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Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
I didn't even really mean corruption, I meant that wining and dining your supporters is a universal thing for politicians, whether or not the local laws support it. It doesn't become a thing as long as you stay friends with the right people, but if you have a falling out with one of them then suddenly the watchdogs are interested.

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Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

ErIog posted:

"We have concerns about foreign nurses being hired."
Where has this issue gone in the years since I have lived there, anyway? Anywhere at all?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Madd0g11 posted:

IIRC the first few batches of nurses that have went through the program only like a single digits percent passed. And of those even less stayed. A lot of people went back home fully trained.

Turned this up.
http://ajw.asahi.com/article/views/editorial/AJ201303300030

I guess they will wait for robots.
I figured they had eventually said no in one way or another. What old Japanese guy is going to be ok with being doted over by non-Japanese nurses?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

ErIog posted:

I agree with this, but the way you've phrased it is funny since a lot of old Japanese guys pay a lot of money to be "doted on" by non-Japanese ladies at various upstanding establishments that are legitimate places of business which follow all labor laws and treat their workers with respect.
Let me put it another way: what old Japanese guy, when they're old and weak, is going to want a young and able foreign woman in an effective position of power over them?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Protocol 5 posted:

From what I can gather having read discussions by actual medical professionals, a lot of the resistance is from Japanese nurses who don't want the competition which will bring down wages. There are a lot of incentives being offered right now for going through nursing training (educational subsidies, etc.), and they aren't going to give those up without a fight.
I thought there just plain weren't enough nurses, and not enough young people to become nurses in the future? I mean, especially with...well, we've been over the hard choices women have to make if they want a career.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

whatever7 posted:

Robot nurse, hurry the gently caress up Japan.
I'm sure there are a million of them just waiting to be shown at press conferences and maybe in one hospital somewhere for the sake of demonstration, and then that's it.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
Are there going to be any politicians left in Japan after they get everyone who wined and dined someone at a hostess bar?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Reverend Cheddar posted:

The Smile Party.
Somehow, Mac Akasaka has also wined and dined a campaign contributor at a hostess bar. Maybe whoever provides his costumes, I dunno.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Darth Walrus posted:

i'd like to learn more about Imperial Japan. Anyone know any good books on the subject, please?
Depending on who you ask, that's either a few specific times through Japanese history going back thousands of years, or it is ALL of Japanese history. Which do you mean exactly?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
In that case I misunderstood, I thought he merely meant the time when Japan had an emperor, which includes now. If you mean history from the 1860s to 1945 or so, I'm afraid I've forgotten the name of the textbook I read.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

hadji murad posted:

It's obvious when someone asks about Imperial Japan what they mean not a contest about who knows more. This isn't Reddit.
I'm sorry, it actually wasn't to me. I mean, it is now, but only in retrospect. It's been a long time since I studied this stuff so I definitely can't claim to have superior knowledge about it.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
I'm glad someone remembers this stuff better than me. All I remember is that there was a brief time in the early 20th century when it looked like Japan might become the first completely self-made liberal democracy in Asia, but those dreams were quickly dashed. Making a stable democracy when you're only a few decades away from feudalism is...hard.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Kenishi posted:

Its that time again! Time for the courts to tell politicians they are in office illegally. :v:

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/news/20141126_28.html
That situation makes me wonder what would happen if the US supreme court told congress that they were unconstitutional. Would they ignore it just as hard as the Diet is?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

pentyne posted:

Good news!

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102265970


Also


Setting records by an additional 6% of the electorate so resigned to Japanese "democracy" they don't ever bother to vote.

Check this out, a party in Hokkaido calls itself "support no party" (so the ballot reads "socialist party, democratic party, support no party....") and gets 100,000 votes, more than two other parties. I guess they didn't set any rules about the name of your party...

Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Dec 15, 2014

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
Also, is the lowest voter turnout in Japan yet really a similar turnout to usual elections in America? That is to say, even though they appear to be apathetic as hell compared to us, that doesn't translate into fewer people voting?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Zo posted:

:lol: US "disenfranchisement" A is not a good yardstick. In fact it is the worst yardstick
You don't have to be all smug when that's basically what I was saying.

This thread gets really smug sometimes.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
Are there Japanese people who actually like their government and would be shocked if they hosed something up? To the few Japanese people I know who care about their politics at all, it's all just the same poo poo with sometimes different names and faces attached to it.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
My boss back in Japan was always bragging to us that he was working 80+ hours a week. Bragging.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Berke Negri posted:

This is increasingly common in the West as well. Now of course whats working 80 hours a week, and what's working hours a week is another thing.
I've never encountered someone here who is proud of working late. It's always either "there's absolutely no way I can avoid this, but it's only this one time" or "drat, I should have planned my time better". I'm in the latter category usually.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
What I don't understand is, if the LDP is run off of old man rural votes and that's why they ended up so conservative, how does the mayor of the biggest, most cosmopolitan city in Japan ALSO end up so conservative?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
Yeah, if constitutional law mattered, they wouldn't be considering re-militarizing, and the diet would have been re-districted years ago.

edit: Oh and women wouldn't be discriminated against. Anyway I guess this is what happens when another country writes your constitution for you.

Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Feb 18, 2015

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Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

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hadji murad posted:

Social norms are followed much more than laws are.
I guess laws are only for when people don't follow social norms, and social norms are followed like crazy.

In class today, a Japanese student noticed gum stuck under her desk and freaked out a bit. Every non-Japanese person in the class was like "of course there's gum under the desk, there's gum under every desk of every school everywhere". I'm talking students from China, Taiwan, Brazil, Saudi Arabia, and Korea here.

Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Feb 18, 2015

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