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Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

SHUT UP SULK

# ¿ May 17, 2012 06:54

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# ¿ May 15, 2024 01:02

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

hehhhhhh

# ¿ May 19, 2012 12:13

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

i can tell im developing as a coder because instead of just emptyquoting stuff like that with a "loll" i now take a minute to actually get fuckin' horrified at what the gently caress im looking at

# ¿ May 19, 2012 12:16

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

tef posted:

teaching java first leads to a common affliction known as 'public void static' disease in new programmers. it is often terminal

public void static sounds like the most 90's EBM album

# ¿ May 22, 2012 06:49

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

perl is great, autoviv is great, man i am really starting to like it a lot

# ¿ May 24, 2012 11:24

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

no gimmick, perl puts bread on my table. its good poo poo

# ¿ May 24, 2012 11:28

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

just discovered perl -d

the skiez have opened....

# ¿ May 25, 2012 08:47

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

tef posted:

wait till you discover perl -P
code:
$ perl -P
#define butts print
butts "lol\n";
lol

quoting 4 da snype. nice

# ¿ May 25, 2012 09:27

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

haha
no but it is fun for goofs

im being very sane and conservative for my first few things. i have much cleanup to do. these data structures....oh god these data structures

# ¿ May 25, 2012 09:45

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

yaoi prophet posted:

looks like it got taken out sometime before 5.14

root@matrix: $ perl -V
Summary of my perl5 (5.0 patchlevel 4 subversion 5) configuration:

seriously their poo poo is coal fired here

# ¿ May 25, 2012 09:46

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

Otto Skorzeny posted:

18 years old. the perl binary on your system is old enough to join the loving marines

Save Money. Live Better. Wring The Last Penny Out Of Your Infrastructure.

# ¿ May 26, 2012 06:35

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

lol lookit dem waistlines

# ¿ May 26, 2012 08:03

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

MSPain posted:

quick question

I have to learn perl for my new job. for the sake of brevity I'll just ask my question, but keep that perl thing in mind.

perl is loving lame as hell, right?

im a dumb noob fanboy but perl is pretty cool
ignore the 'executable line noise lol' retards

Impatient Perl got me rolling more than any other book, Modern Perl is okay too

# ¿ May 27, 2012 09:46

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

MSPain posted:

so far my impression is that having to use references is going to be a pain to get used to and the default variable $_ thing is going to gently caress with me and I will hate it until the day I decide it's awesome

if you can't tell i've been coddled by the likes of java and the other big web development languages

i think its really nice but if you dont wanna use $_ you can do foreach my $butts (@tits) and then you can use $butts as the iterator

references own though after you wrap your head around them (im like 80% there)

# ¿ May 27, 2012 16:28

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

that doesn't look like vacationposting to me :colbert:

# ¿ May 30, 2012 09:39

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

heh

# ¿ May 30, 2012 09:43

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

cPerls: ugh they are wanting me to rework these scripts so that they pop a ticket for each of X devices down instead of a single ticket that says "you got a bunch of devices down) but there's no granularity at that device level so once we pop tickets with this, we'll never be able to address the tickets to auto close the correct ones if they come back online

however this solves a nice 'soft issue' where we stop tickets from auto-closing and then manually close them for credit. this is SOP

# ¿ May 30, 2012 10:37

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

Duck Typing Of The Dead snype

# ¿ May 31, 2012 10:59

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

if you know how to powershift a manual transmission, congratulations, you're integrating functions and fuckin' with derivatives and poo poo

# ¿ Jun 2, 2012 09:43

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

[ASK] me about this really depressing theory I have that humans are literally nothing more than bags of water and lookup tables that spend most of their time and resources and life building up one database of i/o but actually only take action when they receive input from another, much smaller and more critical set of inputs

# ¿ Jun 2, 2012 10:53

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

Hammerite posted:

watching americans talk about these things is weird because they say things like "oh calculus 2 was my favourite calculus" and expect you to know what the hell calculus 2 is. are your mathematics courses really totally 100% uniform across every institution in the whole country or what

if you don't standardize your classes, when people transfer (which they do all the loving time) the credits they earned at your college may not transfer over and welp they wasted their money and will tell their friends to not go to your college

one thing that is very bad to do is to give any reason at all to your new school to deny credits from old schools, which they loving love to do, because it means you have to take more classes at the new school and pay them more money

# ¿ Jun 2, 2012 11:58

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

we could get real pedantic down here in this rabbit hole, you and me, but we ain't gonna. you know what i mean

# ¿ Jun 2, 2012 13:50

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

looooooool

im now determining the asymptote of how mad you're getting about this

# ¿ Jun 2, 2012 13:59

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

hang on a bit

# ¿ Jun 2, 2012 14:00

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

RETICULATING WHINES.....

# ¿ Jun 2, 2012 14:00

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

wait is that where this is coming from, is that actually something people say

if so i've found your problem

you live in a country where david beckham rates a mention

# ¿ Jun 2, 2012 14:50

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

rotor posted:

the company i left hella tanked right after i left, a couple important people had already left then within 6 mos everyone who'd been there longer than a year was gone

isnt that a great feeling, i mean, obv it sucks on a human level, but dodging bullets is always great

# ¿ Jun 6, 2012 12:56

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

ahhh spiders posted:

tail call optimization

"sup girl what you doin tonight"

# ¿ Jun 29, 2012 14:31

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

420 use strict; erry day

if you don't your a chump who writes unmaintainable code

# ¿ Jul 3, 2012 18:10

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

tef posted:

http://codingconduct.cc/Paideia-as-Paidia

i didnt wanna be all @tef #twitprops #proread but i went through this and it was really good

# ¿ Jul 4, 2012 00:09

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

JawnV6 posted:

also absolutely nobody has any clue how to 'debug' and even hinting at something like the scientific method will have you regarded as a master of black magicks

i tried to explain that we need to use perl tests because welp they're there and easy to use and they looked at me like i was speaking martian

"what? just install it at a store and see if it works"

# ¿ Jul 9, 2012 21:04

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

i put shaggar on ignore and 7 weeks later i had a programming job

# ¿ Jul 10, 2012 01:11

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

luv ya, buddy

# ¿ Jul 10, 2012 01:11

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

god drat perl is cool
like srs every day im learning a new module and some new poo poo to do and am constantly thinking of ways to implement it, as a language it never frustrates me without my fuckup being the root cause, i am pretty good with the debugger at this point, hell yeah

# ¿ Jul 10, 2012 01:57

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

perl debugger is dead simple, at least how i use it

-d flag to invoke of course
add this up top:
use Data::Dumper;

s to single step (after you s you can just enter enter enter to step)

c <line number> or c <sub> breaks you there
c <enter> to just blow through to the end
R restarts from the beginning
L lists your breakpoints
V lists your vars
S lists subroutines

p <$scalar> prints it
x <@array or %hash> prints those
but dont use that
use
print Dumper(\%hash)

if you want to do a postmortem on your vars, do an o inhibit_exit before you c

also imo it is easier + faster to gently caress around in the debugger versus writing/running if you're just learning how print works and poo poo. run 'perl -de 1', boom youre in a clean interpreter. R wipes your vars, fresh start.

Jonny 290 fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Jul 10, 2012

# ¿ Jul 10, 2012 04:30

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

everybody tells me ruby when i ask them that

# ¿ Jul 10, 2012 19:30

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

tef posted:

in before exception that proves the rule

================================= TRUE

# ¿ Jul 10, 2012 20:53

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

i have no idea what scale Real Programmers deal with but here it's anywhere from 10 to 3k LoC in one perl program, ballpark. anything bigger and we break it up or do it another way

keep in mind, perl 5.0

# ¿ Jul 10, 2012 21:05

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

Necc0 posted:

gonna guess that you don't like public speaking. cool talk though

if you truly enjoy public speaking you have an inflated ego

# ¿ Jul 10, 2012 22:05

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# ¿ May 15, 2024 01:02

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

if you read slides youre a bad speaker

if you read slides and know you're reading slides and try to cloak it in a bunch of hmms and as we can see heres and as we all knows, you're worse than that guy

# ¿ Jul 10, 2012 23:39

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