Marlboro Lover posted:

OK, I registered just to comment on this release. I just installed it on my HP Envy 17 with an Intel Core i7-2630QM with 6gb of ram, and it is kinda weird.

For the first 15-30 minutes, everything runs kinda sluggishly, but then everything starts working at a decent speed (for example, up until just a few seconds ago loading websites on firefox took 2-3 minutes, and typing things into this text box caused a delay of 1-2 seconds from when I would hit a key and the text would actually show up).

Now everything is running at the speed of the old LTS release, but this seems like the sort of thing that might cause new users to run away screaming. Even when running the Live CD (off of a USB), I had to reboot it several times before it would run fast enough for me to even install the system.

I suppose it is tolerable, but I wish I didn't have to wait for a break-in period every time I rebooted the system. Aside from that, everything seems pretty nice.

edit: It does this regardless of whether the proprietary ATI driver is installed or not.

edit2: Rebooting reproduced the symptoms I just described. I also have my home directory encrypted. That shouldn't be causing the problem, though. This kinda reminds me of how Linux was 10 years ago...

Heid the Ball posted:

Installed Pangolin on friday night. Now I have the following issues:

1) Random logouts where it dumps me back to the Ubuntu login screen, losing any open work as it does so.

2) No power button in top right. (hard button still brings up shut down dialog)

3) No volume button in top right.

4) No apps listed in dash. unless its already in the dock, I can't get to it. This includes Terminal. Unable to install anything from the ubuntu app store as the permission dialog appears and disappears instantly.

5) Flash is super crashy in firefox, but can't install any variations, as above.

6) Video played through the video player is blue tinted.

I presume a lot of this could be down to my nVidia card, going by discussions in here. How can I fix this, without access to the terminal? CTRL-ALT-F5 just gives me a dead screen. Tried to fix using dpkg in the boot menu, but to no avail. I get some info about out of date for unity lens???

Otherwise 12.04 has been just PEACHY.

Xenomorph posted:

text on shutdown screen

Heid the Ball posted:

I lied.

Just put a fresh install of 12.04 in, easier to create a boot cd. Working perfectly now.

Sigh.

Mak0rz posted:

Does anyone use the Ubuntu One cloud service? I'm on the lookout for one that isn't Dropbox but is cross-platform. Would goons recommend it?

The Merkinman posted:

EA will be at the Ubuntu Developer Summit.

A lot of the comments I've read have been hilariously

ShadowHawk posted:

ShadowHawk posted:

Yeah, were you listening to me on the mic by chance?

Longinus00 posted:

How is UDS this year? Is there a website for tapped/recorded sessions?

Lysidas posted:

The first 12.10 daily builds have been released (e.g. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/). Time to upgrade; 12.04 is so two weeks ago

Lysidas posted:

kubuntu best *buntu

I experienced a few hiccups during the 12.04 development phase, which mostly came from my insistence on using aptitude when its multiarch support didn't work very well. There were a few flashplugin-installer updates that would make aptitude attempt to remove half of my system in order to resolve dependencies, and ShadowHawk was very helpful in saying "use apt-get or GUI package management tools".

I'm not actually going to upgrade until KDE 4.9 is released; at the moment the only appreciable differences between Precise and Quantal (from my perspective) are kernel 3.4 and Git 1.7.10. It's a very nice coincidence that KDE has also been doing 6-month release cycles for the last two years; every recent Kubuntu release has included a new KDE.

EDIT: Actually, ShadowHawk said "use apt-get to install Wine" -- the flashplugin-installer stuff usually worked itself out in a day or two. It seems that the software repositories for development versions of Ubuntu aren't always internally consistent (which makes perfect sense), so you may get unlucky with some updates that will obviously break your system. "Proposed update would remove 130 important-looking packages" = "wait a few days and try to aptitude full-upgrade again".

gmq posted:

I have one question though, is there anything similar to Photoshop that is not GIMP? I used to use a Windows VM just for Photoshop and I'd like to avoid that this time.

gmq posted:

Last time I tried that, Photoshop ran actually slower than on a VM and it had some graphical issues.

revmoo posted:

Ok I'm three hours in and I'm channeling 1999. How do I get a working E.Q. in Ubuntu? Every single possible thing that existed no longer works on Precise Pangolin, and Winamp in Wine is completely spastic. What is the easiest path to get an equalizer in Ubuntu? This poo poo used to come with Movie Player and it seems to be totally absent now.

MrMoo posted:

The launchpad bug mentions that the equalizer depends on a package that isn't in the main supported repository thus it cannot be included.

Craptacular! posted:

Praise heaven. Canonical was starting to run away with paid software in Software Centre, which wasn't great news for people who don't use Ubuntu.

Craptacular! posted:

Nope. Developing on Linux is great, I miss when id used to be somewhat expedient about it. It's not really so much Canonical's fault as much as it is the reality of package-based software, I guess. I don't want to go back to the days of "download source and compile" certainly, but the way they're distributing it isn't the most even handed?

I don't quite know how to express myself, except to say go on a Debian forum and suggest somebody use a Launchpad PPA for practically anything and watch the "DON'T USE UBUNTU BINARIES YOU WILL DIE IN DEPENDENCY HELL AND VIRGINS WILL BE SACRIFICED" reaction. This is especially common in Wine, where people use the WineHQ PPA intended for Ubuntu to get unstable versions (though since Sid now keeps this up to date, you can pin to that and it's less of a problem).

Another example is a lot of quality community-built software distribute via a Launchpad PPA that asks you if you're using anything between Karmic and Quixotic but doesn't consider anything else. I just use those repos anyway, because what are the odds a simple Twitter client or what have you will have a dependency breakdown?

If Steam came in, and eventually supports multiple distros, and allows people to buy and download and auto-update games, which are usually among the most complicated software, without having to mess about with repositories and dependencies and whatnot? That'd be great.

deong posted:

Are the Quantal 12.10 alpha builds nearly complete at this point? I'm wanting to do a fresh install, I've got way too many random repos etc on my system and its just time to start fresh. I think this current build has 5 dist-upgrades. I'm in the mood to finally get'er done, and I figure with just a month to go it should be pretty stable?

Crayvex posted:

Stupid question time, I'm running 12.04 right now. How do I update to 12.04.1? I ran all the updates and lsb shows:

Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
Release: 12.04
Codename: precise

Am I already upgraded? Hurr... I am sorry if I am stupid. I'm coming from SUSE.

vulturesrow posted:

Thanks. Meant to ask this earlier, but is there any reason not to use the 64 bit version of Pangolin?

Nystral posted:

Do you miss the days of green and black CRT displays or something?

Lysidas posted:

I'm already looking forward to 13.04. I'm using Quantal on all of my machines and have been since the Nvidia closed-source driver was usable. Now that 12.10 is converging toward a stable release, there aren't any crazy "replace every package and break the system" updates anymore, and it just doesn't feel right.

I also can't wait until the system installation of Python is the newly-released 3.3, which I'm guessing was released too late to make it into Quantal as the default Python 3 version.

Side note: I think it's really neat that the plan for 12.10 is to only install Python 3 by default, but the daily CD images still have 2.7 in addition to 3.2. I wonder whether it'll actually happen.

Powered Descent posted:

I go to get 12.10, but before giving me a download link, Canonical hits me up for a donation. (And if you skip the donation, it starts a download for 12.04LTS, not the new one. Hmm.) So I get 12.10 from the torrent link instead, load it onto a test system with no problems, and boot to the Unity desktop. The first thing that I notice is the Amazon referrer link, prominently placed on the Launcher. The next thing I notice is that Amazon ads are taking up almost the entire Dash.

Um... not to be indelicate, but is Canonical hard up for cash? Like, Shuttleworth's going hungry and the water's been turned off? Because suddenly I'm getting a huge desperate-for-money vibe here.