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Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

Fellblade posted:

I'm pretty sure it's more along the lines of if people complain and cry about characters dying then he knows he's done a good job of writing a character rather than some kind of malicious intent.

I meant it not as malicious but more as how Goons love a good joke kind of thing.

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Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

The Southern Dandy posted:

How Gorgutz Got His Gunz Back

I think we have a winner.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:
I finished Pariah last night and enjoyed it a lot.

I was happy when Medea and Nayl showed up but when I figured out that they were on Team Eisenhorn I was a bit sad. Eisenhorn has obviously gone off the deep end and it would suck to see those two taken down with him. Their loyalty is obviously going to be tested. When Kara was taking Beta to her holding room she was point blank about how far Eisenhorn had fallen. And right after refuting the thought of Eisenhorn consorting with his best buddy shows up and melts the wall. That pretty much validates Kara and Patience being grumpy.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:
Has the Black Library said anything about a fourth Gaunt's Ghosts omnibus being published soon? I'd like to move on to the stuff after The Lost but I'd rather not buy a bunch of single books over the omnibus.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

Mowglis Haircut posted:

Salvation's Reach has only just come out in paperback, so expect a wait. Year? Two?

Well nuts, my count was off. I thought Salvation was the fifth book since Only in Death.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

bunnyofdoom posted:

Um, isn't there only 2 books in the lost so far? Blood Pact and Salvation's reach? There has to be at least 1 more, if not 2 before the omnibus.

I checked online and it's "The Lost (2009): Traitor General, His Last Command, The Armour of Contempt, and Only in Death." That leaves Iron Star, Blood Pact, Sabbat Worlds, and then Salvation as single novels. So I guess we'll see a new omnibus when Abnett finishes the new Heresy book that is coming before the new Gaunt and Pariah series book.

God damnit man write faster. :argh:

-edit- efb.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

bunnyofdoom posted:

Iron Star is really a short story, and Sabbat worlds in a short story collection, and doesn't deal with the ghosts at al, so I would guess that neither would be in an omnibus for the Victory.

However, I was wrong on the lost name for it.

I always assumed they were full novels due to how they were listed in the wiki, my mistake.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

Emnity posted:

Finally picked up Pariah last night, only read the first 2 chapters to start with and currently really disorientated, it doesnt give a clear time-frame on where this is relative to the Eisenhorn/Ravenor books until the end of the second chapter when it references the 'cuff'.

The fluff and character normally associated with DA are all there, hoping it smoothes out over the next couple of chapters into the usual :immersion:

Be patient. It's setting up things and gets pretty awesome.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

Mikojan posted:

Yea I too am extremely disappointing I didn't get to read 300 pages of Eisonhorn and Ravenor shooting at each other.

But there is no bolter porn like Inquisitor bolter porn. :v:

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

Donnerberg posted:

I really like what they're doing with the cover for the Ravenor vs Eisenhorn trilogy. The metal art and the reflective red surface for Pariah is cool and all, but they run with that and make it even more badass for Penitent as I'm sure those of you who read Pariah have already seen at the back of the book.


Not a spoiler, just :rock:

I didn't even realize that the faces in the middle of Pariah were not mirrored before I saw that sketch and took a closer look on the original. Many goosebumps were had during this little discovery.

That is indeed some awesome artwork.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

ChrisAsmadi posted:

I too just finished Pariah, and I wonder if Eisenhorn has THE Alpharius in his warband or just AN Alpharius.

If he was the one then it would really show what side Eisenhorn was on.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

Schneider Heim posted:

Brothers of the Snake has a story like that. There's also one from Legends of the Space Marines about an ordinary boy helping a lone Marine, stranded in his world.

Reading some of the stuff about space marines past my initial exposure to them in the computer games and the few times they show up in Abnett's stuff is really eye opening. The fact that they can eat flesh and absorb memories and information? Holy poo poo that is crazy. The gland that lets them spit poison? I am probably forgetting the even more bat crazy stuff.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

Affi posted:

Yeah it looks that way. It fits though what with Alpha Legions possible hidden motives, their preferred modus operandi.. I .. Like that development. Also Pariah was definitely the best of the Abnett I've read. Just Eisenhorns confrontation with a traitor marine in the ecclesiary building.. brilliant stuff. And the Smiling One was suitably nasty.

I have one last question though. Why didn't Medea and Patience recognize eachother?

Medea semi-retired from Eisenhorn's crew by the time Ravenor came into the picture. Patience was recruited by Ravenor in his series of stories. So in as far as it's ever been shown Medea and Patience never interacted with each other. (I could be wrong though as I'm still new to WH40k)

:EFB:

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:
Codex: Spaceballs Marines.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:
It is too bad THQ is done. I enjoyed their WH40k games as well as their other titles like Saints Row.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

Mechafunkzilla posted:

THQ is a publisher, not a developer. Relic and Volition are almost assuredly going to be snatched up by one of the other big publishers.

True but who knows what a new owner would do to either relic or Volition. Better the devil you know than EA or Ubisoft.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

Emnity posted:

I think I need to read some of the Grey Knights stuff because since they were released not too long ago (hmm, maybe longer ago than I thought) I dont see them as they psyker killing rare specialists I did back at Rogue Trader/Second Edition, which was a lot cooler.

Regarding the Las-guns, like todays rifles there are a load of variations, alternatives, calibers and capabilities. I think in some of the books there were discussions about power settings (first book maybe) and different types of rifle, and ammunition (I think in one book they were issued the wrong clip type or something). This would allow for some variance but as is mentioned elsewhere 90% of the bad guys in Gaunt's Ghosts are cultists and other humans, not the marines and demons that would be shrugging off your las-fire on the tabletop.

I always pictured the las-locks as more like modern day sniper rifles, not semi automatic to reduce rifle twitch for precision shooting, but with it being a battery powered super flashlight that doesn't really add up and the single shot option maybe fits better.

Just about to start reading Legion of the Damned, have high hopes!

I always took the different styles in guns as inevitable drift in style and manufacturing that is bound to take place in such a big universe. And then there is aesthetics like something looking good to one culture and bad to another. Running the Munitorium for a huge campaign with dozens of different lasgun styles must drive the quartermasters to drink.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

Arquinsiel posted:

Dawn of War also has the infamous "SPESS MAHREENS!" though....

"Git off mah ship SPESS MAHREEN!"

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

Demiurge4 posted:

Eisenhorn has been in the deep end ever since he started using that Daemonhost. Oddly though Ravenor's been okay with it, I mean he's done awkward stuff too, like collaborating with the Eldar on ocassion (ironicly, Eisenhorn critized him for this) and he's seen Eisenhorn use it before too.

So I wonder what changed that made Ravenor decide that Eisenhorn is too radical now.

I don't recall Ravenor seeing Eisenhorn's little demon buddy. I know some of the warband end up seeing him in Pariah but when were other times he's popped up that Ravenor would be aware of? As for Ravenor working with the Eldar sometimes isn't the lore full of instances were the Imperium and Eldar will stop dicking with each other long enough to kill tyranids or orks?

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

euphronius posted:

Ravenor is there in the joint mission at the end fight of the Eisenhorn Trilogy. Cherubael is pretty out in the open at that point.

Lead Psychiatry posted:

Cherubael was in Thorn Wishes Talon. Iirc Ravenor and Eisenhorn were having a chat face to face when Eisenhorn replied with what amounted to "Sick em, boy!" when he got little puppy demon eyes wanting to kill staring at him .

Thanks for the refresher. It's going to be real interesting to see how far Eisenhorn goes down the heretic rabbit hole.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

bunnyofdoom posted:

Still pretty heretical

You have to wonder if the rest of his warband knows about his new buddy.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:
The inquisitor books like Eisenhorn and the Gaunt's Ghosts books have some wild stuff but I'm repeatedly amazed at the things space marines get into in WH40k like brain eating and the like. :psyduck:

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

Lincoln`s Wax posted:

I can see some exec thumbing through the pages while saying "This okay, but where are the female marines? And it's all so... dour. We're thinking of making it so the army guys can just walk in and out of those dread things- audiences connect better with faces!"

Not that I wouldn't poo poo pants if they cast Depp as Cain or something.

Just turn Eisenhorn into a mini-series then. HBO can add in all the sexy things they demand to bring in the shameful True Blood/Game of Thrones crowd.

Demiurge4 posted:

Or get HBO to pick up the Gaunt's Ghosts as a television series. It would be hard to do though because Aexe Cardinal is a really boring set piece that would screw with the continuity of the main storyline (the Saint in particular). Hinzerhaus as well but to a lesser extent because it was the set up for a broken Tanith First on Baelhaut.

Gereon is easily my favorite set piece after Vervunhive though and it would make for a fantastic movie. Quite often I feel like I'm reading a movie script when I read Abnett's books, like he's aware they could be adapted to the screen at some point.

Necropolis would make for a kick rear end mini-series as well. Band of Brothers in space.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:
I finished up Brotherhood of the Snake and found it to be alright if a bit bland compared to things like Eisenhorn or Ravenor. It didn't get into any of the truly weird space marine stuff since Abnett seemed to focus more on the Snake squad being a band of brothers in space. I did enjoy the Chapter Librarian and the adventurers he pulled the lead marine into. And most of the chapter being absolute dicks to anyone who wasn't a Snake fit well with how literal supermen would probably interact with mere mortals.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

Mechafunkzilla posted:

BotS is a pretty mellow book. It was the first time Abnett was writing space marines so I think he wanted to play it safe.

I did get that impression and I can't really blame him. The mission where the protagonist became a squad leader was pretty grim but otherwise the combat was a lot like Gaunt's Ghosts.

One thing that threw me slightly was the mention of the chapter using slaves. Is that a common thing for the space marines or was it just something Abnett decided to use? I would have thought a lot of the auxiliary staff for space marines would be former Imperial Guard or specialists who were assigned or volunteered for the assignment.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

Mechafunkzilla posted:

Everybody's got slaves in 40k. Even the smallest spacecraft have literally thousands of slaves on them. And then there are servitors...

Hmm, well I know they had indentured servants plus the servitors in the 40k universe but space marines having "boy slaves" threw me for a loop. If they weren't all asexual killing machines it would just open all those awkward doors. And catholic priest jokes, lots of them.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:
Welp, you learn something new about the grim-dark future every day.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:
I finished reading Titanicus recently. I felt like it didn't pick up until midway but Abnett seemed to have fun with the Mechanis world building. The internal intrigue in the Forge was probably my favorite part. As always with Abnett the ending was rushed but it was nice that things weren't completely resolved by the Titans themselves with the soldiers on the ground playing a key part. The subplot with the one soldier's husband being an idiot seemed like it was tacked on as filler. I would have liked a little more time with the Mechanis representative and Imperial observer in its place to flesh out more of the lore.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:
I remember someone saying ADB was writing a story about the Sisters of Battle. Was that a rumor or is it in the works?

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

Kegslayer posted:

Bit off topic but have you played Space Marine? The multi player did a really good job of balancing super power armour and the weapons.

I'm not sure how fun an FPS would be if you're an invincible but slow moving bulk of armour.

A lot of the limitations of the game were probably due to THQ's death spiral. I know I had a lot of fun with the multiplayer. The single player stuff could have stood for some improvement but the atmosphere and sounds were great. Relic also did a nice job with Lt. Mira given how seldom you might see a woman play a major role in a WH40k story.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:
As far as bolter sounds I thought one of the best parts of Space Marine was the sounds of all the weapons.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

Ardent Communist posted:

Or maybe it's because ADB knows that the Black Legion is going to conquer Cadia (but not the space around) because he's going to write about it in his new series. The final book, anyway.

How would they win on the ground without air/space superiority?

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

Mechafunkzilla posted:

With demons or something. Use your imagination.

I can go with that. I just expected some silly, convoluted explanation. But "demons helps, don't worry about it" seems much more fun.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

Demiurge4 posted:

Yeah Abnetts poo poo is the only poo poo I care about and it keeps being pushed back, I realize the guy has a condition and all but come on! I want my bolter porn :(

Abnett isn't well?

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

Kylaer posted:

She's a character from another piece I wrote and posted here a while ago, titled Stillness. She's (spoilers if you haven't read Stillness) an Eversor.

That was a nice addition to the story. I enjoy when a writer has their own little universe come together. Also you should apply to that contest regardless of the story you put in, Doc Eldar or your Inquisitor.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:
I want to see GW sue Marvel/Disney.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:
I did like that one fan-fic thing where one of the lost Primarchs was sent off to fight the tyranids in their home galaxy. They manage to kick their asses using dark age tech and found a second imperium without any of the issues the main one does. Now the tyranids are swarming into our galaxy because they are running from the Primarch chasing them around.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

Pendent posted:

One of the Horus Heresy black books, Inferno I think, heavily implies that at least one of the two lost legions was destroyed after being compromised by a race of mind-controlling xenos.

You'd think mind control would be high on the Emperor's list of things to make my space marines immune to.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

Shroud posted:

My favorite part of this fanfic is at the end, when the primarch wonders what magnificent works his father and brothers have built in his absence.

It had just the right tinge of sadness and regret to be authentic 40k.

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Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:
Chaos likes to hit up Forge Worlds. It's like the Bass Pro Shop of endless war.

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