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I am seriously giving thought that BL is about to give up on printed books or something the lines of that because thus shuffling about is kinda odd. According to some rumors I picked up elsewhere it seems they are going through some reorganization and are being split into two divisions, one being a digital one handling the digital rules for other platforms.
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Mukip posted:There was also the Warhammer Fantasy Storm of Chaos campaign which was even more of a clusterfuck, if anything. I don't remember all of the details, but the Chaos side got completely curbstomped in terms of stats, however it soon became apparent that the actual results were meaningless as Gav Thorpe had already written some terrible fiction to conclude the campaign. The good hero Valten was defeated in a duel against Archeon (WHFB's Abbadon) despite his side being ahead on points by a wide margin, but then an Orc warlord showed up and headbutted Archeon unconscious, for some reason, so everybody just sorta went their separate ways and nobody died somehow. And then Valten got assassinated in his sleep a day later. So bad. Oh yeah I remember hearing about those pointless after effects, one I remember which you didn't mention was the dwarven slayer king fulfilling his oath he took and was absolved of that whole mess but then oops one of his children or relatives suddenly died in the end battle and he decided to retake the slayer wow again. So utterly pointless. If anything the EoT stuff in the White Dwarf issues I have around that time was amazing. Not to mention they released a whole slew of stuff to let you play your own campaign as well. Which was kinda nice and don't think they've actually done it again. (I wonder why.  )
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Dog_Meat posted:Are you listening, GW? Considering the amount of HH stuff they do publish I say the listen very well.
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This becomes extra amusing (and groan inducing) since they have repeatedly stated that all BL ficition is canon. But yeah, that sounds like an extra dose of the stupid sauce and I'm also amazed no one actually bothered proof reading that. Or I guess they have one or two editors but they're either busy writing books (in the case of Kyme) or just generally attached to ADB or Abnett and they just can't be arsed to get any more.
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Aug 21, 2013 16:26
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bunnyofdoom posted:Half serious, but why don't any of us try out for their submission contests. I'm sure we could write some decent short stories at least. What I've heard as well it's pretty much what VanSandman said, those are pretty much just giant cases of Considering BL's push for more digital content I'm amazed they don't actually open up for more submissions and let those be digital only authors instead of turning their current writers stable into some kind of Chinese sweatshop of writing. Cooked Auto fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Aug 21, 2013 |
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Shroud posted:That's what got us Andy Zhou, you monster. Which I'm pretty sure would've have been prevented if they had some proper editors. Heck I'm still amazed he had the balls of doing it in the first place.
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Aug 21, 2013 18:36
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bunnyofdoom posted:Tl:dr He stole some guys Iraq War Memoires. If anything that's a great source of inspiration and to take ideas from. I mean for a story I wrote (a background story for a character that sorta spiralled out of control) I cribbed freely from both stuff like Generation Kill and Bad Company 1 and 2 as well as other sources. Don't think I've ever taken something word for word (or scene by scene perhaps) though when written, that just seems like one of those unwritten rules that you should just never ever break at all.
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Aug 21, 2013 22:20
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So I'm flipping through a catalogue from a Swedish Sci-Fi and Fantasy bookstore and to my surprise I noticed that Black Library is apparently going to re-release Nightbringer in October in paper format. As well as First and Only. Did not expect this at all. Of course the website says jack all about it which annoys me and perplexes me somewhat.
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Sep 12, 2013 14:38
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Schneider Heim posted:Abnett put up the cover of the First and Only re-release in his blog, so it must be legit: Dayum.  As much as I like the cover for the old pocket one that is pretty drat cool.Also interesting to see they are in fact doing a classic line. Now if they only would bother doing the same for all of their graphic novels/comics as well.
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Sep 13, 2013 14:44
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Arquinsiel posted:They've done it for a few. I keep meaning to get Deff Skwadron. Yeah that one I remember but there is still a bunch of stuff I've seen in the few copies of Warhammer monthly I've got I haven't really seen anywhere else. Then there was the time they just released on Kal Jericho collection before dropping their graphic novel collections completely. Almost glad they offered that one on Print of Demand, even if the actual books themselves are hilariously terribly written at times with the word voluptuous appearing way too many times to describe females characters.
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Sep 13, 2013 18:07
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So GW/BL announced the Classics line today and the covers for both Nightbringer and Trollslayer are pretty okay but the First and Only one is still probably the best one.
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Sep 20, 2013 21:59
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Nephilm posted:Isn't Nightbringer the first book of McNeil's Ultramarines Ventris series? Eeyup. Pretty much. But I guess it was one of their first so it constitutes a classic. v v
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pentyne posted:This is something I don't understand. Did GW just get lucky it signing ADB to write for them? Other then Abnett or Watson almost everyone else they've paid for material is mediocre to terrible (C.S Goto is a special kind of terrible I can't believe got a paycheck) Probably, the way I see it they have learned from their mistakes when it comes to authors and their quality and stopped trying to outsource them or looking for the cheapest alternative. As far as I can see it Goto's case was pretty much just him getting signed for a contract for three (or so) books and then give him a simple brief about 40k and let him do whatever. Only for them to go "Eeeh maybe that wasn't the best idea to do" after noticing the hate and ridicule those books got and they wasn't up to snuff to the level of quality they perhaps wanted to see. And then they tried a different approach with Henry Zhou only for that to fail spectacularly when it turned out that he had ripped off another book pretty much wholesale and probably just let his contract run for two books before they ended it. If you listen to the Independent Characters interview with Guy Haley he mentions he has a background in writing sci-fi so they are probably starting to scout after people with a lot more experience in that field than earlier. As for whoring themselves for a paycheck I think that stigma has kinda dropped away these days I think which means less authors really bother doing it. I mean a whole bunch of authors have gotten some fame writing franchise books if you look at Halo Expanded Universe and such.
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Nov 13, 2013 12:37
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Libluini posted:So I read Innocence Proves Nothing from Sandy Mitchell and I'm appalled. Actually there is one, Scourge the Hereic but it also ends on a pretty big cliffhanger if I remember right. But who knows, when the second edition of the Dark Heresy RPG comes out we might see a sequel. Most likely not. (All the characters in the book are the example characters from the Dark Heresy core rule book if you weren't aware of that already.)
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Dec 5, 2013 23:58
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Libluini posted:Scourge the Heretic was the first book, Innocence proves Nothing is the second. Also the Enslavers are only revealed as the source of the problems in book two, and since the Enslavers were what attracted me to the book in the first place, I think I wouldn't have had much fun with the first book.  Had the order of the books mixed up. I'd say read the first book anyway because it isn't that bad to be honest.
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Dec 6, 2013 02:01
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Aziraphale posted:Why is Eisenhorn so expensive? Because Black Library doesn't believe in cutting prices based on how long the book has been out.
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Shroud posted:Not to steal bunnyofdoom's thunder, but here's a quick glimpse of what he/she will be wading though: My only comment is: Holy Throne on Earth the prose. So dull.
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Jan 24, 2014 00:10
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Donnerberg posted:There's a constant barrage of micro earthquakes where ever Space Marines go. The impossibly deep base of their voice reverbs through the very fabric of space, like tectonic plates shifting through a tormented earth, like a glacier carving through a mountain, like the laughter of Michael Clarke Duncan. James Earl Jones or bust I say.  Groetgaffel posted:All the Chaosy dudes in Gaunt's Ghosts speak their own language. Which I recall from Sabbat World Crusades that it's essentially a massive hodgepodge of languages and dialects of all the regiments that joined with the Blood Pact and thusly make it sheer hell to decipher.
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Shroud posted:Also, didn't ADB say at one point that Ward was trying to to get him to include a Dreadknight in the novel? As I recall his answer could be summed up as "lol, nope". Considering there was/is a trend among BL books to include the next major kit in their stories regardless of how ill-fitting it may be I'm just gonna believe that story. For example, I recall hearing an review about the Ahriman books or some other book involving CSMs that Stormravens suddenly got mentioned out of the blue as well as mention of the newer Dreadnought model. Not to mention that Traitor General has the mention of the Hades drill. Even if it does fit a lot better there. That makes me wonder if the next IG codex is going to borrow stuff from that book considering Abnett starts slinging around terms like lasrifleman and such in it.
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Speaking of something completely different people if given the chance should really really read the old Obvious Tactics graphic novel as it is simply glorious. The plot and dialogue is just so amazingly corny and hammy that it's nothing but a joy to read.  Shame we'll never see it reprinted because it's hammyness goes totally against the current image of 40k as a grimdark universe.
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Baron Bifford posted:I'm personally waiting for someone to do an RPG where you play as an Inquisitor. That I think is about to happen with the second edition of Dark Heresy, where you already play Inquisitorial Acolytes. I recall hearing when 2nd ed was unveiled that one of the new things it was going to do was to letting you be able to play as an Inquisitor. Of course considering they scrapped 90% of their rules from the first iteration of the beta because of grognards I have no idea if this was saved or not.
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Baron Bifford posted:I meant a videogame. Mass Effect in the 41st millenium. Yeah well specify that then. FrozenDorf posted:I'm pretty sure playing as an Inquisitor was already enabled in 1E by the Ascension splat. Yeah but this would let you do it from the start apparently and perhaps not be as broken as I think that expansion turned out to be.
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Whenever the topic of GW graphic novels/comics come up I always recommend Obvious Tactics because of how balls out insane it is. Even if you have to put in some effort in finding it though.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:That is an astoundingly terrible name for a non-comedy book. Perhaps, but it still so utterly amazing because it doesn't take itself serious one iota and the dialogue is about four times as hammy as any other warhammer comic dialogue I've read. Such a fun read. In modern terms you could see it as a Deathwatch RPG campaign that just tries to ramp up the set pieces constantly and just making them more and more insane as it goes on meanwhile the players spout lines such as "Kill me? Kill me? ...No! For I am DEATH!" as they mow through hordes of cultists. So amazingly hammy and just the way 40k should be at times.
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Shadeoses posted:Oh, and replace the assault rifles with lasgun variants. You don't even need to know that since stubbers/stub guns aka normal bullet weapons is still a thing in the universe. Cream_Filling posted:I played that 40k: Storm of Vengeance game. It was boring as hell, and it mystifies me that they went from very protective of their IP to letting any second-rate shovelware mobile developer have their way with the setting. Because they suddenly remembered that games is popular with the kidz these days and that mobile games are really popular. Not to mention really cheap to develop too and don't take too long to make compared to letting a major studio deal with it which will racket up the costs and time since games development is a massively messed up industry. But yeah, not too keen on this game either.
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Mar 19, 2014 12:31
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I am sorta reminded of what Microsoft wanted to do with a Halo movie before they got pretty much laughed out by the movie companies since they had some insane requirements regarding budget and control regarding it. Problem here is that no one will actually laugh at them for their absurd demands since there will always be someone else who just shrugs and takes the money and does whatever half-assed product they're capable off and in the end it's the brand that suffers. Or to put it more blunty, GW execs needs to get their heads out of their asses and stop thinking it's still 2000. Hell, if anything I think Dawn of War helped them more than any of the later slew of awful mobile based games will do in making people aware of the hobby and really interested in it.
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Mr. Soul posted:I read GG up to Honour Guard and Necropolis was the only one I thought was worth reading. How many until there's another one that good? gently caress was it awesome. Not too far as I think Sabbat Martyr is right around the corner chronologically and it's pretty good from what I can recall of it and then Traitor General is pretty good as well. Can't really remember much of His Last Command and The Armour of Contempt but after that you do have Only in Death followed by Blood Pact. Salvations Reach while having a lot of good subplots and such has a rather meh main plot.
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bunnyofdoom posted:So, um, any word on Interceptor City? Somewhere after Abnett is done writing Horus Heresy books I reckon. Which is pretty much my estimate for his next Ghost book as well.
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Noctis Horrendae posted:Why Sweden? Why does it always have to be Sweden? Every time there's a rad as hell Space Marine suit, it's Sweden or Norway. Actually the guy is a Swede who lives in Norway according to what I could gleam from his DA profile so good job I guess. Also it's not like moving over here grants you costume making powers for that part.  If that'd been the case I'd probably be rocking a decent Guardsman uniform or something but lo and behold I don't nor do I really have the body for it either.
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Joe Videogames posted:You're a Scandinavian without a lithe body of corded muscle? Does not compute. I know right. Must be because I'm technically half german or something.
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ReV VAdAUL posted:Apologies if this gets asked a lot but is there any chance of the Gaunt's Ghosts novels, especially any of them after the first two anthologies, getting reprinted? Black Library repriting novels? Hardly. You simply have to wait for the next omnibus to come out somewhere in/after all the HH books. But you can if you want to buy an overpriced reprint of First and Only if you so want to.
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ReV VAdAUL posted:Welp, oh well. Thanks for the info. Of course I could be exaggerating as well and they do reprints in a minor fashion.
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I enjoy the Cain novels because with all the "raaaargh grimdarkgrimgrimdarkdark only war  " that keeps going on with the rest of the books it's refreshing to read something lighter in a sense and more entertaining occasionally as a palate cleanser.
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jng2058 posted:That and, like the Eisenhorn and Ravenor books, it shows more of the day to day lives of Imperial citizens. That one scene where Cain, a retired Guard general, a Sister of Battle, and a dude from the Administratum are playing space poker was one of my favorite scenes simply because of the ordinariness of it. My favourite part of that book was probably Cain discovering that the Administratum guy was sleeping with one of the higher rank Sisters of Battle and his reaction was just (I think) either being impressed by the guy or somewhat nonplussed.
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Fried Chicken posted:... A series I wish we would get more books of. Despite the fact the characters where just taken straight from the Dark Heresy rulebook it was still a really enjoyable read because Mitchell does casual and friendly banter so well. Love to see more when the second edition of the series rolls around but I doubt that sadly.  JerryLee posted:The mediocre and/or terrible writers all seem to have been part of an old guard that mainly got/retained their jobs due to being part of a good ol' boys club at GW. Most of them I reckon, although I could've sworn Zhou was brought in from elsewhere. I know via the ICs that Guy Haley was brought in from outside of GW due to some other sci-fi stuff he had written.
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vigorous sodomy posted:Why would a regular guy get personalized golden armor like that? Because he's Space Alexander the Great. That's why.
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Jun 27, 2014 19:42
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berzerkmonkey posted:In one of the recent WDs, Bill King said he went to BL with the intention of writing a story centering around an IG commander. Apparently Macharius was brought up, and so it kind of became a series about him. Which seems kinda lame on their behalf. "Eh, just make something up about that Macharius guy.  "Pretty sure you could do something decent about some other IG commander if you so wanted without having to really resort to using named characters for recognitions sake.
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Doesn't seem like it as a cursory google search doesn't really give me any other mention of books aside from the trilogy by King that's currently being published.
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berzerkmonkey posted:Seriously? What the gently caress? There isn't even any consistency within their series! Are they formatting their Ebooks on a supercomputer where they have to pay for processing time? Because that is the only legitimate justification for this bizarre pricing. The only other thought that springs to mind is that they are trying to curb piracy by charging so much for their Ebooks that people just return to paper. I'd just say it's the tech guys at GW being techpriests and not having a clue how the digital stuff really works. Or it's all an Alpha Legion plot.
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bunnyofdoom posted:Just shittily written. God, Desert Warriors is a terrible book. Frankly that entire series of IG books were kinda bad with the exception of Cadian Blood.
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