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The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > Cinema Discusso > Star Trek: Round Spaceships
 
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timeandtide
Nov 29, 2007

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SuperMechagodzilla posted:

She behaves believably. Marcus is totally aware of Kirk's reputation, and finds him pathetic and not worthy of her time. She gets naked anyways because she wants to.

It's her body and she's not covering up out of modesty or shame. She's not covering up at all (this is crucial). Kirk turns around and she doesn't care, but she still rejects his advances because she simply doesn't like him.

Covering this up with a plot explanation for why women change clothes sometimes would render the scene gratuitous by obfuscating the actual content (Marcus' attack on Kirk's sexism), to make it about dilithium crystals or something (see the ridiculously skeevy decontamination scenes in Enterprise).

The irony is that Eve does a fantastic job acting out the callous "yes, I have breasts. gently caress off." That is the characterization, but folks are overlooking that personality because they can see her bra. That's your fault - not the movie's, the character's, or Eve's fault.

Even worse, they're missing out that the film doesn't develop a romance between them (which would be the usual "pay off" for a scene like that) and Kirk's very specific last line to her: something along the lines of "you are always welcome on this ship, as a crew member, Dr. Marcus."

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timeandtide
Nov 29, 2007

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You don't even need to see The Avengers to see that the Marcus and Black Widow images aren't conveying the same thing: Black Widow is in an extremely compliant pose - in fact, it's almost defensive, like she's a shy girl next door tee hee.

The one of Marcus/Eve (what a fantastic last name for the role she's playing, by the way!) is defiant and not at ease. There's stress in her body posture and she looks like she's about to tell someone to gently caress off.

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