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Defiance Industries posted:Thought I'd share the sheet I drew up for the Mandarin, who Dr. Strange is facing in Civil War. NO PEEKING, MALTOSE. Honestly, my money's on Tony. For default Tony it's going to be close, and the Mandarin probably wins straight up melees. But Tony has the advantage of Plot Points vs Doom Pool, and has armour that's made of plot points - whereas the Mandarin is rolling 3 dice from powers rather than 2 on the defence. It's very very close and Tony shouldn't get away with his armour intact. (This is unless Mandarin one-shots him with the Disintegration Beam - d10 solo, d10 left hand, 2d12 right, and a skill dice is a nasty dice pool although hard to exploit unless the doom pool is already big) For Civil War Tony, CW Tony is immune to physical stress (well, 1PP). He can absorb energy attacks - which is what the Mandarin does. It's a pretty bad combination for the Mandarin.
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Quick, tell me how well Doctor Strange could hold up.
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Oct 25, 2013 02:54
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neonchameleon posted:Honestly, my money's on Tony. For default Tony it's going to be close, and the Mandarin probably wins straight up melees. But Tony has the advantage of Plot Points vs Doom Pool, and has armour that's made of plot points - whereas the Mandarin is rolling 3 dice from powers rather than 2 on the defence. It's very very close and Tony shouldn't get away with his armour intact. (This is unless Mandarin one-shots him with the Disintegration Beam - d10 solo, d10 left hand, 2d12 right, and a skill dice is a nasty dice pool although hard to exploit unless the doom pool is already big) Well, heroes generally have an edge when you're talking about trading plot points for doom pool. What I was going for, particularly by giving him a fairly small number of SFX, was that the Mandarin has the advantage of raw firepower, but Tony can probably win by doing creative armor stuff, which is kind of the classic Iron Man villain showdown. The other thing I wanted to mention in particular was that the Mandarin's rings don't have the usual Gear limit you see because they teleport themselves to him whenever he wants them back or gets knocked unconscious. It got used to defeat dudes he let borrow his rings, but I wasn't quite sure if there's a mechanic to loan out powers. I know you can do it with an expertise.
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Oct 25, 2013 04:14
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I noticed it in the thread, but there's something elegant about having the two hands as separate powersets so you can mix and match. I think I saw a Mandarin datafile that just put all ten powers in one with a bunch of SFX, this seems better.
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Oct 25, 2013 04:31
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See, my first impulse was the exact opposite, to say "the Mandarin can totally use all ten rings at once if he wants, right? ...But that would be SO STUPID." Also, come to think of it, I could probably make the data sheet a bit more compact by turning the three elemental rings into one power with a SFX that says "use D10 elemental blast as fire, ice or electricity. I just saved page space."
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Oct 25, 2013 04:40
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Groovy. I've always liked the Mandarin's schtick. It's so simple, by has so much potential, and I think you've captured a lot of that here.
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Oct 25, 2013 22:25
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Mr. Maltose posted:Quick, tell me how well Doctor Strange could hold up. First action for Doctor Strange in anything other than a squash match is to create an asset. With Supreme Sorcery and Alliterative Invocations he should be able to create a d12 with no questions asked. Which makes him nigh-on invulnerable on the defence. (Seriously, Supreme Sorcery d12, Mystic Senses d12, and [Asset] d12 is more than many large scale threats get). The odd thing about Strange is that he is so much stronger on the defence than the offence. Using Mystic Senses on the offence is hard, so is Teleport, and complications don't stack, so Supreme Sorcery isn't as good on the offence. Meaning that on the offence he's throwing a d10 from Disciple of the Ancient Lore and not necessarily that much from his Mystic Regalia. Of course if you give him prep time he's got that d12 asset and a d10 mystic resource, and is looking at one-shot complicating Mandarin out with a dice pool of d10 (solo) + Distinction + d12 (sorcery to create an asset) + d10 (Teleport just behind the Mandarin before wrapping him in the Crimson Bands of Cytorak + d10 (Mystic Master) + d10 (Mystic Resource) + d12 [Asset] + 1d6 (Sfx) = 2d12 + 4d10 + 1d6 [Distinction] with the effect die automatically being stepped up once - and no plot points spent. Make one of those d12s an effect dice and this is a Save or Die attack - and the only d12 Mandarin gets at all is with the one shot disintegration ring. Marvel Heroic IMO works much better when there are almost no d12s in the powersets.
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Oct 25, 2013 23:53
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Strange doesn't get setup. The Mandarin has struck first! Step two is to unleash the avalanche of nature's most poisonous little fruit, the Mandarin Orange!
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Oct 25, 2013 23:59
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I wrote about a page of a Batman fan story once that was about almost exactly that same thing.
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Oct 26, 2013 01:07
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You guys are going to hate when you have to fight the Monarch btw.
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Oct 26, 2013 01:42
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Now I know why you wrote Captain America out. Who will defend us from British imperialism now?
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Oct 26, 2013 10:26
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TBH I wrote him out because almost everyone was already a moderating influence and we didn't need actual players being overshadowed by him. That's right, your unwillingness to be crazy, reckless assholes got Cap taken out.
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Oct 26, 2013 16:16
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Obviously Cap needs to be the reckless crazy rear end in a top hat. Basically turn him into a Steranko Splash.
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Oct 26, 2013 16:21
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I could just bring in 1950s Captain America. He's not in the hospital or anything yet. Still around, being a crazy rear end in a top hat.
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Oct 26, 2013 16:52
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I am %100 willing to be both crazy and reckless. I just gave [redacted] to the goddamned [redacted] and, my other character is BFFs with Doctor Doom!
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Oct 28, 2013 19:38
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Anybody know if there's any templates or the like to produce a datafile layout that approximates the books, either for player characters or Watcher characters? Maybe I should just bug the Plot Points blog and find out how they do it, but I figured it was worth asking.
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Oct 29, 2013 18:17
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I haven't found one, and kind of gave up on designing my own (because I was terrible at it.)
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Oct 29, 2013 22:51
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The guy who runs Marvel Plot Points made a blank PSD datafile and there's this editable Word datafile template. I don't think either is quite what you are envisioning, though. Of course, you can always use MWP's editable PDF datafile, but I don't know if that's still up anywhere.
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Oct 30, 2013 10:06
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Those would be fine, to be honest, I'm just looking for something better-looking than the official sheet or my own word processor hackwork. I emailed Mark at Plot Points, now I just need to work on stuff to make that kind of thing worthwhile.
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Oct 30, 2013 17:39
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Oh hey! Me again. Guess what I found guys! Mass effect RPG done with Marvel heroicish style: Well.. its more like cortex plus but look at that GETH!
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Looks kind of like Smallville meets MHR what with the Pathways. Not sure I want to know what the Rule 34 Asari intern entry is about, but I do want to learn more about the "Oh-poo poo-ometer."
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Oh BTW, does anyone know where one could find printer friendly versions of the Datafiles? Especially the ones in the first book. I recall they released something like that but it isn't on any site that I can see.
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Druggeddwarf posted:Oh BTW, does anyone know where one could find printer friendly versions of the Datafiles? Especially the ones in the first book. If you got the pdfs through DriveThruRPG, the printer friendly datafiles should be in your Library. If not, and assuming it doesn't run afoul of  , I can email you the printer-friendly versions of the Basic, Civil War, and 50 State Initiative datafiles. Let me know and I'll double check with Winson to make sure it's kosher.
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Nov 28, 2013 23:28
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GimpInBlack posted:Let me know and I'll double check with Winson to make sure it's kosher. If it turns out to be kosher, I'd really love these as well.
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Can't keep a good system down. Edit: Anyone seen any good stats for Wilson Fisk? I may need a Kingpin in the near future, but I'm not sure how best o build him myself.
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Danger-Pumpkin posted:Can't keep a good system down. I've been reading Fate Core lately. My previous exposure to FATE variants left me kind of confused, but I think I finally get it. And when I do have my tiny epiphanies, I keep finding that it's through comparing it to stuff MHR does. Except that instead of using Fate points to get a +2 or reroll, you get to do much more exciting stuff with plot points. And the statting up somehow allows just as much flexibility as Aspects, but also gives you a clearly defined character that you can easily make unique, even though everyone has the same basic powers and skills to choose from. What I'm saying is that I love MHR and can't wait to see the system continue in a Heroic Cortex Plus rulebook (that's still happening, right? Right?).
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I really hope so. It'd be a shame to leave it blowing in the wind.
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Danger-Pumpkin posted:Can't keep a good system down. He's on page CW145 if you have the Civil War event book. ibntumart posted:What I'm saying is that I love MHR and can't wait to see the system continue in a Heroic Cortex Plus rulebook (that's still happening, right? Right?). Not sure if they're doing a full rulebook or not, but the C+ Hacker's Guide has the basic mechanics and the Fantasy Heroic Roleplaying rules.
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GimpInBlack posted:He's on page CW145 if you have the Civil War event book. Nice! Thanks for the heads up.
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GimpInBlack posted:If you got the pdfs through DriveThruRPG, the printer friendly datafiles should be in your Library. If not, and assuming it doesn't run afoul of I can't believe I missed this the first time round. Ended up making some using a template online. I own the civil war and the core book, so passing me the pdf datafiles of those should be alright.
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My Civil War game has started up and thus far is an absolute blast. I've decided to make a few changes to continuity to make the government not cartoonishly evil, one of the changes being from the Mac Gargan version of Venom to Agent Venom. Unfortunately for flash, I haven't read any comics starring him so I'm going purely by wikis for the datafile. Could someone with more knowledge of the character tell me what I'm doing wrong with this datafile?quote:AGENT VENOM/VENOM (Eugene "Flash" Thompson)
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I've been meaning to ask, has anyone done anything with making original characters that aren't randomly generated yet? I have a couple ideas, but wanted to see what others may have done first.
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I'm afraid I can't help you with Venom because I'm not much of a comics expert. I just came here to post this - http://potatocubed.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/a-very-brief-mhr-hack-for-exalted.pdf - which is a short thing I wrote about using MHR to run Exalted. I wrote it a while back then realised I'd forgotten to tell anyone about it. 
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Error 404 posted:I've been meaning to ask, has anyone done anything with making original characters that aren't randomly generated yet? Ibn's running a couple in my current Civil War game. Plus the Annihilation book has a bunch of basic templates that are designed to be used to make original characters. You want to make a Kree warrior? He's a baseline for Kree warriors, go from there. That helps a lot with getting your basic concepts for character and playstyle down, which is really important if you want to have a character who's more interesting to play than Cyclops.
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Defiance Industries posted:Ibn's running a couple in my current Civil War game. Also the Annihilation book has a bunch of basic templates that are designed to be used to make original characters. You want to make a Kree warrior? He's a baseline for Kree warriors, go from there. I'll have to try and snag the annihilation book then. Although I'm working on a different angle for originals. Like, an idea I'm thinking about to have a little more balance is the progression of die steps: 1d12 = 2d10 = 3d8 = 4d6 I figured depending on power level and what the watcher is trying to run, every player gets 3d12 to play with, which can be broken down according to the above progression into however many powers they wish, spread into as many powersets as they wish while retaining a little bit of parity. You can have a 3d12 powerhouse standing side by side with a 16d6 olympic level athlete, doctor, physicist, secret agent. of course then I'm stuck trying to figure out a good average for SFX. I'd probably want to expand the specialties list, and also add a 'competent' level at d6 or something. Edit: I should've specified MHRPG, I forget about the other games. my bad. Error 404 fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Jan 9, 2014 |
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Error 404 posted:I've been meaning to ask, has anyone done anything with making original characters that aren't randomly generated yet? My college gaming group had a superhero campaign that started out in Mutants and Masterminds, but we did a special "spinoff" "season" of Ultimate Rebels (the Rebels being the team, Ultimate of course referring to the Marvel Ultimates line) in which we all had completely original characters, no actual Marvel dudes at all (other than Stanley Lieber being an investigative journalist [yes, we had a Stan Lee cameo, yes we are TREMENDOUS nerds]) and it worked out really well. I wish I knew where all our old datafiles were :\ EDIT: And there they were hiding in my Dropbox the whole time! Thanks, Marvel RP thread, for helping me dig up a big of nostalgia!
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Error 404 posted:I'll have to try and snag the annihilation book then. Although I'm working on a different angle for originals. I really wouldn't worry too much about balancing character creation. If a player has a solid concept, they should be allowed to take whatever traits and SFX they think the concept needs. This is a system where Hawkeye and Thor can work together without overshadowing each other. Sure, if someone makes a guy with all d12's, that might be a little iffy, but then that probably doesn't even fit his concept anyways unless he's making Galactus or something. The only thing you should limit is scale, depending on the game you're running. If the game is all about street-level justice, then having a guy who is a powerful sorcerer and can teleport across space doesn't really fit, regardless of what die size his traits are.
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Yeah, I'm going to agree with Astus here. As long as everyone is on the same power level conceptually and no one goes completely nuts with the SFX, everyone's characters should work well together. Although that does remind me that at least one person should know what kind of stuff the common SFXes and Limits represent fictionally when you're making characters. Otherwise it'll be a bit hard choosing good ones for the characters they're trying to make. On the subject of making characters, here's the random datafile generator someone reuploaded after MWP took it down. It at least shows that they don't mind having a large range of die sizes between power sets in the same party.
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Captain Hats posted:My Civil War game has started up and thus far is an absolute blast. I've decided to make a few changes to continuity to make the government not cartoonishly evil, one of the changes being from the Mac Gargan version of Venom to Agent Venom. Unfortunately for flash, I haven't read any comics starring him so I'm going purely by wikis for the datafile. Could someone with more knowledge of the character tell me what I'm doing wrong with this datafile? Honestly it looks like you nailed it pretty well. It's probably more complicated than I'd make it, but that's a design thing rather than a character thing. About the only other thing that comes to mind is his bouts with alcoholism, but I don't know if that'd be a thing to fit in mechanically or not. Another thing is that early on he had a "Multi-Gun" which basically was a gadget that let him emulate any mundane gun, though I don't know if that would really be more than just Weapons. It's worth looking up his series, the first half by Rick Remender (issues 1-22), was a lot of fun and really sold that take on the character.
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Error 404 posted:I've been meaning to ask, has anyone done anything with making original characters that aren't randomly generated yet? DI already mentioned my original characters in his game, as well as the Annihilation Event Book's premade statlines as starting points. What I did for Ikzayal was to use the basic Eternal Power Set in the event book. I tweaked it a bit to reflect that she's not as experienced as most Eternals, adding an extra Limit and replacing the Millenia of Experience SFX with the more volatile and less disciplined Cutting Loose SFX. (The Psychic Hooks SFX I added later.) Her second power set developed naturally from the concept of her parents tinkering with her genetics to make it easier for her to hide among potentially hostile humans on Earth. I did roll for power levels on that power set, mind you. Shadowjack also has the Annihilation book to thank. I had an idea of a mutant assassin, but with a bit of a tech bent. I liked the Assassin template as a starting point as well as the cybernetic senses from a couple of the other templates. My idea was a mutant who basically had the tech stuff implanted into him, so having a mutant healing factor and high stamina helped explain how he survived the grafting and integration process, and I kind of figured the tech control would be a cool something extra but not uberpowerful. It also fit in with the concept of having a hive colony of nanites in his body that he's always in communion with. Having a solid concept was really the most important thing for both of these PCs. Also add me to the chorus about not worrying too much about tightly monitored starting power levels. That's not as important in MHRPG as it is in, say, Mutants & Masterminds, which is crunchier and much more heavily favors a tightly constructed character build.
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