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Nerdfights about Goku beating Superman up in this thread.jng2058 posted:Hormugants might, actually. Now a Ripper Swarm, on the other hand, that would be the perfect way to end him. Or a Necron, I suppose. Lexicanium posted:Whenever his killer takes even the tiniest moment of enthusiasm, pleasure, or satisfaction from besting Lucius, they will begin to change into him. Lexicanium posted:Hormagaunts have a deadly instinctual ability to hunt that needs little direction from the Tyranid Hive Mind. They are so single-minded in hunting that they will ignore personal injury and tiredness until they have run down their quarry. However their extremely fast metabolism will always drive them to constantly seek out new victims. 'Gants are intelligent in a "clever girl" kind of way, but I doubt they're capable of feeling any emotions apart from hunger - and they're always hungry. 
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Nov 29, 2013 18:43
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jng2058 posted:But if eating Lucius satisfies that hunger for even a moment then the Hormugant gets turned into Lucius. But they're not being satisfied by besting him, just from eating meat. This is easily the nerdiest argument I've ever had. my dad posted:But, but if the hive-mind feels joy? A giant, hive-ship sized Lucius, floating serenely in the void. Alternate answer: Hive Fleet Fabulous. 
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After all, the rippers are pretty much its teeth.
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Dec 10, 2013 13:47
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I guess the BL authors should go back and read the Nurgle part of Liber Chaotica, it's full of great fluff about how Nurgle is really the god of Despair and how that paradoxically leads to the cheerful demeanour of his followers and daemons.
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Dec 20, 2013 12:44
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berzerkmonkey posted:Yeah, but that doesn't make good 40K fiction. Bullshit. A loss of faith and a fall into despair followed by the desperate grasping for something to replace that lost faith is Lorgar's exact character arc. Turn up the grim and despair parts and add Nurgle's rot. Done.
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Dec 22, 2013 11:42
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Noctis Horrendae posted:Dunno where you heard its terrible. Arguably the best Heresy book and perhaps even the best 40k book IMHO. Whoah what is it like having such terrible opinions because FotE is dull as hell.
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Jan 30, 2014 12:46
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Baron Bifford posted:The Necrons, Nids and Tau were not around during the HH. I'd like to think that the Megarachnids were part of a first generation Hive Fleet that was just too crap to do anything in particular.
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Feb 10, 2014 14:02
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Improbable Lobster posted:It also has an Imperial Fists invading a Craftworld, an Imperial Fists captain that melted his skin off his hand so that he could scrimshaw his own bones and an Inquistor who had his memory wiped so that he could go through a rejuvenation process. From a few pages back, but the Imperial Fist with the Skeleton Hand means that it's in continuity with Space Marine 
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Feb 14, 2014 12:38
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berzerkmonkey posted:Alpha Legion is weird, because their armor color seems to vary depending on who is describing or painting them. GW never seem to have gotten a standard definition of AL armor down for some reason. Which is perfect.
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Mar 20, 2014 14:07
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Deofuta posted:Does anyone have some fluff regarding the Imperial Knights? What are they, who do they fight for, etc? Have you checked the 40k wikia entry? Seems pretty comprehensive. http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Imperial_Knight
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Mar 24, 2014 16:59
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FrozenDorf posted:Anyone remember the old GW-themed Bolt Thrower stuff? I can't be the only person who liked that... right? It's all about D-ROK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE1wSSZ-iFs We're so loud you wanna die Shake it up baby don't be shy We're so loud you wanna die go forth and amplify Here come the Noise Marines D-ROK is loving terrible
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Mar 28, 2014 15:28
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Shockeh posted:Betrayer is excellent in this regard; Potraying Angron as something apart from the 'lunatic' he's actually quite an interesting character, who has been fundamentally damaged by the Butcher's Nails. Without, maybe he'd have been another Gulliman. I think Angron-sans-nails would be more like another Russ - an honorable, post-human technobarbarian. The parallels are foregrounded in the confrontation between the Wolves and the Hounds/World Eaters.
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Shockeh posted:- Hurr Hurr Birmingham is the 'Black Planet' whoops we're a major corporation now and it's not cool to make racist in-jokes Uh.. you know this has nothing to do with race, right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Country
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Shockeh posted:Yeah, I know. As someone who lives an hour away from Brum; I'm aware that's the reason given. I don't personally believe it's not the only one they were implicating at the time. I'm still not sure where you're getting the "shocking reference to population" from, everything points to it being a joke about how crappy and industrial that part of the UK is. Lexicanum posted:Birmingham is also known as the Black Planet, as it receives almost no visible light from its system's sun. As a result, the planet receives few visitors, and its inhabitants have become linguistically and culturally isolated. Its technology is primitive compared to the rest of the Imperium, as the musket is still in use among the natives. I mean you're free to think what you want, but there's nothing backing it up.
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May 8, 2014 16:54
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Sandweed posted:The Emperor could have prevented the entire Heresy by telling some of his idiot sons about the webway project. "I need you to make sure my eighteen idiot rockabilly sons don't come anywhere near the office for the next two weeks. Drive them out to the galactic rim and leave them if you have to, just make sure they don't embarrass our business."
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PupsOfWar posted:I like Malcador because he's got so much swag. Malcador's just pumped up by some poo poo from a thrift shop.
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Jul 21, 2014 18:32
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Arquinsiel posted:They're "Marines". Naval Infantry. It only really comes up in Space Hulk, but boarding hostile ships is basically their whole deal. There's the boarding/assault sequence in Salvation's Reach (that does read a little like Abnett was told to advertise Forgworld uprgrade kits)
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Jul 27, 2014 12:32
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Cooked Auto posted:"Fuckin finally" was pretty much my reaction when I saw that in the BL newsletter. I really enjoy the Ghosts books, but I also wish they were coming to an end.
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Lincoln`s Wax posted:I couldn't get into the Gaunt series. Which ones did you read? Because honestly, you might as well skip ahead to Necropolis, then go back and read the first few later if you want.
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EyeRChris posted:The wild card being that Omega is secretly loyal and is actually setting resources and scenarios that he could betray and destroy his legion from within. He has his own faction of marines he trusts that are in on the con. People keep saying this, but where was it written about?
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vigorous sodomy posted:And books, but at least those lovely chapters are legit/canon. Sorry man, Blood Ravens are canon too. http://web.archive.org/web/20070209...lood-ravens.pdf
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Schneider Heim posted:Weaknesses: Rushed endings. His denouements are sheer falls from the climax. Little room for epilogues, too. Honour Guard has a literal deus-ex-machina ending which really threw me the first time I read it. I thought for a moment that I'd accidently skipped a chapter somewhere, but nope! Great book up til that point though.
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Shockeh posted:To be fair to Honour Guard, that's kinda the buildup for the whole Martyr piece - The Saint is actually real, and yes, she is a super-powered badass. It's not propaganda. Sort of, but they try to have it both ways. Gaunt specifically says that it wasn't a miracle, and that the mechanicum(?) built a giant psychic mechanism under the tomb that called to the faithful, which is.. weird. Why not have it literally be a miracle? It comes across as one anyway. Things sort of just happen, all the Infardi die, happy end. It's definitely the worst case of sudden-ending in Abnett's books.
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Arquinsiel posted:My view is that the book exists to introduce fething Cuu ( Sure as sure. 
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) and leave him fester for a while before he starts to be actively psycho.
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maev posted:The fact that any 'original' Traitor marine is still fighting in the 41st millenium, warp-time or no should be characterized more like that plague champion, who himself is a literal embodiment of inevitability and decay. How long can you actually keep fighting after ten millenia before not really giving a poo poo anymore about the Imperium which you left behind all that time ago? The Word Bearers have their holy crusade explanation, which is probably a big reason why they've maintained their cohesion and direction for as long as they have in comparison to other legions, but I'll be looking forward to ADB possibly expanding on the personalities of Chaos Marines and the effect of time and the warp on them more as the Black Legion series continues. There's a neat bit of fiction in one of the original Epic books about a Thousand Sons sorcerer going over his memories. He's been alive for so long that he can't contain everything, so he carefully selects what to remember, gives them an iconic representation and places them in a mental museum. All so he doesn't go completely mad from the pressure of 10,000 years of existence. EDIT: I went looking for this, and it's actually from the 2nd Ed Wargear book, the character is named Karlsen and his memory ritual "The Dark Communion" Gravitas Shortfall fucked around with this message at 13:11 on Sep 11, 2014 |
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Demiurge4 posted:Space Marines moved from elite armies capable of crushing entire empires in a matter of months or years to special ops teams, basically. In the 41st millennium crusades can take centuries since they are primarily fought by the imperial guard. See the Sabbat Crusade being several decades in. Also, the Legions were very deliberately broken up into far smaller Chapters just so that a betrayal on the scale of the Horus Heresy would theoretically be impossible in the future.
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I want to read Talon of Horus but gently caress buying a stupid hardback. These are trashy sci-fi gun porn books, they should be small paperbacks now and forever 
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PRESIDENT GOKU posted:But why would they want their legion to die? Or, even when their legion isn't even dying, they actively try to kill it? At least the 1K Sons are still a legion and not a few smatterings of lovely warbands like the emperors children or the night lords. Most of the Legion IS dead. Undead. Whatever. When most of your bros are just dust zombies in power armour, some angst is understandable.
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Nov 23, 2014 13:02
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Demiurge4 posted:What do you guys think? Sounds dumb as hell tbh.
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Sep 9, 2015 23:29
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Just finished a re-read of SPACE MARINE and it is as batshit crazy and homoerotic as I remember. Also it's loving rad and should be required reading for any 40k fan
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Dec 14, 2015 16:48
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Kharn_The_Betrayer posted:Is that the one that mentions SPACE MARINES farting? Hell yes, also confessors sitting on pain cushions then crapping out the confessed sins, Chaplains drinking initiates' blood then crapping out jewel like objects of wonder, a Chaos sorceror licking poo poo off his hand, basically there is a lot of gross scatalogical weirdness in the book. Also - the brutal slaughter of feral humans who may or may not be innocents as a way of calming down pubescent SPACE MARINES Also - Masochism. So much masochism. Also - Squats. Lots of squats. Also - A MOTHERFUCKING ZOAT. It is an amazing counterpoint to WE ARE THE SACRED GUARDIANS OF HUMANITY, it is strange and baroque and pretty much insane.
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Pendent posted:It's already available from BL. Sort of a weird book, honestly. I don't see how some of it will mesh with the story in 40K. The important question is, does it condradict any of SPACE MARINE?
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Snollygoster posted:My understanding is: the alien superfriends want Chaos to burn out through humanity so the rest of the sentient galaxy is spared. Damon Prytanis, their agent, assassinates people through the history of Earth in furtherance of this goal. By killing Martin Luther King Jr., the larger universe becomes safe from Chaos because Dan Abnett is a good writer fart faaarrrttt. It's basic shorthand to show that the Cabal really, really doesn't have humanity's best interests in mind, come on man. EDIT: Unremembered Empire is not a good book though.
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Cythereal posted:I wonder what the Imperial Guard does with regiments from planets that have been subjected to Exterminatus like any units from Cyrene or feral-world regiments from Typhon. Gaunts Ghosts is the answer.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Are there any stories about exceptionally young space marines? Like scouts that are still in their teens? As always, the answer is; go read SPACE MARINE It is bugshit crazy and great, and follows three teenagers from hive-gang warfare through to induction, scout training and beyond.
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It's amazing how much of a drop in quality those first three Heresy books go through. By the end of the third one, previously complex characters might as well be twirling their moustaches and going "mwahaha"
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SRM posted:I think people really wanted a book more about Space Marines and less about spies and cartoonishly complex webs of lies and misdirection. Some folks also don't like Grammaticus. Went in expecting one thing, got something completely different, Alpha Legion af, imo
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D-Pad posted:I am about a third of the way through the 3rd Eisenhorn book after having no previous exposure to the universe. Are any of the PC games worth playing? Finally, how are Warhammer and Warhammer 40k related? Is one the past/future of the other? It's very heavily hinted in a few places (namely the old Liber Chaotica artbooks) that the Warhammer world exists within the Eye of Terror, and in the very first Warhammer editions, Chaos champions could find chainswords and other weird future weapons. They walked back from that later, then later still blew up the whole Warhammer world, so....
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Moose-Alini posted:I was excited about the rebels the ghosts are fighting until turns out they are all corrupted and mindless chaos thralls instead of freedom fighters. That's the kind of stuff I really want to see. Normal people with normal motivations in this horrible universe. Sorry, the opponents in all the books are chaos. Arguably, the antagnoist of the books is the brutal, uncaring Imperial war machine
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