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Barometer
Sep 23, 2007

You travelled a long way for
"I don't know", sonny.
:whip: :cthulhu: :shivdurf:

He was an Indian. Khan Noonien Singh, from India. Genetically altered to be superior to average Humans in strength and intelligence, resistance to disease, etc. (also made them "unstable" mentally, so a bunch of them tried to rule the world).

I wonder how this story is going to be written, like, why does Khan give a poo poo about Kirk and Spock?

Dwayne Johnson should have gotten this role. BBS was right about Cumberbach being a shoe-in for a Vulcan but "genetically altered superman", he ain't.

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Barometer
Sep 23, 2007

You travelled a long way for
"I don't know", sonny.
:whip: :cthulhu: :shivdurf:

One of the biggest hurdles for this is the set up of the rivalry between Kirk and Khan. Wrath of Khan was fan service in that it brought TOS into the movie universe. There was a backstory not only about Khan's conquest of Asia but that he wooed a member of Kirk's crew out from under him. She betrayed him, her crew and Starfleet all for love of this guy and so magnanimus Kirk loving let them go. Khan's pissed that Kirk hid the fact that they were there and never checked up on them, and his love died.

Now, are they going to somehow cover all that in the first act, or first two acts or (as I suspect) are they going to just rewrite the whole shebang and have Khan just losing his poo poo for a crack at Kirk for no reason whatsoever.

This movie should be about the crew and ship coming together through adversity/numerous things. Take a few different old school episodes and mash them into a movie showing the main characters all settling into their roles. Give everyoe a chance to shine and have the "enemy" be something they all need to combat, instead of yet another "single bad guy that must be taken down because he's gonna do dastardly things". Hell, I'd rather they were using Colonel Green to be honest, he'd serve the fans and he's also got so little backstory (hitler-esque dude) that you could go anywhere with him.

Barometer
Sep 23, 2007

You travelled a long way for
"I don't know", sonny.
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Shaddak posted:

Green has potential. Unfortunately, he lived in the 21st century, not the 23rd.

Well, Khan had vanished and they found out he'd flown out into space, frozen. Green's ultimate fate is also not known, so anything goes, really. Trek is full to the brim with technological handwaving...hell, put Green into a transporter buffer, ala Scotty. Then you get neo-Scotty working on some ancient transporter tech and he frees Green and OH HELL NO, I'm not putting my great ideas out there for free. :)

Barometer
Sep 23, 2007

You travelled a long way for
"I don't know", sonny.
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Crozier Saves posted:

So let me get this straight: Khan, whose name sounds Indian, was played by a Hispanic guy, and people are getting all up in arms over race now? He was all over the place to begin with.

You mean to say that a non-white character was played by a non-white actor? A Latino in "tanface", no less...44 years ago, and that's going to be your standard, now? At least 44 years ago they decided to hire someone who wasn't whiter than Kirk for the role of an Indian. 2012, however, and we're back to square one.


Not even considered, I bet.

Barometer
Sep 23, 2007

You travelled a long way for
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They look more Russian than Nazi, to me. Crappy, regardless, but there you have it. I was thinking they look more like Cadet Uniforms, perhaps a graduation ceremony or something but I don't remember there being anything like that in the first one so...alternate universe would be most welcome. I love those stories.

Barometer
Sep 23, 2007

You travelled a long way for
"I don't know", sonny.
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"A Good Day to Die Hard; The story of Viagra"


Like most of you, I'm not feeling the Trek into Darkness title either, but it isn't enough to sour me on the film. Even though I didn't really get into the reboot, I'm such a fan of Star Trek in general that I feel like I have to see this.

Barometer
Sep 23, 2007

You travelled a long way for
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I think that "brig" looks more like an medical isolation chamber. The kind of place a crewman might be put after he was exposed to super-duper space gamma rays or some poo poo. Also, the expressions they have don't really read as "captive" and "captor" so much as Cumberbach looks like he's saying "what the gently caress, Jim, I feel fine".

Barometer
Sep 23, 2007

You travelled a long way for
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MikeJF posted:

My mother just saw the trailer and said to me 'Ooo, that looks like fun! It's like Star Wars vs Star Trek!'

High five your mom for me, please.

Barometer
Sep 23, 2007

You travelled a long way for
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So, Geo. Takei posted on his facebook that some fan or other pointed out that the shuttle appears to have "Takay" written on the side of it. Anyone else hear anything about this? I think it would be pretty awesome if it was a shout-out to our boy Sulu.

Barometer
Sep 23, 2007

You travelled a long way for
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Aatrek posted:

Also, that quick shot of Kirk and Scotty running down the walls of the corridor is pretty awesome.

Maybe I'm too much of a nerd or something but it bothered me. If they have artificial gravity then it wouldn't happen and if the gravity were off from a power outage or something they'd be in zero G and it wouldn't happen, they'd be floating around. I mean, I like the idea but it just doesn't make sense.



Edit, I hadn't thought of that, so I guess it may very well make sense! :)
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Barometer fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Apr 16, 2013

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Barometer
Sep 23, 2007

You travelled a long way for
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Maybe they shouldn't have built this Enterprise out of styrofoam. :colbert:

Serious post; I do wish there were more things on the walls, like screens or even cheesy boxes with buttons on them or something, they are just so bland and boring, visually. I like all the curves, though.

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