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Lanus probably disappointed to only have scored 1 against Vasco. They had some great opportunities that they totally wasted. I think it was Reguiero who skyed it over the bar with the goalkeeper caught out of position. That second goal from Diego Souza... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXY2IGw26R8
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On the topic of South American continental competition, the Copa America has some footage from the recent tournaments up on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/CopaAmerica They streamed all the matches at the 2011 Copa America on youtube and it was loving awesome. I hope they do it again for the next one (Chile 2015).
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Watching Universidad and Deportivo Quito and the first half is wrapping up. Some of the lights blew out in the stadium and they weren't playing for awhile, then it got a little edgy with some petty fouls, then it opened up. Quito had a great counter attacking goal, then Universidad pegged them back (Sweet goal by Matias Rodriguez), a Quito player got sent off for a second yellow, then Quito tried to dive to win a penalty but the ref waived it away, then in the 44th minute they took a corner quickly and got a head to it. Quito are super desperate out there. 2nd half will be interesting if Universidad can get another goal.
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He probably had it coming. Quito were... uhh... creative with their gamesmanship. I guess they had to be since they got a man sent off with 60 something minutes left, but they were doing it since kick off. Here are some highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtSf7y5fLpw
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Libertadores tonight, tomorrow, and Thursday. Velez Sarsfield (Argentina) host Atletico Nacional (Colombia). Velez is 1-0 up with an away goal and they're probably going through. They play at 7PM EDT. Libertad (Paraguay) host Cruz Azul (Mexico). Their game went 1-1 when it was back in Mexico. The bookmakers have Libertad as pretty firm favorites. This game's at 9:30PM EDT. If you can only watch one match tonight, as a neutral, I'd probably pick Libertad v. Cruz Azul, but that poo poo is late as hell Euro time. Like 1AM? The big games are tomorrow. Boca Juniors (Argentina) go to Chile and play Union Espanola with Boca currently up 2-1. They play at 6:30PM EDT and this game will be awesome. Corinthians (Brazil) host underdogs Emelec (Ecuador) with the scores tied at 0-0. Corinthians will probably roll them, as they have a pretty good home record so far this year, but Emelec have been the upset team this year. They play at 9PM EDT. Return leg of the Lanus (Argentina) v. Vasco (Brazil) game. Vasco currently 2-1 up, but Lanus got the important away goal. This game's also at 9PM EDT. Watch the Boca game. It'll be cool. I swear. I'll post some equally unimpressive previews for Thursday's matches tomorrow.
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Cruz Azul lost 2-0. They put a lot into the game, but Libertad were just better. Libertad were super fast and moved the ball well while Cruz kept giving the ball away sloppily and wasting opportunities. That being said, both of the goals Cruz conceded were from free kicks whipped into unmarked players. Basically gifted them two free headers. A Cruz defender made a ridiculous flying scissor kick save, though, which is always a positive to take away from getting dumped out of a continental competition. The Velez v. Atleti Nacional game ended 1-1 with Velez advancing. I didn't watch the game, but I caught the highlights. loving awesome free kick from Nacional: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1iE2cV22Uk
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hecko posted:With Tigre managing to be second in both tables. They could end being champions and still getting relegated (I think in that case the champion gets to stay in primera). Wow, only in Argentina! Between this and all the River Plate poo poo from awhile back, it seems like their league is hardly ever dull.
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Drogadon posted:Dude you gotta crosspost that to the goals thread, awesome kick! No joke. Mosquera took no run up. Ridiculous pace on that ball from just one step.
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Riquelme is just cool as gently caress. This game delivered in every respect. 3-2 Boca, for the most part they outplayed Espanola but the Chilean team had a resurge after Boca scored their second. Was end to end for awhile, Boca scored their third and then Espanola answered with a rebounded penalty. Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lG6A0CAmBE Boca is looking drat good this year. Turning on the style at just the right time in the tournament, too. Corinthians walked all over Emelec, 3-0. They pretty much strolled through the game. Even though they put three past them, I wish I had watched the Lanus/Vasco game instead. Vasco went 1-0 up then went on to concede 2 goals. Since there's no extra time in this stage, the game went to penalties. Lanus missed their second and consequently lost. The first goal by Nilton was a nice shot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ7q5xB_YNM Vinestalk fucked around with this message at 04:16 on May 10, 2012 |
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Bolivar @ Santos is the early game tomorrow (6:30PM EDT). Internacional @ Fluminese and Deportivo Quito @ Universidad de Chile are the late games (9PM EDT). I'm definitely watching the Santos game and I'll probably end up watching the Universidad game. Got a feeling that the first goal in the All Brazil game will decide that tie.
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Yeah, the young crew at Santos still hasn't matured at all. Still have a little bit of that petulant/bratty streak that made them look like assholes two seasons back. They played amazingly, though. Made Bolivar look amateur. Was pulling for a Bolivar win, though. dj_pain called that Universidad game. Deportivo were terrible, especially their keeper. Two different U teams in the first leg and the second leg. Deportivo ran all over them in the first leg, but couldn't even touch the ball against U in Chile. Would like to see Vasco and Boca in the final.
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Fox Deportes is the best channel for the US. Here's a list for all other countries.
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We're a week away from the start of the National Brazilian League (Brasileiro Campeonato, Serie A). So I figured I'd write up an effort OP in case anyone was interested. History The league football history in Brazil is a total clusterfuck. For the longest time, there was no national league in Brazil. Teams just competed on the state or city level, with the competitions in Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo being considered the most important. In the '60s and '70s, there were national cup tournaments, but still no league. A form of the Campeonato was started in 1971 once there was travel infrastructure to support it, but it used a weird format used by one of the old national cup tournaments (Involving two groups, the top two from each qualifying for a round robin tourney, and the best club of the tourney being crowned champions). This weird system was protested on a couple occasions and led to even crazier things... In 1987, the CBF (Brazilian Football Association) gave up on making a national club competition. So, 13 clubs decided to form their own non-association competition. FIFA threatened to sanction the CBF, so the CBF decided they'd half rear end it and just make another league out of the rest of the teams that weren't in the other league. And since the CBF was half assing it, they decided the champion of the other league might as well be recognized, too. Thus creating two national club champions (One from the 13 Clubs, another from the Brazil Association) in 1987. Hilarity continued to ensue when the CBF basically changed the rules of the league every year until 2003 (You can read a full history of the Campeonato league changes here). Now the Campeonato acts like a normal league, with 20 participants playing every other club home and away. 4 teams get relegated, the top 3 teams qualify for the 2nd stage of Copa Libertadores, 4th and 5th qualify for the 1st stage of Copa Libertadores, 6th through 14th qualify for Copa Sudamerica, and the winner of the Copa do Brasil qualifies for the 2nd stage of Copa Libertadores. The most winning teams in Serie A history (Since 1971) are Flamengo and Sao Paulo FC, both with 6 titles. One of those titles for Flamengo is their 1987 non-association title. Going further back, Santos and Palmeiras are considered champions of Brazil 8 times each. Last year's champions were Corinthians who finished two points clear of Vasco de Gama (Vasco had a great chance to steal the title on the last day, but drew 1-1 with local rivals Flamengo). Here's last year's table:  Who's competing?  The majority of the clubs come from the south and/or east. The city of Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro are both fielding 4 teams each, with the state of Sao Paulo fielding a total of 6 clubs. Here's a run down of some of interesting clubs...  Botafago, one of the big Rio clubs, have a pretty rich history. Part of that history is that they actually started as a rowing club and basically absorbed local football clubs. They've also had some incredible players come through their doors. The three big ones are Nilton Santos, Garrincha, and Jairzinho (And technically Socrates, but he's more of a Corinthians guy). Nowadays they're dependent on 35 year old journeyman Sebastian Abreu and a 22 year old ball girl.  Corinthians, one of the big Sao Paulo clubs, is the club you can blame for the existence of Kia Joorabchian. Corinthians were managed really poorly in the early 2000s and were looking like they would collapse without significant investment. Along comes Kia, who managed to help his company (MSI) get control of the club for 10 years in exchange for players and money. Obviously, this included Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano. After they got relegated and Kia couldn't suck anymore out of the club, Corinthians started making their comback. Funnily enough, they did this in spite of making terrible decisions like signing Ronaldo (Yes, fat Ronaldo) in 2009 and Adriano (Yes, fat Adriano) in 2011. They're now the champions of Brazil and one of the favorites at the Copa Libertadores. Corinthians also have a history of great players, though. Rivellino, Socrates, and Gilmar all played the majority of their career for the club. They also won the first Club World Cup, but no one really cares about that.  Coritiba, the biggest club in Curitiba (No, that's not a typo), are a mid-table side. They're famous for having a 24 match winning streak that no one cared about (Because they aren't from Rio or Sao Paulo) and for having a mascot that is literally an old man. Literally. His name is Grandpa Coxa.  Cruzeiro are a bad rear end club. Along with Mineiro, they're one of the big clubs out of Belo Horizonte. But, more importantly, they're a non-profit club that employs the socio setup for it's membership. They're the only club to have won the domestic treble (National title, Copa do Brasil, State title). They've also got a poo poo load of Continental trophies, including a bunch of defunct tournament trophies from when CONMEBOL was still trying to get it's poo poo together. A bunch of talented modern players got their start or made their big break at Cruzeiro. Maxwell, Juliano Belletti, Ramires, Cris, Dida, HuereLOL Gomes, worthless seal dribbling Kerlon... But, most famously, Cruzeiro is where Ronaldo began his professional career and it's where Tostao spent the majority of his career.  Flamengo are another one of the Rio power clubs. They also started as a rowing club and decided that was too boring for them back in 1911. What makes it interesting, though, is that local football team Fluminense had a dispute with their players, who thought Flamengo needed their services more. Thus began 100 years of pure contempt. Flamengo's also famous for producing some incredible players, the best known being Zico and Junior. You can now see former European stars Ronaldinho and Vagner Lover (Okay, calling him a star is pretty generous) play for Flamengo. Also, Kleberson (  ). Fluminense is the other half of that big Fla-Flu derby and another on of those big Rio clubs. Their famous for giving another team half their squad and then being mad about it. They're also a club with a long history of being associated with rich bastards (And, historically speaking, those rich bastards were pretty racist in the early- to mid-20th centruy). Flu also has a pretty crazy roller coaster history of relegations and championships. In recent times, they were in the finals of the Libertadores in 2007 and then managed to be on the brink of relegation in 2009 and then winning the Serie A title in 2010. You can now see European wash up Fred and aging playmaker Deco playing for Flu.  Gremio were one of the first big clubs to not be from Sao Paulo or Rio. Playing out of Porto Alegre, they also did crazy things like beat the Uruguayan national team back in 1911 and tour the world from 1932 to 1961. They've had weird mixed success in the modern era, but haven't really won that many trophies, other than totally dominating their state tournament. Gremio has produced some talented players, though. Ronaldinho and Emerson both got their starts at the club. As did Lucas Leiva (talented) and Anderson ("talented"). You can currently watch Gilberto Silva play for Gremio.  Internacional is the only other big team from Porto Alegre. They formed because a couple of bros weren't allowed to play for Gremio because those bros weren't of German ancestry. Thus the name Internacional, a club for people of every nation. There's a mild derby between them and Gremio. In recent history, they've been one of the more successful clubs in continental tournaments, but haven't won a national cup (since 1992) or a national title (1979) for quite awhile. Former Brazilian coach Dunga, AC Milan striker Pato, and star of "one of the best teams to never win a world," cup Falcao all got their start at Internacional.  Palmeiras is one of the big four in Sao Paulo. both Palmeiras and Cruzeiro share this thing where their club name was based on their Italian history (Both clubs being founded by Italian immigrants). During WW2, the Brazilian government wasn't fond of any association with Axis countries, so they ordered Palmeiras and Cruzeiro to change thier names. Palmerias was reluctant and they were close to losing all their assets and players to local rivals, with one local rival in particular laying claim to some hefty assets (Sao Paulo FC). Palmeiras wised up and changed their name, just in time for a local derby with Sao Paulo FC. Thus, another Brazilian derby is born. Palmeiras used to be a pretty successful club domestically, but not so much anymore.  Santos FC is the biggest club from their home city of Santos and the club of Pele. 80km from Sao Paulo, they're the big non-local rival to everybody, largely because of their massive amounts of history. Pele ring a bell? They won shed loads of trophies under their series of golden generations, including 5 domestic doubles and 2 continental doubles. On top of all the titles they've won, they've produced a bunch of players. Alex, Robinho, Deivid, and Diego are some of the more recent European names. More recently it's been the likes of Neymar and Paulo Henrique (Ganso). Did I mention Pele?  Sao Paulo FC, obviously based out of Sao Paulo, have been relatively successful in the modern era. They came off a great run when they won back-to-back-to-back Serie A championships from 2006-2008. They were also incredibly successful in international tournaments, with 8 continental trophies and the Club World Cup. Currently you can watch ex-Sevilla striker Luis Fabiano and Arsenal wash up Denilson putz around for Sao Paulo as they sit mid-table. But more importantly, you can watch Rogerio Ceni.  Vasco de Gama is the last of the big clubs from Rio. They were recently relegated for the first time in 110 years only to bounce back into Serie A (Finishing 2 points behind Corinthians) and win the Copa do Brasil. They're also pretty proud of their basketball. You can watch Juninho Pernambucano glare at the rest of his team and barely contain his rage every time you watch Vasco. This is great info but what games should I watch...? Derbies in Brazil are insane. There's a shitload of animosity between the local rivals, with a lot of it having to do with socio-economic issues. Belo Horizonte Derby, Atletico Mineiro vs. Cruzeiro Classico dos Classicos, elitist and historically racist Nautico vs. working class Sport Club do Recife The Fla-Flu Derby, Flamengo and Fluminense Clássico_dos_Milhões ("The Classic of Millions,"), Vasco vs. Flamengo The Grandpa Derby, Botafogo vs. Fluminense (supposedly the oldest derby in Brazil) The Gre-Nal, a fun little sporting game of foot between Gremio and Internacional The Majestic Classic (I think this name is meant to be ironic), Sao Paulo vs. Corinthians The King Shock, Sao Paulo vs. Palmeiras
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Thanks, fellow Southies.  That book looks awesome. Going to keep my eye out for it. Would be interesting to see Seedorf play in Brazil. Botafogo are pretty desperate for someone who can lead them and anyone who can score from midfield. That being said, if his intention is to play to win championships, I don't think Botafogo is the club for him.
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New Libertadores matches Wednesday and Thursday. Quarter Finals kick off with Universidad @ Libertad (6:30PM EDT) and then Corinthians @ Vasco (8:50PM EDT). Universidad are favorites, despite playing away from home. The Brazilian tie is a little more split. The last 10 games in Rio have gone 4-2-4 with Vasco having conceded 12 goals in their last 10 home games. My money's on a draw (figurative money, not literal). Thursday has Fluminense @ Boca (6:45PM EDT) and Santos @ Velez (9:00PM EDT). Definitely like Boca at home, but their biggest priority should be keeping a clean sheet. The Santos game should be interesting, since their away form has been mixed. My guess is they'll walk through this game then turn it on for the home leg like they did against Bolivar. If you can only watch one game this week? Boca. Should be a good game, especially if Flu can pick up an early goal.
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Drogadon posted:Yeah, the instability is awesome, it also enables the ocassional small team to show up and do some damage then disappear. You guys remember Paysandu? In Paysandu news, they made it to the Round of 16 in the Copa do Brasil. They beat Serie A team Sport Club do Recife along the way, so they still have a little bit of their magic. But they lost 5-1 on aggregate to Coritiba 
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Missed the Libertad v. Universidad game, but caught the highlights. 1-1 draw with la U defense totally gifting a goal to Libertad, then Libertad's goalkeeper repaying the gift by completely missing an errant shot. Universidad will be pretty happy with that and you can pretty much tell they'll take it in the next leg. The Vasco v. Corinthians game was nuts. Muddy as hell. Raining like crazy. Both teams wasting golden chances. Some decent, but erratic saves from both keepers. Vasco were on the front foot for the majority of the game and were denied a great goal in the 2nd half due to a really bad offsides call. I can't imagine playing with Fagner or Alecsandro is good for one's blood pressure. Game ended 0-0. Corinthians probably favorites to go through now. dj_pain, sneak some Libertadores at work (but not really, don't get fired). Vinestalk fucked around with this message at 03:46 on May 17, 2012 |
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Yeah, narrow misses by both teams. Sobis showing some flashes of stuff, Rodriguez is barreling down the left, hope they can keep the pace of this match without it getting too cagey. Atmosphere is always amazing there.
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Wow, a smile actually appeared on Falcioni's face when that 2nd yellow was shown. Bye Carlinhos, good luck Flu.
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Boca is going to be so disappointed if they don't take advantage in the first half. Flu's going to come out organized in the 2nd. Edit: Man, I don't know about that handball. Was definitely ball to hand and close quarters, but definitely a goal scoring chance. Vinestalk fucked around with this message at 00:34 on May 18, 2012 |
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 That pass by RiquelmeYeah, Tevez in the stands. 9 games in England is a long time, so he needs to recoup back in Argentina.
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He's missed a couple golden chances.hecko posted:Not like he has anything to do this weekend. He said he'll spend a couple of days in BA and come back to England to start negotiating his transfer. True, I'll just never understand his globetrotting. But I guess he has the money to own a private jet.
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Might not have been as high scoring as Boca's previous Libertadores games, but was certainly exciting. Flu's definitely happy to only come out of that 1-0 down though. Tuning into Velez/Santos now. They're busting out the leaf blowers to deal with the confetti
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Velez deservedly 1-0 up at halftime. They're pressing with a lot of effort while Santos looking half-hearted (1 shot the entire half). Santos are being totally wasteful in possession. Velez's goal was a real nice flicked header over the keeper. edit: Game ends 1-0 to Velez. They played well and had some great chances to increase their lead, but they were all too close to the keeper. Santos still looked lackadaisical. Elano got so frustrated with the lack of shots, he tried to pull off an olimpico. He got it on target, but the keeper touched it over the bar. Vinestalk fucked around with this message at 04:03 on May 18, 2012 |
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Penarol's second goal looked pretty sweet.hecko posted:Lucas Viatri scored in his first game after after 7 month because a knee injury. That goal's pretty amazing, especially for a guy coming off a knee injury. Just no hesitation there.
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Would be such a step down for Forlan, if true. He could totally find a better team elsewhere. Mineiro are so dire right now, depending on a bunch of loan players and Jo. By the way. Libertadores tonight. Boca @ Flu (6:30PM EDT) and Vasco @ Corinthians (9PM EDT). Boca and Corinthians favorites to go through (Although Corinthians just came off a loss and Vasco came off of a win in Serie A). Should be a pair of interesting games.
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For comparison: Sao Paulo finished 6th last season (4 points behind 3rd place) while Mineiro finished 15th (4 points above relegation zone). Might be a weird fit for Sao Paulo. They love playing 5 midfielders behind Luis Fabiano with Jadson coming in from midfield. When it works, it works, but their midfield can be uncreative sometimes ( Denilson). But Forlan and Fabiano up top would be pretty cool to see, especially with Jadson in the hole behind them. It's not exactly what they need to start really challenging, but it could be one of those pieces that makes things click a little better. Seems unlikely that they'd make a move (or change formation), though. They have a line of young strikers behind Luis Fabiano.Can only see Mineiro as a terrible idea. I totally agree that will score goals, but those goals would be wasted there.
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That I did not know. I didn't see him play at Inter, but I always thought he wasn't playing from that far back for Atletico Madrid. I knew Aguero led the line there.joepinetree posted:I don't think that matters. Pretty much every Brazilian team right now is a bunch of loan players, young promises, and has beens. Flu went from 1 point above the relegation zone in 08 and 09 to champions in 10, Vasco was 7 points from relegation in 10 and runners up in 11, and conversenly cruzeiro went from runners up in 10 to 2 points above relegation in 11. By that same token, do you honestly think Mineiro are on the up and up? They've been mid- to low-table since they got promoted in 2007 and investing money/time on Forlan wouldn't greatly improve either of their situations. They have bigger problems, like the amount of goals they concede. They usually get about 50+ goals a season, so scoring hasn't been that big of an issue.
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Fair points, but even then it's a two way street. Mineiro might love the idea of having him, but that doesn't necessarily mean he'd be willing to play for them. And I'd be incredibly surprised if Mineiro were the only Brazilian (Or even South American) club willing to put in an offer for him.
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I sat and laughed at that gif for a good couple of minutes. His face is just the most ridiculously animated thing in the world. For those that missed it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5c0N0cu-cY And yes, he does headbutt the corner flag. Addendum: Eder Luis is a terrible, terrible player. Vinestalk fucked around with this message at 02:39 on May 24, 2012 |
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Corinthians manager, Tite, just sent to the stands by the match official. This all brazil tie is cagey to say the least. Edit: And Corinthians gifted Diego Souza a straightforward 1-on-1, only to go wide of the post. Vinestalk fucked around with this message at 03:25 on May 24, 2012 |
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Would have been interesting to see what would have happened to their formation if Joaquin Boghossian continued his development. Looked amazing for half a season in Argentina. Corinthians advance. Paulinho headed in a late corner kick. Sad times, but it was the expected result. Edit: My guess is Santos and La U to advance tomorrow. Velez @ Santos is the early game (7PM EDT) and Libertad @ Universidad is the late game (9:30PM EDT). Vinestalk fucked around with this message at 04:04 on May 24, 2012 |
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Going to be 16 total. 10 from CONMEBOL with 6 from CONCACAF. Don't think Caribbean teams will be invited. My guess is it will be Canada, US, Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, and Costa Rica. Who gets invited to PanAmerica will probably be based on commercial potential (based on what the CONCACAF president said in February). Edit: The weird thing might be one of the Central American teams gets bumped for Japan. I don't really get it, but they've been invited to a couple Copa Americas before and they've already been invited to 2016. Vinestalk fucked around with this message at 00:13 on May 25, 2012 |
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Straight red for Velez's goalkeeper for impeding Neymar. Cue Santos goal storm. Edit: Eating my own words. Velez keeping some good shape. Audacious kick from just inside Santos' half almost caught the Santos keeper sleeping. Edit 2: Santos might have been robbed of a penalty there. Looked like he tackled Renteria's plant foot. But German Montoya is playing an amazing game... Until Alan Kardec placed that shot perfectly 1-0 Santoshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APr2k9NuRME Vinestalk fucked around with this message at 04:14 on May 25, 2012 |
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Did not expect either of those games to go to penalties. Feel kind of bad for both losers, because they fought real hard in their second leg games. Boca v. La U Corinthians v. Santos Think Boca can pull off #7?
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Really don't want Neymar to win it. Got nothing against Santos, but Neymar is just such a petulant tit.Dias posted:Grêmio Was a scrappy as hell game, but Gremio came out on top! Palmeiras game will be interesting, for sure. Kind of expect Sao Paulo in the final. They're looking at Copa do Brasil as their ticket into Libertadores next year, unless they get lucky on a signing or two before the Euro deadline. It must be scary as poo poo knowing Gilberto Silva is lining up as a CB in your defense. The guy barely had legs to run with when he left Arsenal 4 years ago.
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ESPN just did a write up on the Flamengo/Ronaldinho situation. It's pretty hilarious: Link. Here are some highlights: quote:To lure Ronaldinho to Rio in the first place, Fla had established a partnership with Traffic, a firm that invests in the economic rights of many players in Brazil. In return for paying three-quarters of Ronaldinho's £400,000-a-month salary, Traffic were allowed to take control of his image rights and set up sponsorship deals. quote:But Luxa's patience ran out in January. He suspected nocturnal antics at the club's pre-season training camp, to the point where he began to trawl through CCTV footage, looking for evidence that Ronaldinho was sneaking a woman into the team hotel. He never found the proof but remained convinced of the midfielder's guilt. And, supposedly, Flamengo owes Ronaldinho $18.61 million and he's free to sign for another club. Betting he'll stay in Rio and would be ridiculously bad/funny if he joined Flu.
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Jun 1, 2012 11:43
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