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Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Telsa Cola posted:

Its stated that he made it himself and its an exoskeletal arm, his arm is still there, its just super thin for illness/injury)

A key plot point will be resolved when he figures how to persuade the arm's machine spirit to rip off a chaos marine's head by screaming really loudly in the most anime way.

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Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Shockeh posted:

Although I do delight in Best Newcomer Druscher.

Druscher is basically a goon.

Incidentally as someone who was really confused with Pariah I felt that Magos really cleared a lot of things up.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Zasze posted:

This is kinda interesting now that cadia has fallen since Quixos was trying to create more pylons if i remember right.

He was trying to supercharge a facsimile pylon with psykers. He would probably have gotten a Blackstone Fortress warp cannon out of it rather than warp dampening pylon.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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MrNemo posted:

I don't think so because we saw the other cognitae goon had people eyes from exposure to enuncia but wasn't possessed. I think Eisenhorn is tainted by contact with the warp but still treading the line of full blown corruption.

I think its just warp exposure. Don't the Cadians have purple eyes as well due to their proximity with the Eye of Terror?

Cherubael did mention that he's terrified of Eisenhorn now, which does make you wonder though.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Any UK goons want some Cain books? I've got 4 of the original paperbacks and the hardback of 'The Greater Good'.

Happy to send them to you for postage cost otherwise they're going to the charity shop.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Demiurge4 posted:

There's some suggestion that the Emperor doesn't have any innate talents himself and his genius stems from the people around him. When he examines Angron he has the best Mechanicus expert in genetics and bionics come to his lab, but he doesn't actually do anything there, he just watches the Emperor. So my take on that is the Emperor needed him there because he doesn't know poo poo about what he's doing but he was able to channel his talents psychically in order to do the job.

As the Chaos Gods draw on their followers emotions the Emperor (as the god of humanity) draws on the communal power of humanity?

That sounds dangerously close to a hive mind and communism...

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Immanentized posted:

Which one was Rorken, Vaults of Terra?

Eisenhorn's boss. He's essentially a desk jockey and seems to have gone middle management vis-a-vis Eisenhorn who remained in the field.

One of his lackeys of a similar (managerial) bent gets chopped up by Quixos when he's sent to help Eisenhorn in the final fight.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Just read through The Armour of Fate short story and the opening with Gulliman struggling with being stuck in his armour is surprisingly tongue in cheek. Guy Haley did a really good job of writing about how having a gigantic power fist and a huge pair of wings and halo stuck on your back for years might perhaps become somewhat annoying. Also having itches he could never scratch.

He should write similar for one of the Chaos guys who is half fused to their armour.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Telsa Cola posted:

A better comparsion would be that RBs armor is basically a primarch sized terminator armor that functions as a dreadnaught.

Like I havent read the book but the whole I cant get out of this armor thing and it sucks is what dreadnoughts go through too. Its why a bunch of them freak out when they wake up or beg to not be put into the armor.

He eventually gets out of it though. He doesn't get out because Yvraine told him he would die if he took it off but then Eldrad was like "you might just get more emo since it's holding your soul together" and then he proceeds to strip..

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Schadenboner posted:

E: Also the Redemptionists in The Redeemer have a song: "Glory, glory, The Redeemer"?


Just realised that this is a riff of 'Glory Glory Man United.' (or any of the other related football songs)

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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PantsOptional posted:

Can’t tell if this is :thejoke: or if you honestly don’t know about the Battle Hymn of the Republic.

Until I wiki-ed the football chant and read it"s origins I can safely say nope, I'd never heard of it. Considering 40k"s roots and that of the comic I wager the author wasn't referring to the original Battle Hymn either.

Guy Goodbody posted:

He's British, if it's not related to soccer or the bakeoff they don't know about it.

I'm not British but way to go with the sweeping generalizations buddy.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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D-Pad posted:

Came here to post this. GW has really turned a corner. Who would have thought a few years ago they would do something like take the best fan made production guys and give them an animated show?

They should have gotten the Astartes guy to do it, that series has amazing CGI (all 2 minutes of it).

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Arcsquad12 posted:

Only as long as Titus refuses to opt for Primaris treatments and continues to be superb without the need for a power up

You know they're just going to use the Primarisification process as an excuse as to why he has to start from scratch and he's lost all his skills from the previous game.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Xun posted:

It's not really a book but the Mechanicus game is all about techpriests poking a necron tomb world with a sharp stick. It's supposedly a lot like XCOM in gameplay but I've never played XCOM so I can't really compare. I'm having fun though, and the writing seems alright? :v:

It's really good. It's similar but not entirely identical to X-COM, and the power curve is slightly out of whack. You have a bunch of Tech Priests who follow you from mission to mission, and are upgradeable with various weapons, mechadendrites, backpacks, special abilities. In addition, you have mooks which you tag along as your meatshields - these are the Skitarii, Kataphrons, Kastelans and Servitors. These guys can get upgraded as part of mission rewards, but they're essentially expendable. Unlike X-COM you don't have any action points, so as long as you have CP ('Cognition Points') to spend, you can trigger everything all your tech priests have loaded on them. Towards the end of the game your tech priests gain so many abilities that it's entirely possible to send one forward, chain buffs and set fire to half the map.

The writing is pretty good - it's written by Ben Counter so while not exactly War and Peace, it's still far and above what you would expect of a game at this price point. You have a committee of archmagi sitting on the battleship directing the team's actions, and all the usual tropes are pretty well represented. There's the Stygies magos who's all about Xenos Tech-Acquisiton = Good, You = Stupid, the Metalican grandpa who quotes random scripture and insists on burning everything, the Skitarii leader who worries about her troops etc.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Arcsquad12 posted:

Gaunt has more of a lightsaber than Eisenhorn and even then Hieronymus Sondar's blade is just a very very sharp power sword.

That can apparently pierce a dreadnought hellbrute chassis.

IIRC Eisenhorn chopped a Dreadnought in half in Thorn wishes Talon, and by Pariah he's developed a habit for bisecting Chaos Marines.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Sephyr posted:

Yeah, that was when the series went from Great to "Yeah, decent I guess" to me. As I see it, the only interaction an inquisitor has to have with a real chaos marine or any daemon above the crap tier is calling an air strike on the whole city, civilians be damned to make sure it's dead.

If they can be defeated mano-a-mano with just some cool trinkets and training, the whole concept loses force.

Unless it's a last stand situation and he's resorting to some dark, sanity-ruining ritual or device to deal with it because his orbital strike ship was taken over by Nids or something.

I think it's gone far beyond 'cool trinkets and training' when Cherubael, an actual daemon says its gone from mildly intrigued/irritated to being terrified of Eisenhorn. He's definitely done some strong poo poo and I think he's gonna sprout some horns soon.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Telsa Cola posted:

You are fundmentially misunderstanding the role of the Inquisition.

Part of the inqusitions original founding goal was to deal with the super bad poo poo because during the Horus Hersey it became super apparent that somebody needed to keep an eye on it.

Low level cults and poo poo get dealt with the PDF and the Eccesiarchy, given that its kinda one of the main things they look out for. Inquisitors can deal with them but if its so low level thats the kind of poo poo you can just task out.

Their whole shtick is that they are supposed to be detectives who theoretically have the training or the resources to deal with the big bads.

This gets played with a lot because then you have guys from the Ordo Xenos waaay over their heads when they relaize its not a genestealer infestation but just a poo poo ton of daemonic possesion and they have no idea how to deal with it because its outside their training.

Or they get dumped on the Interrogators. Some Inquisitors are lone wolves, others are more like franchise operators.

It's a shame we will never get a book about Inquisitor McDonald managing his network of interrogators spanning fifteen sectors.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Sephyr posted:

Not exactly. The PDF has no idea cults even exist. That would lead to way too many people being aware that Chaos is even a thing, which the Imperium takes HUGE pains to avoid because hey, one day PDF guard #544883 may be down on his luck, sick or in debt, and remember that the cult hideout he helped bust had some very nice stuff, loose cash, and weird symbols that made him feel all tingly. Certainly it wouldn't be too bad if he tried drawing one, getting a little help, upstanding guy that he is, right?

Even the ecclesiarchy deals mostly with keeping the worship of the Emperor unified and following rough guidelines. Other than the very top echelons, most of them likely are not even aware daemons exist. The 40K universe really is all about ignorance as a prophilactic.

The lower levels of the hierarchies do not bust "Chaos Cults". They break up recidivists, anarchists, heretics etc. We see heretic and think horrors beyond time and space. The average PDF sees "heretic" and thinks "40k Scientologist" - someone who isn't like them but without any supernatural connotations.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Anyone have a handle on The Strange Demise of Titus Endor? I read the book and am working through the audiobook now, but I still can't figure out what happened to the dancer. Was it being implied that Endor sacrificed her in his dementia?

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Miguel Prado posted:

Gaunt’s face works again??

Gaunt's face always worked.

Eisenhorn's face, now that's a good question.

Probably same way he went from "plodding around like a titan" to "performing leaping overhead chops capable of bisecting space marines."

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Syncopated posted:

Is Titandeath good? Mass titan combat sounds cool but I'm suspicious about Guy Haley.

It's pretty good. It's not subtle or full of mindblowing revelations but it's good giant robot porn delivered written competently.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Arcsquad12 posted:

You're right. I got the two mixed up. Zhou is also pretty bad most of the time.

Zou is uniformly awful. His work is sub-Fanfiction.net.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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D-Pad posted:

So the Viareggio Carnival in Italy had a Trump as god emperor float:



They burn these things at the end right?

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Arcsquad12 posted:

What are some good novels that show space marines from a normal human's POV? Traitor General has that great "oh gently caress oh gently caress" moment from gaunt and crew when they're up against three marines.

ADB is great for getting into the mind of an astartes, but I really want to see something where a guardsman or a civvie sees a marine rampage through a combat zone with inhumanly fast reflexes, pinpoint accuracy, and unnaturally fast movement for something wearing one and a half tonnes of armor.

Basically if Richard Boylan and the guy animating Astartes worked together.

The short story Kill Box is quite good. It's by Abnett and it features a Ghost being hunted by a bunch of Marines.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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SnakesRevenge posted:

They just say a prayer!

They read the ancient text of the "Haus of Tech Support" stating that firewalls were heretical.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Biplane posted:

it's specifically said that the kill was accomplished by astra militarum personnel on the ground though. please, let me live in hope

Who would win in a fight between Mkoll and Marbo?

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Pyrolocutus posted:

Is the stuff in the Black Library Celebration book expected to be released at a later date?

If you're in the UK your local GW will have some. I went in to look for one today and they were asking if I wanted 'a few more' since they had quite a few left over to get rid of.

I took an extra so if you're desperate I will ship it to you at cost?

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Senjuro posted:

A certain author who I don't want to get into trouble has sort of confirmed that Abnett will be writing the very last Siege book. Haven't read his more recent output, has he gotten better at ending properly? If any ending has to be done right, this would be it.

He closed off Anarch pretty well.

Magos was also done well.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Warthur posted:

Which sounds like an excellent reason why a Primarch other than Rootaboot might say "This is Not loving Right, I'm bringing back the Imperial Truth and overthrowing this abomination".

Embrace Chaos. Strangely apt if it's the Lion coming back.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Warthur posted:

Thing is, the Imperial Truth isn't embracing Chaos - it's a stance that Spirituality Is Evil, Religion Will Be Stamped Out, Stop Feeding The Warp.

If anything, a Primarch who still believed in the Imperial Truth's most natural allies are the Necrons.

I'm saying that if he plunges the Imperium into a civil war right when there is a gigantic warp rift in the middle of the galaxy and Chaos gribblies crawling out of every sewer, he's doing exactly what Chaos wants.

i.e. Chaos.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Plavski posted:

Keeble is doing a fantastic job on The Solar War so far. It's almost a given at this stage, but he's doing it proper justice.

There are some audio issues though, where the editing wasn't tight enough and previous takes were kept in instead of replaced so you hear him repeat a line with different emphasis or pronunciations. Might've been a bit of a rushed release as their quality control is not quite up to the usual very high standard.

I was wondering if my audio had stuttered when Sigismund called Boreas twice. Guess not!

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Arquinsiel posted:

This post reeks of somebody who hasn't read ADB or to a lesser extent Abnett C.S. Goto. i.e. the only books worth reading where everyone has a multilaser!

I've never read Goto but I bet you Zou was worse.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Arquinsiel posted:

He genuinely was not.

:stare: That is hard to imagine but I will tale your word for it.

Khizan posted:

Of course Zou wasn't worse, he was cribbing from a better author.

Mutilating is probably a better adjective for whatever Zou did. Who did he plagiarize?

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Demon Of The Fall posted:

Is Scarlet Johansson “voluptuous” enough for Kara Swole?

Christina Hendricks

And actor who did The Hound can be Heldane.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Schadenboner posted:

Kinda :smith: though. Roman Triumph Terror Bombing is much happier.

The Thunderbolts 9/11ing the titans is gonna trigger so many people.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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moths posted:

If we get Dredd the TV show and Eisenhorn at the same time, I'll basically explode.

They would essentially be the same though? Fischig is a Dredd expy.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Dog_Meat posted:

No, no... it'll be fine.

Episode one will have enough budget for a small 40k gunfight which will lead to Eisenhorn being catapulted back in time to modern day LA. After a hillarious misunderstanding he ends up an honorary member of the LAPD and has a will-they-won't-they relationship with a young woman detective as they go around solving crimes.

The only difference between Eisenhorn and a regular LAPD officer is that his victimssuspects expect to be shot without recourse to due process when caught.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:

Does the inquisition ever cast out one of their own? There are all sorts of references to people becoming “rogue inquisitors” when they fly too close to the proverbial sun and get hunted down, but they still call those people “inquisitors.” I guess maybe it’s like the marines, where once you’re in you’re in.

They can be officially "retired" - see the guy in Eisenhorn who had to give up his badge after he developed space-Alzheimer's. If they go rogue though there's nothing stopping them from flashing their badge and impersonating someone else.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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SpiritOfLenin posted:

The Inquisition really should have put some more resources into taking out Kryptmann after they kicked him out, I think.

I'm more surprised that the standard Inquisitorial pink slip isn't applied directly to the skull with an attached bolt shell.

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Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

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Just started reading the Cawl book and I can't get it out of my head that Cawl is the Tony Stark of 40k.

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