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ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

The Rat posted:

Xenology had a great Lovecraft vibe to it, yeah. Absolutely worth reading if you can get access to it.

Just finished Wrath of Iron and thought it was unremarkable, bland bolter porn. Only impression I had at the end was "Wow, the Iron Hands are insecure dickbags."

Yeah it was super boring, the commissar dude was the worst. Only interesting part of it was that Ferrus Manus wanted to purge the Legion of its reliance on and belief in machine augmentation.

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ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Greataval posted:

I own drat near all BL books I have read even all the awful ones. I like abnett but I could not make it thru eisenhorn,ravanor or guard series.

Which books did you like? :confuoot:

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Greataval posted:

His titanicus book all his HH books were all pretty good it just feels his books need another hundred pages he rushes his endings. His black templar comics are pretty good.

Ah yeah, couldn't agree more really with the ending part. I'd love to see him write something with similar lengths to Richard K. Morgan's sci-fi stuff (Altered Carbon, Market Forces, Black Man), so roughly 2.5x the length of a normal BL book. In fact i'd pretty much recommend Altered Carbon to those who liked Eisenhorn/Ravenor.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Mechafunkzilla posted:

The Alpha Legion story by Rob Sanders is good, and has the biggest reveal of any of the stories (the Fulgrim "reveal" is really more of a retcon). Rob Sanders is really growing on me, he's not the greatest author in the world but everything he writes is just fun.

The other three range from horrid, to just mediocre and boring.

His Inquisitor Czevak novel, Atlas Infernal wasn't terrible, had some nice moments.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

jadebullet posted:

By the way, what is the name of the book involving the Space Wolves during the first war for Armageddon? It seemed interesting to me, and I would like to pick it up. I just forget the name.

The Emperor's Gift by Dembski-Bowden.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

Basically GW's fluff has never not been hosed eight ways from The Feast of Saint Kiodrus and attempting to unfuck it is boring and lame.

I am a huge nerd and have no idea what that event was apart from Kiodrus being one of Saint Sabbat's aides?

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Baron Bifford posted:

Games Workshop is doing the Horus Heresy now, but are there plans in the future to do the collapse of the Imperium in the 42nd millenium?

Also on this note, I don't really read many of the rulebooks or codices unless they have decent fluff, was there anything in the new edition of 40k that mentioned more about the state of the Imperium? I think it was the previous edition that mentioned that the Golden Throne had irreparable problems.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006


HE RISES

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

mdemone posted:

What is this witchcraft? I thought the release date was in Oct/Nov?

Yeah you are right there. This was taken from the BL Facebook page, assuming it's an early print copy.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Degenerate Star posted:

Are there any good novels about the Salamanders or the White Scars? I'm fine with bolter porn, as long as it's not the Ultramarines yet again.

The White Scars SM Battles book is absolute garbage, don't bother picking it up.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Arthur Bowlsworth posted:

oh whoops, thought they skipped a number, I need to read them back to back some time

I completely forgot about it as well, ended up making a whole theory about who the other slave could be.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Lead Psychiatry posted:

I'm still pretty new to WH40K so this part has left me a bit confused when reading through the Horus Heresy series: Did the Great Crusade begin only after the 20 primarchs have been found? Or only some of them? On one hand it seems like some of the primarchs know each other very well (Horus and Sanguinius, Fulgrim and Ferrous Manus), and then on the other most of the views towards other primarchs seem like first impressions (Guilliman and Dorn are pompous) or based only with the short time campaigning (Kurze bloodthirsty, Russ a savage, etc).

The Great Crusade began with zero primarchs, they found them along the way, with Horus being the first, and Alpharius the last. The Emperor did have the Legiones Astartes though.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Death by Cranes posted:

Allow me to say that "Brotherhood of Snake" was total utter gar-bitch! So tedious.

And why the poo poo isn't Nemesis in the OP under fantastic novels? It had everything going for it.

(Great thread by the way.)

Brothes of the Snake was incredible compared to most SM novels, and Nemesis was just a complete waste of an interesting topic.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
There's a whole Eldar series out at the minute that is active but I have no idea if it sucks or not.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
Pariah is now available as an eBook on the Black Library site. Its on my Kindle waiting to be ravished.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Samopsa posted:

I felt the same, and it doesn't really pay off imo. From what I remember, the bit where they are underwater with the portal was the highlight for me.

Is Pariah out yet :confused:? I can't find it anywhere online as an ebook. I'm in the Netherlands if that makes any difference.

https://www.blacklibrary.com ?

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
I can't remember which book it's from, but there's a great part describing one of the rituals of the mechanicus. Essentially there's a lot of mumbojumbo about administering to the machine spirit, with oils applied and lots of chanting by supplicants with incense being waved around, and it all concludes with the Magos hitting the machine with a large hammer.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
Cool, looks like the HH books are now coming out in hardback. That combined with Abnett's and ADB's books also in hardback means I'm cutting down on all the pulpy trash I buy.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
Pariah owned, it's incredible how far ahead Abnett and ADB are of the other BL authors. I stll have my usual complaints regarding BL word limits etc.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Lead Psychiatry posted:

Do I need to read the Grey Knight books from Ben Counter to know what's going on in Emperor's Gift? I generally prefer to read things in order, but if EG is a one-off and maybe takes place before the Counter books, may read it before hand.[/spoiler]

Nope you don't have to read them, although they are set after EG, between the release of these dates the Grey Knight's fluff was completely redone, and now EG is the only "true" book.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
Are the Salamanders books decent or just generic marine trash? the eBundle is tempting but i'm trying to avoid bolter porn.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
Cheers for the feedback, guess I will start on my backlog of Heresy books.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
Rob Sanders book featuring Ahriman wasn't bad, surprised they never gave him a shot at it.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Alchenar posted:

And Relic will tell them to get stuffed. They have much better writers than anything BL can offer.

What? Every relic 40k game has had a horrible story.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

bunnyofdoom posted:

I kinda like the story to Space Marine v:shobon:v

Does that make me a bad person?

It was a cliche rogue inquisitor dude, with a classic alien invasion with chaos in the background story. Game was dumb and super repetitive (coming from a guy with 500 hours played of Dawn of War 2 alone) although it was a well done repetitive game. Other parts that were dumb include: 3 dudes running around with 0 other marines even pictured until the end yet, they make a big deal about the Codex Astartes. Also not even a single tech priest or skiitari seen at a titan manufactorum, one of the Mechanicum's most holy sites. Game would have been so much more satisfying to just see a couple of scouts, rear end marines, commissars in the background or something just to spice it up.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Impaired Casing posted:

I then picked up "The Hunt for Voldorius"

Honestly it's the worst book in a series of bad books. Pick up Helsreach by Dembski-Bowden, its the only one worth reading.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Mechafunkzilla posted:

Well that's just a silly statement. Legion of the Damned is awesome, as is Wrath of Iron. Battle of the Fang isn't too bad either.

Ok this is true and i'm an idiot, I appear to have forgotten past the first four books.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
I'm tempted to write a big nerdy email to BL complaining about how fragmented and shite all there content for the last year has been. Never done anything like this before but i'm hella nerd mad.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
They're not listed on the BL site yet for whatever reason, but some of the cover art for future BL releases is incredible. Vulkan Lives especially is whoa. Ben Counter's new Fists novel has a cool sounding plot. Shame most of his books have been utter turd, which sucks as I really enjoyed his first GK novel and I guess his early HH novel.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

mastermind2004 posted:

So, have they just permanently raised the prices on e-books that come out alongside hardcovers? It seems like a bunch of e-books which their companion book is now in softcover are still at the $11.99 price instead of the normal $7.99 for the e-book. It just seems dumb to pay exactly the same price for an e-book as the paperback.

I tried to stop reading and buying BL books back in july and so far i've only bought Pariah. Too much poo poo spread around to keep up with.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Rapey Joe Stalin posted:

Fire Warrior. It's out of print now, but it has what you want. I've just read it and, overall, it is really solid.

I read Fire Warrior when I was much younger so I might be a little off, but it's one of the few books that really conveys just how "chaotic" Chaos is. Its really well done, especially for something written when there wasn't much depth to the Tau and 40K fiction as a whole back then.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
Was considering buying a BL ebook today, my last purchase being Pariah. I was planning on getting some copies of the HH books I already own on paperback, untill I saw they've gone and upped the price of all the HH novels to £11.99.

Jesus christ.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Schneider Heim posted:

I believe those are the enhanced e-book ones (with illustrations)? The general e-book release takes a while later.

Oh no, I mean all the HH eBooks, even the original few that came out as a £6.99 eBook or whatever the price was.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
Urg The Sigilite sounds great, but it's a loving audiobook.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

berzerkmonkey posted:

Whaaat? Sounds like urban legend to me. I don't remember ever hearing about anything like that.

There was a live action... thing... but it was only ever shown at Games Days. I think I remember it being a test for a TV show or something, but it never really went anywhere. BloodQuest was also a fan project, but it kind of stalled when GW wouldn't finance and/or support it.

I remember this, it had Dark Angels in right?

lenoon posted:

Nope, it's true. There were some really lovely 3-D renders of rhinos and land raiders in several old white dwarf issues. Along with the original warhammer MMO, it's one of those things that gets into the magazine before being quietly shelved and pushed out a view a few months later.

Yup was a land raider on a desert style background if I remember correctly.

*Edit*
Found the little trailer with the land raider in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpEY630UaMg

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

berzerkmonkey posted:

Yeah, I think the best full-length 40K movie would be an IG story with a Space Marine coming in when the battle looks lost and just tearing the hell out of everything. Portraying the SM as essentially a monster that just happens to be on "our" side would really just drive the point home about how far removed from humanity they are really supposed to be.

Kinda Forward Unto Dawn style? Sounds good. If we're talking ultimate dream movie though it would have to be the First War for Armageddon and the final assault on Angron. ADB couldn't have written that scene better.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Kurzon posted:

The Blood Ravens are said to have a lot of psykers. Where was this mentioned in canon?

Probably either the Dawn of War games or novels somewhere.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

krushgroove posted:

OK thanks guys, good info. I'm going to finish Flight of the Eisenstein then try Shira Calpurnia, get back to Abnett with Ravenor, then maybe poke around the other Horus Heresy novels.

Calpurnia is a great series for roleplayers, goes really in depth to the Imperium at home and covers a bunch of bases.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Cream_Filling posted:

Also, they're by some guy named Matthew Farrer and not James Swallow as previously noted. Which is a definite plus. He's at least readable, though not exactly a great writer or anything.

Agreed, better than Swallow and the BL average imo.

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ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

mesc posted:

He has a bit part in the book but, as somebody who always plays clerics in every game ever, I was wondering if there are any series that have this type of character as a lead player. Any suggestions?

The Emperor's Gift is is told from the first person view of an insane psyker and is an incredible book. Features the Grey Knights, a chapter made up entirely of specialist demon-hunting psykers.

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