seriously hits with the hoppiness to the point where it gives a bit of that super-dry mouth feeling that happens when you eat a hop pellet. And it's awesome.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

escape artist posted:

My views: This will suck.

Counterpoint: When have Lagunitas released a "sucky" IPA? Their normal IPA is 6.2%, it's not like 4.9% is a drastic drop.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Angry Grimace posted:

Beers in the sub 5% range tend to have very little body in my tastes and IPA is a very low body style to begin with - I've had a lot of beers in this style that end up tasting like hop water. Milds and dry-stouts like Guinness, etc. have a lot of specialty malts to fill their malt profile out but I've just found that most attempts to make IPAs out of beers in that range don't work that well.

I had a pint of Hill Farmstead's Edward Pale Ale the other day, and it kicked the poo poo out of a ton of IPAs I've had in terms of hoppiness at a 5.2% ABV. People are putting out great low ABV hoppy beers, and I really don't think Lagunitas are going to gently caress this up.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Sirotan posted:

Not to mention that a not small amount of people in this thread, who really should have known better, shelled out $20+ for the experience of drinking it. Sounds like they're doing something right. :v:

I saw it and knew better, but Rogue generally makes some tasty brews. I love their Hazelnut Brown Nectar so much, and am overjoyed that it's in sixers now. The Brutal and White Snow IPAs are also really good.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

I'll probably pick up Brux and let it sit in my pantry for a while to let the Brett kick in.

Speaking of Sierra Nevada brews sitting in my pantry, I bet that Life and Limb 2 is just about ready.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Y-Hat posted:

Apparently Hill Framstead is the brewery of the moment among beer fans, if the people at the bar are to be believed. I had their Society and Solitude #4 tonight and it's really good. It's very flavorful (floraly with some pine notes) but very drinkable at the same time. They think the keg should be kicked very soon.

Hill Farmstead do hella delicious beers. I gorged on their brews down at the Cigar City taproom a couple of weeks ago. Edward is SO GOOD.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

SUPER HASSLER posted:

For some insane reason, Crazy Mountain is distributing kegs to Houston bars :woop:

I have no idea why here of all places, considering Crazy Mountain is literally a rear garage in the basement of a stripmall off the interstate and I'm pretty sure they have a lot more fans in CO; I've seen their stuff on tape maybe 2 or 3 times in the course of a year there.

We get Crazy Mountain cans in Florida. :psyduck:

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Whodat Smith-Jones posted:

Tried to do the brewery tour at Stone today, but I forgot the minor detail of having to get there 2 hours ahead of time so you can get a tour ticket or whatever. Thanks to an accident on the highway that looked like someone probably died in, I didn't get there until 2:00, and the 4:00 tour was already full. I ended up touring Port/Lost Abbey instead. It was pretty interesting and was probably one of the better tours I've been on in terms of information about their brewing process. They were still aging barrels of beer they brewed in 2008.

I definitely want to make another trip back up to Stone in the next few weeks, but is there any easier way of going about getting a ticket that doesn't involve going there and having to hang out for 2 hours?

Is hanging out at the Stone bar for two hours and drinking delicious beers really that terrible a fate?

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Jenkin posted:

I'm going back home to DE for a few days next week, which means that I'll have to hit up Dogfish Head. The only thing I know for certain I'll be getting is their outstanding brown honey rum. I haven't tried any of their new stuff recently. If any of you find yourself in the area, though, the brewpub is worth a visit. As an added bonus you can watch beer nerds absolutely freak out about the place and take pictures of the taps while bored locals stare at them.

Positive Contact was really disappointing, it was really a bog-standard witbier with some amped up alcohol presence and a touch of fruitiness at the start.

I did really like Noble Rot though, if that's around I'd give that a try.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

air- posted:

Tokyo is probably the one beer from them that's decent. But there's many other imperial stouts to go after that won't cost you as much either!

poo poo, I've got a bottle of Tokyo in the back of my fridge that I've completely forgotten about. I got that poo poo for free. :c00lbert: I guess I'll drink it sometime when I don't need to be up in eight hours, because gently caress that.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

air- posted:

By the way, is it Tokyo* or Tokyo? The * one is 18% and that'll truly kick your rear end.

It's the rear end-kicking one, and that's why I forgot about it. Holding the power of nearly five "standard" beers in one 12oz bottle is nothing to scoff at, and it's why I forgot I had it. :shobon:

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Man, I know Harpoon gets ragged on fairly often, but I'm drinking their new Red Squared and it's a superb hoppy red. Compares favorably with the CCB Tocobaga I had before it, and that's pretty drat high praise since I love Tocobaga so much (although I did have a bad sixer last month, that was kinda a bummer).

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

FreelanceSocialist posted:

Why are we ragging on Harpoon?

I really like most of their beers (get out of here Winter Warmer), but people lump them into the same category as Sam Adams in that they're craft beers for people who don't really like craft beers (IE they're not XTREME enough).

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Angry Grimace posted:

I really like Sam Adams Boston Lager completely unironically. I don't get what's wrong with it, it's delicious.

I like 90% of what Sam Adams does, they're easily one of the most consistent breweries out there. Every season gets a mixed twelve pickup, and the recent move of Noble Pils to year-round is basically the best thing.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

danbanana posted:

Like Sam or even DFH, SN falls under the why-when-there's-something-local-or-untasted-on-the-shelf category.

At this point I've tasted just about everything I'm interested in that's reasonably priced except one-off releases in my market, and let me tell you, I'm buying at least one twelve-pack of Torpedo a month.

Yeah, Two-Hearted is probably just a little better, but is it worth the 50-70% premium it commands?

deadwing fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Aug 9, 2012

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Angry Grimace posted:

Yeah, both Pale 31 and DBA have barrel aged components; DBA is a 20% blend of barrel aged ESB and Pale 31 is 10% DBA and those are their most popular regular production beers. I think they have a pretty huge barrel aging program.

Those parts aren't technically barrel aged, they're "barrel fermented". More here.

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deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

A FUCKTON OF WEED posted:

I'm trying to get some info on Surly Brewing of Minnesota as I'm hoping to find someway to get cans here in San Francisco, but their website seems to be down. Is anyone familiar with them?

If you want to get cans to San Francisco, the only way besides trading with someone from the Minneapolis area is buying them off france44.com .

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