Chess Thread: You was doing PIPI in your pampers

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WorldIndustries: Dec 21, 2004

Somehow I'm interested in learning chess again despite never really getting past the newbie stage. I'm basically at the layer 1 where I'm trying to develop my pieces without hanging any, but also walk face-first into forks and wind up losing pieces anyway.

I'm trying to start by learning more endgame patterns as well, because nothing tilts me more than being up a few pieces and then misplaying in the endgame.

Is there a goon chess discord or anything of the like?

# ¿ Aug 31, 2021 00:41

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# ¿ May 18, 2024 14:45

WorldIndustries: Dec 21, 2004

I'm very bad and working through a lot of instructional material already, but I was hoping I could get some advice on specifically what to do in the endgame when I'm up a knight. I was trying to focus on getting rid of his pawns but was mostly playing re-actively, and obviously with some huge blunders everywhere. I think I'm mostly look for general advice on how to be thinking about the game when it gets to like move 30 in this position. Also I should probably not play 15+10, I've been doing much better at correspondence when I can think through my moves.

I'm playing white, blunders everywhere of course but I think I understand the early and mid game ones better than endgame approach:

code:

1. e4 { [%clk 0:15:00] } 1... d5 { [%clk 0:15:00] } 2. Nc3 { [%clk 0:14:55] } 2... d4 { [%clk 0:15:07] } 3. Nb5 { [%clk 0:14:32] } 3... e5 { [%clk 0:15:01] } 4. Nf3 { [%clk 0:14:27] } 4... Nc6 { [%clk 0:14:47] } 5. Bc4 { [%clk 0:14:17] } 5... h6 { [%clk 0:14:52] } 6. d3 { [%clk 0:13:39] } 6... Nf6 { [%clk 0:14:55] } 7. O-O { [%clk 0:13:27] } 7... a6 { [%clk 0:15:02] } 8. Na3 { [%clk 0:12:50] } 8... Bb4 { [%clk 0:14:38] } 9. c3 { [%clk 0:12:25] } 9... dxc3 { [%clk 0:14:44] } 10. bxc3 { [%clk 0:12:33] } 10... Bxc3 { [%clk 0:14:49] } 11. Rb1 { [%clk 0:11:31] } 11... Nb4 { [%clk 0:13:00] } 12. Bd2 { [%clk 0:11:12] } 12... Bxd2 { [%clk 0:11:50] } 13. Qxd2 { [%clk 0:11:19] } 13... Nxd3 { [%clk 0:11:58] } 14. Bxd3 { [%clk 0:11:11] } 14... b5 { [%clk 0:11:39] } 15. Rfd1 { [%clk 0:10:00] } 15... Nd7 { [%clk 0:11:18] } 16. Nh4 { [%clk 0:09:10] } 16... O-O { [%clk 0:11:20] } 17. Nf5 { [%clk 0:09:03] } 17... Nc5 { [%clk 0:10:07] } 18. Rb4 { [%clk 0:07:43] } 18... Nxd3 { [%clk 0:10:03] } 19. Qxd3 { [%clk 0:07:50] } 19... Qxd3 { [%clk 0:10:11] } 20. Rxd3 { [%clk 0:07:59] } 20... Bxf5 { [%clk 0:10:19] } 21. exf5 { [%clk 0:08:07] } 21... f6 { [%clk 0:10:26] } 22. f4 { [%clk 0:08:04] } 22... Rae8 { [%clk 0:09:53] } 23. Nc2 { [%clk 0:07:12] } 23... c5 { [%clk 0:09:19] } 24. Re4 { [%clk 0:06:42] } 24... exf4 { [%clk 0:09:19] } 25. Rxf4 { [%clk 0:06:44] } 25... Re5 { [%clk 0:09:11] } 26. Ne3 { [%clk 0:05:53] } 26... Rfe8 { [%clk 0:09:07] } 27. Nd5 { [%clk 0:05:30] } 27... Re2 { [%clk 0:09:00] } 28. Ra3 { [%clk 0:05:05] } 28... c4 { [%clk 0:08:23] } 29. Rxa6 { [%clk 0:04:57] } 29... b4 { [%clk 0:07:47] } 30. Nxb4 { [%clk 0:04:44] } 30... c3 { [%clk 0:07:52] } 31. Rc6 { [%clk 0:04:47] } 31... Rd8 { [%clk 0:07:32] } 32. Rf2 { [%clk 0:04:12] } 32... Rd1+ { [%clk 0:07:38] } 33. Rf1 { [%clk 0:04:10] } 33... Rxf1+ { [%clk 0:07:43] } 34. Kxf1 { [%clk 0:04:19] } 34... Re5 { [%clk 0:07:31] } 35. g4 { [%clk 0:03:17] } 35... Re4 { [%clk 0:07:28] } 36. Nd5 { [%clk 0:02:49] } 36... Rxg4 { [%clk 0:07:29] } 37. Rxc3 { [%clk 0:02:53] } 37... g5 { [%clk 0:07:25] } 38. Rc8+ { [%clk 0:02:13] } 38... Kf7 { [%clk 0:07:20] } 39. h3 { [%clk 0:01:57] } 39... Ra4 { [%clk 0:07:15] } 40. Rc7+ { [%clk 0:01:31] } 40... Ke8 { [%clk 0:07:07] } 41. Nc3 { [%clk 0:01:35] } 41... Ra5 { [%clk 0:06:53] } 42. Ke2 { [%clk 0:05:37] } 42... Rxf5 { [%clk 0:06:59] } 43. Rh7 { [%clk 0:05:15] } 43... Re5+ { [%clk 0:07:05] } 44. Kd3 { [%clk 0:05:20] } 44... f5 { [%clk 0:06:53] } 45. Rxh6 { [%clk 0:04:59] } 45... Kf7 { [%clk 0:06:37] } 46. h4 { [%clk 0:04:32] } 46... gxh4 { [%clk 0:06:43] } 47. Rxh4 { [%clk 0:04:40] } 47... Kf6 { [%clk 0:06:47] } 48. Ne2 { [%clk 0:03:27] } 48... Kg5 { [%clk 0:06:31] } 49. Rf4 { [%clk 0:02:58] } 49... Re4 { [%clk 0:06:33] } 50. Rf2 { [%clk 0:02:34] } 50... Ra4 { [%clk 0:06:39] } 51. Ng3 { [%clk 0:02:08] } 51... f4 { [%clk 0:06:41] } 52. Ne4+ { [%clk 0:02:09] } 52... Kg4 { [%clk 0:06:41] } 53. Nf6+ { [%clk 0:02:04] } 53... Kg3 { [%clk 0:06:48] } 54. Rd2 { [%clk 0:01:57] } 54... Ra3+ { [%clk 0:06:55] } 55. Ke4 { [%clk 0:02:00] } 55... Re3+ { [%clk 0:07:02] } 56. Kf5 { [%clk 0:02:03] } 56... f3 { [%clk 0:07:08] } 57. Ng4 { [%clk 0:01:59] } 57... Re2 { [%clk 0:07:12] } 58. Rd1 { [%clk 0:00:56] } 58... Rxa2 { [%clk 0:06:58] } 59. Rg1+ { [%clk 0:00:37] } 59... Rg2 { [%clk 0:06:45] } 60. Ne3 { [%clk 0:02:58] } 60... Rxg1 { [%clk 0:06:47] } 61. Ke4 { [%clk 0:03:00] } 61... f2 { 0-1 White resigns. } { [%clk 0:06:54] } 0-1

# ¿ Sep 16, 2021 19:48

WorldIndustries: Dec 21, 2004

This is all fantastic, thanks. I think I missed taking his passed pawn at 31because I had tunnel vision on their rooks and my king. I definitely wanted to trade rooks to get down to just rook + knight vs rook but I'm bad at figuring out how to force a trade like that.

Should I have also tried to get my king out earlier? I've heard that's helpful in the endgame and have seen good examples, but again it's hard to apply to my own games when I feel like I'm on the backfoot (despite being up a piece!)

# ¿ Sep 16, 2021 23:13

WorldIndustries: Dec 21, 2004

Maugrim posted:

Man, Daniel Naroditsky is so drat good at explaining stuff. Levy (GothamChess) is entertaining but I feel like he doesn't explain his thought process as well and often moves too fast for me to follow so watching his videos doesn't do much to improve my game. On the other hand I've watched maybe three or four of Daniel's videos and felt my mind expanding each time. Just me?

Yeah I'm having the same experience, I've started going through the speedrun videos one by one and taking notes. He's super clear and concise and just has a natural teaching ability that always seems to be on.

# ¿ Sep 18, 2021 19:45

WorldIndustries: Dec 21, 2004

Helianthus Annuus posted:

code:
r3k1r1/1pp2ppp/p1bqp3/6Q1/3P4/2N2P2/PPP3PP/2KR3R w q - 6 17
is this a compact chess notation?

# ¿ Oct 2, 2021 02:50

WorldIndustries: Dec 21, 2004

As a beginner I've been enjoying just keeping one 24hr correspondence game going (maybe two max) and focusing on that. It's nice to keep notes as you go about what moves you considered and what you thought the opponent would do, and then revisit it all after the game with the help of the engine.

Then I play some rapid here and there but its so frustrating to make huge mistakes that I absolutely would have caught in correspondence.

The advice about keeping an eye out for unguarded pieces is huge. At first I wasn't monitoring that too closely but now i try to imagine them sticking out like a sore thumb. The other mantra that's helped has been to always check for checks, threats, and captures.

For the person who posted earlier, before you actually make your move, imagine see if your opponent has a check, threat, or capture on their next move. It's a pretty fast check and will help you leave pieces hanging as often.

WorldIndustries fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Oct 9, 2021

# ¿ Oct 9, 2021 20:18

WorldIndustries: Dec 21, 2004

Are there any good free databases of chess games similar to what you'd get with an advanced chessbase subscription? This book I have references a game but has a notation error so I can't follow along and I'm looking for the actual game (Vukovic vs Urban 2000 apparently.) Doesn't show up in chessgames.com or lichess.

# ¿ Oct 24, 2021 21:55

WorldIndustries: Dec 21, 2004

Carbolic posted:

Try http://caissabase.co.uk/?

Thanks! I didn't find the particular game in there but was looking for exactly this type of thing.

# ¿ Oct 25, 2021 06:08

WorldIndustries: Dec 21, 2004

former glory posted:

Reading Chernev's Logical Chess this am and this Lasker quote seemed like a really nice thing to remember:

In the beginning of the game ignore the search for combinations, abstain from violent moves, aim for small advantages, accumulate them, and only after having attained these ends search for the combination -- and then with all the power of will and intellect, because then the combination must exist, however deeply hidden.

I'm loving this book, every game is very instructive with lots of good advice

# ¿ Nov 6, 2021 18:59

WorldIndustries: Dec 21, 2004

jiggerypokery posted:

I really want like a curriculum. Like how Khan academy teaches maths but for chess. Chessable and chess.com etc are so open ended

I've been thinking about this as well. There are so many excellent free resources right now that I'm trying to plan how I study a little better, otherwise I'll just get distracted. Making sure I work through a bit more of Silman's Endgame course has been helpful and a bit like eating vegetables since I don't really like the endgame.

I'm trying to find analogies between this and self instruction of like a musical instrument where a teacher is mainly finding faults in technique that you aren't conscious of and laying out a sequence of material that will best help you progress.

# ¿ Nov 8, 2021 03:41

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# ¿ May 18, 2024 14:45

WorldIndustries: Dec 21, 2004

I also really liked the early parts of the Naroditsky speedruns for talking about general opening principles:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLT1F2nOxLHOcmi_qi1BbY6axf5xLFEcit

This is especially useful at low ratings because people often deviate from any standard opening after like 5 moves.
Eventually as the ratings get higher he starts assuming people know the openings by name but that's not for like 7 videos or so.

# ¿ Nov 25, 2021 19:36

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