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rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
I like javascript and c#, regular java is ok. python is great and everything I guess but my one true love will always be C.

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rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

rotor posted:

I like javascript and c#, regular java is ok. python is great and everything I guess but my one true love will always be C.

basically its like they made the best all-around language and everything since that is just minmaxing for whatever problem you have right now

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
there's a dude at work who can't loving shut up about git and at some point he used the phrase "the git revolution" unironically

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
I mean contrary to popular opinion I don't have a problem with git or anything but jesus christ dude

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
if ur in sf and are basically competent with js & python get me your resume

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
anyone actually usin websockets yet? seems like a cool thing

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
man, security ruins everything

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
my feeling on math & programming is that if you didn't find at least of of:

* linear algebra
* number theory
* calculus
* discrete math

interesting then you should probably look into a career as a plumber or an electrician or something, because those careers more closely resemble the kind of programming you'll end up doing if you don't like math.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
or "maths" if ur from some dingy little back alley of a country

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

trex eaterofcadrs posted:

learn the gently caress out of java, move to chicago, sell your soul to a trading firm, get paid 150-175k

alternately just move to sf and get paid the same at some startup for just dickin around

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Ronald Raiden posted:

all of those are pretty cool things also so is algorithms

who did you used to be

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

dazjw posted:

i was so bored at my old job i wrote most of an arm emulator in coffeescript during the downtime when they thought i was loving around on HN or facebook or w/e

literally cannot bring myself to open a text editor if I'm not being paid for it

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

trex eaterofcadrs posted:

yeah but a house in chicago isn't 1.5mio, unless you live on the lake/loop

neither is a house in sf unless you live in a really fancy part

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

trex eaterofcadrs posted:

slight hyperbole but aren't even normal houses "in the city" like 750+?

my place is around 600, 650. 3bdrms, decent yard.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Gentle Autist posted:

Programmers > 40 how much has your job changed over the course of your career

Did you ever consciously have to go learn something off the clock to make a career move or did you just change jobs/roles as they came up

me: "hmm. i could do this thing in a different language to teach myself. But is that really best for the product? Naw. But then again, my resume ... ok welp, gently caress the product, where's the o'reilly book for this?"

guy two years later: "why do we have so many dependancies?"

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
it really really pisses me off that browsers have just sort of evolved into this universal application platform

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
its sort of the equivalent of riding lawnmowers slowly over a decade becoming the standard mode of transportation with all this carlike poo poo crudely welded onto the sides and now your actual car can't drive on the tiny little roads and every time someone raves about some great feature of their new mower like "hey did you hear? the new model John Deeres have these lamps that let you safely drive in the dark so you don't have to carry a flashlight with you! they're called 'headlights!!!" you look back on your audi or lexus or whatever and die a little inside

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

passionate dongs posted:

browsers are the de facto application platform because like it or not, yospos.

relying on users to install a thing? relying on users to update a thing? relying on users to configure a thing?

there is no need to have a compiled apps for 99.999999999% of regular person computer activity.

* rides lawnmower off into sunset *

these were all solved problems and your ignorance of history is sadly predictable.

what killed desktop applications was security issues. it departments didn't want to be bothered with all these open ports and all these people installing these filthy applications on it's precious virginal computers.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Inverse Icarus posted:

yeah i love how adobe and java handle updates!

don't make me angry, switchboy

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Tiny Bug Child posted:

they were "solved" with lovely halfassed solutions. "gosh just <do arcane user-hostile procedure X>" is not really a solution when you can have the same thing by opening yr browser and going to a page

lol ok tbc sure man, sure

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Tiny Bug Child posted:

they were "solved" with lovely halfassed solutions. "gosh just <do arcane user-hostile procedure X>" is not really a solution when you can have the same thing by opening yr browser and going to a page

*pats you on the head*

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
now run along & play you lil scamp

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
reminder that in the year 2012 people are literally excited about the following upcoming features of their development platform:

* opening a socket
* accelerated 3d rendering

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Tiny Bug Child posted:

why can't i use modern technology on my lovely old hardware. why.

because your modern technology is literally several orders of magnitude less efficient

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
2 months ago I saw a web page with an implementation of asteroids in a browser that got like 5fps

10 years ago I saw a web page with an implementation of asteroids in svg that got like 5 fps

15 years ago I saw an implementation of asteroids in java that got like 5 fps

20 years ago I saw an implementation of asteroids written in pascal that got like 5fps

~*~progress~*~

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Tiny Bug Child posted:

sure. that's the cost of hyper-general-purpose computing. you could always use one of those efficient commodore 64s

that's true, quadcores are deffo more general purpose than pentiums

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
why am I talking to tiny bug child, my god

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Inverse Icarus posted:

not to mention computers started with thin clients and it was great and easier to manage

you know what's even easier to manage? no computers at all!

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Markov Chain Chomp posted:

he's completely right, you know. the update issue has been solved but none of the major applications bothered to use the solution.

windows developers, not network admins, ruined the desktop

its both, but yeah. if osx had been what it is now in 1998, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

and in a way, the desktop IS having great success, but only on iOS.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Luigi Thirty posted:

webos is clearly the framework of the future

ui in html5 + css + "enyo framework" (see also: jquery), logic in javascript

its prototype + node.js actually

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

HTML5 posted:

or it's because people don't do just one thing at a time anymore

yeah multitaksing wasn't invented until around 2000 or so, good point

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

fidel sarcastro posted:

as the runaway success of webos has shown us,

can we stop talking about webos please, I don't want to ruin my mascara

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Inverse Icarus posted:

wife literally said "gently caress those google assholes, make them fix it"

mrs icarus is the true goon

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Inverse Icarus posted:

*sips pbr, adds more whitespace*

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
thunderbird seems fine unless it got a bunch worse in the last 2 or 3 years

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
nothing was good enough for steve

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
lmao if your program isn't simply a collection of smaller single-purpose programs that talk to each other using character streams that can have their parallelism managed by the os

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Otto Skorzeny posted:

my system doesn't have an os :(

:wth:

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
if you got no os idunno just write some bytes or some poo poo I ain't give a gently caress

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rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
nigga so poor he ain't even got an os, drat, it hard for a po white man to get ahead in obamas america

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