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Rufo posted:i dont think the subset of valid js that consists of only "table flip dudes" is gonna be enough to program in here is the converter I used http://utf-8.jp/public/aaencode.html hth
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Apr 26, 2012 01:54
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tinselt0wn posted:JavaScript is pretty amazing cause you can use one language for both client side and server side. No more learning a dozen languages to make your web app. One is all you need. one lang to rule them all and in a spergfest bind them
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Apr 26, 2012 01:56
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someone recommend a good phython book keep in mind i can't add 2 + 2
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tef posted:here is the converter I used http://utf-8.jp/public/aaencode.html hth mad
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THC posted:Golang unironically owns do you like it? some of its syntax is a little odd, like it's having an identity crisis
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gently caress SNEEP posted:i'm going to college to learn how to program bideo games (video games). i learned c in the fall and just finished my first c++ class. next semester I take another c++ class, a operating systems class (stuff like multi-threading), and a graphics class. i never have to learn java loving lol at this post
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Apr 26, 2012 02:00
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idiot hell fucker posted:loving lol at this post classic yospos
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Apr 26, 2012 02:00
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z0ratio fartboner posted:someone recommend a good phython book http://docs.python.org/tutorial/index.html  just install it and mash around it's not like real programming where you have to make an effort, except for lining poo poo up so it's indented
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I think we can all agree that the death of c++ cannot come too soon.
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Apr 26, 2012 02:23
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You can tell the dilettantes because they make posts about go that aren't "lol, go"
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Apr 26, 2012 02:44
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A language without generics, has lovely tools, and mandates conservative gc? Sign me up, I'm sure I'll have loads of fun reimplementing what would be 4 dependencies in my pom.xml if I were using java.
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Apr 26, 2012 02:47
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tef posted:http://docs.python.org/tutorial/index.html
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Apr 26, 2012 03:15
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Rufo posted:rip sourceforge lol yea I had to download a lib from there today and I was like oh yea I totally forgot this existed, why is anyone still using this and not github anyway.
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Apr 26, 2012 03:16
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goroutines are cool and anything that cuts down on clutter is a good thing imo but yeah 'dilettante' just about sums me up as a person
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When I went to university, we were not allowed to learn c because it was not yet officially recognized as a computer language by the British computer society. C++ was invented about a year later I think. We were taught pascal. I've never ever used pascal for real or ever seen it outside of academia. I'm sure I've told this story before so thanks for reading. Cheers. Also I am typing this on a blackberry PlayBook and it's very baf
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Dr. Honked posted:When I went to university, we were not allowed to learn c because it was not yet officially recognized as a computer language by the British computer society. C++ was invented about a year later I think. We were taught pascal. I've never ever used pascal for real or ever seen it outside of academia. I'm sure I've told this story before so thanks for reading. Cheers. Also I am typing this on a blackberry PlayBook and it's very baf whoa you are hella old. congrats on not being dead yet.
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The Management posted:I think we can all agree that the death of c++ cannot come too soon. I have been programming professionally for 24 years and I agree with this so ducking hard What the fucki is this plan book doing jesus
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tbh i'd rather talk about specific frameworks and poo poo over languages i'd much rather see a debate between emberjs/backbonejs or rails/django or something, see pros and cons of those language pros and cons tend to be irrelevant to me because i'm using a language either (a) because it's the only thing i can use (javascript) or (b) because i like the frameworks/libraries it has
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Apr 26, 2012 03:36
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Ronald Raiden posted:whoa you are hella old. congrats on not being dead yet. Thanks I eat vegetables and take brisk walks, it seems to work so far
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Apr 26, 2012 03:37
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I'm what you might call a "Programming Language Philosopher"
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anyone who thinks running javascript on a server is a good idea should get a new job as a walmart cashier
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Janin posted:anyone who thinks running javascript is a good idea should get a new job as a walmart cashier
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Janin posted:anyone who thinks running javascript on a server is a good idea should get a new job as a walmart cashier there's no disadvantages to running javascript on a server besides a smaller ecosystem to build on and don't say callback hell (just to pick out one of the many nonsensical criticisms against it); there's tons of libraries out there for taming it it's not a one-size-fit-all solution, and because of the small ecosystem and immature libraries it probably won't (and shouldn't) form the backbone of your site, but there's tons of web apps from github to okcupid using it in production alongside other frameworks for specific tasks it excels at. as it matures, you'll probably start to see more full stacks based on node.
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Apr 26, 2012 03:49
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anal volcano you should learn some languages that aren't javascript
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Ronald Raiden posted:anal volcano you should learn some languages that aren't javascript hey ive made views for django and flask before thanks to my terrible collabs with elgruntox so i can at least confidently pretend to know what i'm talking about (i like javascript  )
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Anal Tributary posted:there's no disadvantages to running javascript on a server besides a smaller ecosystem to build on
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Janin posted:how about the fact that all of the major javascript runtimes are single-threaded, slow as gently caress, and require at least an order of magnitude more cpu/ram/diskio than just writing your server in C like god intended? how about that none of this is relevant for the ways nodejs is currently being used by sites in production? also okcupid is a c++ shop and even they decided to switch to node for some of their stuff (and created tamejs to support it, which is nice), so apparently some people prefer the easiness over the speed vOv
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Anal Tributary posted:hey i know there's a bit of sarcasm here but seriously, learn some other languages
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Anal Tributary posted:how about that none of this is relevant for the ways nodejs is currently being used by sites in production? if your goal is to poo poo out a bunch of unreadable spaghetti code, waste cpu time, create some github repos and call it a day, then node.js and javascript are the technologies for you!
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Anal Tributary posted:apparently some people prefer the easiness over the speed vOv these people are wrong
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Dr. Honked posted:When I went to university, we were not allowed to learn c because it was not yet officially recognized as a computer language by the British computer society. C++ was invented about a year later I think. We were taught pascal. I've never ever used pascal for real or ever seen it outside of academia. I'm sure I've told this story before so thanks for reading. Cheers. Also I am typing this on a blackberry PlayBook and it's very baf dr honked youre p cool and tbqh i wouldnt mind spending an afternoon with you if i was in the area
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Inverse Icarus posted:i know there's a bit of sarcasm here but seriously, learn some other languages idk i'm trying to pick and choose my time i've had school taking up time. i have to get some sort of job this summer; it's gonna be some retail thing, i've got actual projects i want to do (things in javascript, because that's what i know). so that leaves like not a lot of pure learning time i'd like to learn c, or maybe lisp, but i don't have anything i'm working on that would really benefit from another language, or any projects i want to start that could use another language. and plus there's so much more poo poo i have to learn besides just languages. i want to learn redis (not that there's much to learn), mongodb, oh, also how to better-use actual SQL dbs, some basic devops stuff (migrations, deploys, etc). i'd like to learn how to do concurrent programming, wanna play around with functional languages, etc., etc. oh and i also really need to learn mobile web development. maybe even like iphone app development. so i have to pick and choose. right now i'm doing emberjs stuff because it's an undeveloped ecosystem where i have a chance to really contribute, i'm pretty good at javascript, and a project i'm working on needed a js mvc framework and i found emberjs easier to get started with than backbonejs. Janin posted:if your goal is to poo poo out a bunch of unreadable spaghetti code, cool i really like how not only did i mention that libraries exist to mitigate callback hell/spaghetti code, i also namedropped a specific one, and yet you still used this as a point 
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Anal Tributary posted:cool i really like how not only did i mention that libraries exist to mitigate callback hell/spaghetti code, i also namedropped a specific one, and yet you still used this as a point
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javascript: the language for people who think php imposes too much structure
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