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~Coxy posted:weren't most CD-ROMs back then SCSI even on the PC side of things? scsi cdroms were always rare and expensive. you found them on unix workstations and like $25k macintoshes and that's about it really early PC CDROMs used proprietary busses. later ones used IDE/PIO or ATAPI. they still used SCSI-like commands, but they weren't SCSI electrically and didn't have SCSI-grade brains. at no point was scsi like, a default choice, unless it was an external CD-ROM in an enclosure
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PCs were always kind of a hack job every kind of device had a SCSI spec to fit it: SCSI tape, SCSI floppy, SCSI CDROM, SCSI zip drives and then every fuckin device type had some wretched hack to connect it to a PC on the cheap: tape drives hooked to floppy busses, CDROMs controlled by IDE/PIO, parallel zip it's kinda weird to think there was a time when the interface card could cost you as much as the peripheral you plugged into it. USB and firewire and eSATA have spoiled us with cheap ports.
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JawnV6 posted:i remember a cd drive that had a plastic caddy to hold the disc so you could get sickkkk speeds like 5x caddys were not for speed. they were intended to be semi-permanent enclosures to protect the disc from handling. if you paid $300 for a CDROM encyclopedia, or $2k for a library database, you really wanted to protect the disc notably audio CDs never had any kind of a caddy setup. nobody really worried about damaging a $20 audio CD while putting it into the transport
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Install Windows posted:that was immaterial anyway, since no cd drives were going to exceed the throughput of even a slow connection method back then it was a really big deal for cpu usage and interrupt load. a pre-ATAPI, non-SCSI CD-ROM would just lock up your PC solid while the disc was being read. ...which is how we started this. FMV games had lovely video because they had to stream off the discs with terrible constraints
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Sniep posted:the best solution for this, especially for public handling type situations (libraries, school computer labs, etc) that was better than caddies was those in jr high i vaguely remember towers of external CDROMs, such that there would be a separate drive for each disc, somehow tamper-resistant to prevent you from taking the disc. but that was a long time ago. i can't really picture it exactly
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Install Windows posted:idk we had a special sound card cd rom drive and it didnt have any cpu hogging problems. some creative sound blaster combo thing. yeah it was either scsi or atapi also cdrom drives always had the ability to play audio data independently, no host cpu involvement. which is how video games had cd sound tracks without sweating the cpu
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flyboi posted:my first burner was ide on my p133 and back then buffer underrun protection didn't exist so if the drive went faster than the computer you got a coaster by the pentium era the buffering problem was mostly a software problem. blame windows. not kidding. "client" versions of windows deliberately tweaked the scheduler to favor the foreground process, even if something v. important was happening in the background if you had used the exact same hardware under linux/bsd/solaris it would have worked fine i do not miss that era one bit
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Sweevo posted:an original pc was something like $3k for 64k, one 360k floppy drive, and a cga card. by the time you'd added a ram upgrade, hard drive, monitor, etc it could easily cost $10k+. and thats 1981 dollars a base model IBM PC was $1,565 in 1981, and unlike every home computer at the time, it had an 80 column display, the minimum for business use. this was a screaming deal. you could easily spend $1500 on a dumb terminal in 1981, and here comes an IBM PC that is both a minicomputer AND a fully capable terminal. who cares if it's bloody slow and has miserable I/O, holy gently caress, it's a business computer on my desk
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the 80 column thing cannot be underestimated btw. all home computers, like apple ii and commodore 64, had 40 column displays can't write cobol can't use it as a unix terminal can't use it as a dec terminal can't use it as a mainframe terminal just useless. ibm pc was the first inexpensive computer to do anything useful
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~Coxy posted:"the original PC proved too expensive for the home market. At introduction, a PC with 64 kB of RAM and a single 5.25-inch floppy drive and monitor sold for US $3,005 ($ 7,716 in today's dollars), while the cheapest configuration (1565 US$) that had no floppy drives, only 16 kB RAM, and no monitor (again, under the expectation that users would connect their existing TV sets and cassette recorders) proved too unattractive and low-spec, even for its time" yes it was too expensive for the home market. it was still a screamingly good deal and lit the world on fire. as it turns out home users are not the primary market for personal computers. who knew? that's only half-sarcastic. in 1981, nobody knew that personal computers would be a big deal in business. having a terminal on your desk, or better yet, your secretary's desk, was the normal model. having a personal computer at work with local i/o and local processing was a really strange idea but it took off in a big way
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in a way business PCs adopted the pricing made popular by SaaS in the 21st century a lot of SaaS is sold on the basis that the initial price is so low, individual managers will either pay out of pocket or use their individual budgeting ability to purchase the first few seats of salesforce.com or whatever the IBM PC was so cheap that individual managers in the early 80s could afford to purchase one for their individual or departmental use, without any higher authority approving it
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flyboi posted:basically what makes commodore 64 or amiga not euro trash because i have yet to see it after years of trying out random disk images it was euro trash but it had the best ports of euro games so i guess if you like euro games from the early 90s you're all set
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Install Windows posted:and thats why this happened the main thing to notice here is that the other home computers didn't immediately dry up and blow away ibm pc is adding to the size of the stack. it was a brand new market unto itself. an inexpensive computer that did things other than play vidya games
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Sham bam bamina! posted:every powerpc "amiga" enthusiast is a furry and you know it. if you keep a ppc "amiga" at home, furry is the least of your problems. in the year 2013, people will spend thousands of dollars to get an 060/ppc combo system. deranged people. usually european. i found out about this because there is some cross-polination between antique-unix-poo poo crazies and amiga crazies. at least my shameful unix collecting hobby doesn't involve fetish porn.
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flyboi posted:im not that stupid i didn't buy an ouya did nvidia shield even go to production?
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Al! posted:dont they already make these stupid loving things it appears that their only advantage over competitors past and present is "this time we'll convince peolpe it's safe!!!" sorry you're never going to talk people into thinking 6" leaf springs on their heels are safe
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hubris.height posted:http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/atlass/ultrachic-organic-bamboo-women-apparel-made-in-mon?ref=recently_launched i'm told bamboo fabric makes great towels. who wouldn't want a dress that is excellent at wicking moisture
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it's powered by shitposts and the exhaust is natural gas inexplicably it reverses entropy
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Dead Inside Darwin posted:i went out of my way back in the day to get a cartridge-loaded SCSI CD-ROM in college i knew a dude who was obsessed with scsi. he had like 11 scsi hard drives in his pc. running some esoteric UNIX and covered in anime poo poo of course all his drives were like 500 MB or 850 MB or whatever because he could only afford used equipment. i knew about this because he naturally told everyone he met i think i had more capacity in a single, lovely IDE disk than his entire tower of crapola
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Install Windows posted:it used to be that you could get used SCSI hard drive arrays from companies for super cheap thats probably why. like getting em for 4 bucks a drive this is longer ago, when those would have still been in prod. nope he just had eleventy different-size scsi drives, all small/bad my personal moment of scsi shame was later on, when those hard drive arrays got cheap. i came *this close* to pulling the trigger on like 50x 9 gigabyte fibre channel drives. thank god i got "smart" and built a raid array out of 80 GB IDE instead, the electrical for FC would have broken my balls
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flyboi posted:scsi was the poo poo especially full height hds these are faster than you expect because you can do lots of parallel seeks with so many platters
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Migishu posted:Christ, I'm sure it's easier to build one by yourself for a fraction of the cost it might very well be very often mass production of electronics is not actually cheaper per-unit. especially after you include the fixed costs. it just lets you poo poo out more units faster it may literally be cheaper to pay a bunch of canadian engineers to assemble prototypes with hand soldering in a workshop, but they can only make 100 of them before they all hang themselves because manufacturing sucks
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Posting Principle posted:http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jaytholen/dropsy wikipedia posted:Edema (American English) or oedema (British English) (/ɪˈdimə/; from the Greek οἴδημα—oídēma, "swelling"[1]), formerly known as dropsy or hydropsy, is an abnormal accumulation of fluid in the interstitium, which are locations beneath the skin or in one or more cavities of the body.
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dur posted:i just remembered where i'd heard dropsy before and here we can see forums superstar "dur" demonstrate his rockin' disregard for "reading" "threads"
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:here's a kickstarter that's actually a good idea (if not a good idea, at least a laudible idea) it's a bad idea because no one wants to think about rape when they're getting dressed up for a night on the town no one would buy/wear it i'd be horrified if it gets funded. you know the only potential market is twisted, jealous redditors buying special rape-resistant skirts for their girlfriends then intimidating them into wearing'em
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:nerds dont care about rape or think it isn't a real issue so while this project actually has its heart in the right place, it's wallowing at 5k funding its heart is definitely not in the right place it encourages women to think about sexual violence every loving day, as a totally normal event that requires affirmative defense. this poo poo is loving disgusting. it's just an extra-sexist variant of kickstarters for clothes/wallets with special tacticlol gun holsters.
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:women getting raped is a totally real issue that they actually have to deal with and worry about every single day. women cant go out jogging after daylight hours because it's loving dangerous. women can and do go out jogging after daylight hours. so far as i know they generally don't wear rape-resistant underwear or carry firearms to do it, either notably i don't live in a 3rd world shithole
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:needing a tactical weapon to defend yourself from the government/blacks/whoever is an imaginary issue for racists and crazy people needing rape-resistant underwear to live life as a woman who occasionally leaves her house is an imaginary issue for crazy people who imagine they live in 6th century arabia
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Cerv posted:gross nerds on the internet have re-invented the chastity belt? kevlar chastity belts, no less it's the new, hip way to intimidate women and promulgate rape culture. be a cool and modern gatekeeper for your special lady's libido
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:what would the stretch goals be?? omitting the "chemical" part
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:this is really not at all the same thing as a chastity belt. please explain to me how the rape-prevention underwear marketed to internet males is "Not at all" the same as a chastity belt
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:because it's not marketed to internet males? and a chastity belt is specifically made to make a man the gatekeeper to a woman's vagina, this is not at all designed to do that? chastity belts worked the same way the point is that you do it to yourself
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ulilileeloo dallas posted:kind of dumbfounded that you loving spergs actually think this is marketed to males and is a chastity belt to be inflicted upon women. you can push against the brick wall of trying to teach men not to rape all you want--someday i do hope we make progress on that front, but as long as it's still happening, explain to me why exactly it's a problem for a woman to be aware that she may be entering into a risky situation and to take precautions? jesus loving christ you people. if she wants to carry mace, or a whistle, or wear these magic underpants to make herself feel safe and confident then why shouldn't she? because somehow her awareness that it can happen and does happen every day is somehow HER perpetuating rape culture??? are you loving retarded? lol
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flyboi posted:please dont turn this into a tumblr meltdown thread tia closed: wontfix working as intended
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ulilileeloo dallas posted:the 1/3rd that aren't acquaintance rapes. hth. so, risky situations like being a woman in public
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you know what the most rape-resistant club attire is? a burqa makes you think
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TOOT BOOT posted:kickstart my new kegel-activated cigar cutter $100 or more gets you the kegel cutter: clinton edition
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Dead Inside Darwin posted:youre a huge piece of poo poo jfyi a something awful forums poster who unironically endorses chastity belts called me a piece of poo poo this stain, this tarnish, is something i may never live down
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:i would like it if there were a term that meant what sperg means without referring to an actual disability many derogatory terms come from medical language referring to actual disability imbecile moron idiot retard
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