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Lord Krangdar posted:You don't seem to understand how creative decisions are made. It's not a rational process, and it often can come down to split second gut decisions made while multitasking. Your expectations are totally alien to the way creative decisions are actually made, as described in this short interview with the casting directors on this film: Those gut decisions are shaped and influenced by broader social forces. What actors are hot now? Who does the director or casting director know? What entirely unconscious biases do the people involved have? We call these things "systemic racism", or, when women are involved, "patriarchy" (kyriarchy). Specific people don't have to have malicious intent or even unconscious racist feelings for the results of their decisions to have problematic implications. I think what Warszawa would ask is that us white folks try to be a little more attentive to these issues when doing things like casting for a movie. In that light I find it especially troubling that they already recognized that there were reasons to get a latino actor but when push came to shove they went with a white guy. To my mind this shows that they didn't put enough thought into it and/or didn't care. At the very least I'm going to call that "insensitive" and whether I believe it to be deeply important that THIS part be played by THIS minority, the results of the creative process need to be questioned for how they interact with broader social trends. Also, "relatively good" is not the same as "good", and even the relatively part is debatable.
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It MIGHT have some relevance if the false name in the new movie had been Erickson. That would have at least demonstrated that the writers were aware of some of the complex racial issues at play with the character of Khan. It still would have been far from perfect, but I think it would have been better and even would have lent some credence to SMG's reading of the film. Instead it just come off as thoughtless, especially given JJ's brushoff of the question.
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Jun 16, 2013 22:31
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Cingulate posted:The shuttle chase scene was used for character development ... Such wonderful character development too! I sure liked knowing that Spock needed his girlfriend's permission to heroically sacrifice himself for others. Cause that's what women are like amirightfellas? 
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Jun 23, 2013 16:07
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Cingulate posted:You may argue that it was bad character development, or, it seems in this case, character development you somehow didn't like. By arguing that you're however agreeing to the presupposition that it's character development. I didn't deny that it was. I was just taking the opportunity to complain about how stupid that scene was and the disgusting sexism on display. Sorry if it came out wrong.
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