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Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008

WebDog posted:



Sceptre BT15+ LCD privacy screen

An LCD screen that displayed all white, until you used the special sunglasses that allowed you to view. I'm sure LCD refresh rates of 1999 combined with whatever was used to white out the screen made for some pretty painful viewing.



I saw this posted as a "hack" not too long ago.

They remove the front polarizing screen from the monitor, and then use glasses with an equivalent polarizing screen. Nothing particularly special about the monitor or glasses. Just don't tilt your head too much, or the polarization will be out of alignment.

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Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008

Tuxedo Ted posted:

I could see it used at hospitals and clinics and such to keep patient data away from folks who'd misuse it. They take that stuff pretty seriously and already use those special screen filters on monitors to make it a blurry mess to anyone not standing directly in front of it.


In a world, where only one man has discovered the secrets to knowing who has embarassing rashes.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
It's basically a proto-iPod touch.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
How did they get it out of all the wiring harnesses? Or did they mix up the before and after labels?

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
I can't seem to find any photos or video of them, but in the early 90's American Greetings had kiosks in a number of places where you could create a custom card. The card would then be printed using X-Y pen plotter on card stock. You'd pay about double for the custom card vs an off-the-shelf card.

Of course, home computers and printers eliminated the market.

They were launched in 1992, and were already on the decline in 1996 according to this article: http://articles.latimes.com/1996-06-27/business/fi-18966_1_card-personalized-sales


Also, previously in this thread we had some mall chat. Irondequoit Mall's management no longer heats the interior, and with Macy's closing in a month or two, Sears will be the only store remaining. The mall has flooded due to pipes bursting from the cold.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
The main attraction for me was watching the pen plotter make it's magic. It worked in one color at a time, cross-hatching to create the shaded areas, slowly building an image.

E: Different plotter, but holy poo poo this thing is fast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYGPSAD5L_k (For a pen plotter)

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008

cobalt impurity posted:

Go to an arts and crafts store some time. Cricut and Sizzix have been on the market for years, and Cricut has a huge line of cartridges programmed with various designs and fonts you can cut or draw with. They even have one for use on fondant for cake decorators.

I also think of laser cutters, plasma cutters, waterjet cutters, and 3D printers as logical extensions of plotters.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008

kastein posted:

It actually seemed pretty good to me, there were a lot of small details in the spokes of the wheels that took a long time.

If I had to guess, you send a regular old vector file of some sort (postscript, most likely) straight to the printer and it just does whatever you tell it to. So yeah, inefficient software is entirely to blame, but it's probably the program used to create the vectors.

This is a plotter we're talking about, so it's most likely an ACAD *.dwg file, and the interface will use HPGL. The HPGL language is simple, like what Ron Burgundy posted.

ACAD has multiple levels of pen path optimization techniques, but you have to turn them on.

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Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008

mystes posted:

Didn't someone just post this on the previous page?

Yes, we've gone from Creatacard -> Plotters -> Creatacard.

lazydog posted:

That's weird that you can't find pictures of the Creatacard machines online.

I did find the patent, which has nice nostalgic drawings of the user interface.
http://www.google.com/patents/US5615123



The only actual photo I could find is of a gutted kiosk in an abandoned mall


Thanks for this picture. It was bothering me to not find any photos.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
More plotter porn:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLhT-h55fxA

Also:
  • Overhead transparencies. They may still be common in education, but in business they seem to be dead.
  • Xerox PCs. Either the Alto or the Star. I don't think they ever became popular outside of Xerox internal use.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008

MyFaceBeHi posted:

It's not really failed if it is used by [nearly] all businesses the world over. It certainly is lovely though, and becoming far more obsolete what with BBM being on iOS and Android now and more businesses moving from RIM to more user friendly devices. Even my brother has gone back to Android after having a Blackberry 9300 for a year!

Businesses love to use obsolete technology. See: Dot Matrix Printers, Windows XP, Fax, etc.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
GE Money also finances Jet Engines, Locomotives, and Nuclear Power Reactors, all built by GE.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
40 foot? I wouldn't want to carry one of these out either!


This guy took apart an old Sony Jumbotron module: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AclwH64eAkU Kinda interesting how each pixel is its own CRT.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008

Coffee And Pie posted:

That reminds me, does anyone else remember Cinemania? It was a MS program that was a lot like a proto-IMDB, with pictures and reviews, and even a few video clips, which was a big deal back then.

I had that, plus Music Central. I also recall they had DLC updates.

I must have watched the clip from Star Wars and a clip of a ZZ Top concert 100s of times. My brother also found a movie clip that had a swear, it may have been from Jaws? That was a good one too.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008

TerryLennox posted:

They don't. I worked at Dell at the Latin America servers dept. and Bolivia (among the tallest cities on Earth) had hilariously high hard drive failure rates. The worst part is that the drive warranty doesn't cover usage above a certain height.

Was that more about heat dissipation than head crashes? Thinner air doesn't conduct heat as well.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
I use Airplane mode when I go into a foreign country to avoid roaming fees.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008

Dick Trauma posted:

I remember around 2002 buying a Phaser that used those funky ink blocks, like the 860. The thing had to warm up for quite a long time and the staff kept turning it off and then bitching about waiting for it to be ready.

It would slowly fill the waste tray with a hideous dark purple blob of wasted toner from all the reheats.

This is the Solid-ink Phaser's big brother:

Does the equivalent of 10 000 sheets per minute. The technology isn't quite dead.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
Yeah, continuous feed, 2-up. 500 Feet per minute.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
I was working for a place that started offering Digital eDownloads. I wanted to shoot myself every time I saw or heard that phrase.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
Couldn't you dial *67 or something like that to disable call waiting for that one call? I remember every dial-up program asking for your call waiting disable code. (Not that my parents ever had call waiting, or caller id for that matter)

Then again, people had 12:00 blinking on their VCRs for all eternity, so that might still be too difficult to set up.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008

Pilsner posted:

Found this piece of junk, amongst many other old devices, when I cleaned out the house I just bought:



The Super GSM Reader.

Wow! Take the SIM card out of your phone, put it in this device, connect it to your PC via serial cable, start a (probably terrible) PC application, write an SMS there, save it on the SIM card, put the SIM card back in your phone, and it is now ready to be sent!

It was marginally useful for extracting the contacts.

But yeah, unsigned USB drivers, a terrible application in engrish, but for $1 shipped on Ebay, what do you expect?

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
In the US, you use minutes from your allocation for all calls, incoming or outgoing (They did the same for SMS too). As far as I know, there's only an extra charge for placed international calls (Not sure if those also burn allocated minutes). I guess a collect call would also be a charge.

Most plans don't count calls within a provider (Verizon to Verizon calls), or calls on nights and weekends.

However, keeping track of minutes is becoming an obsolete technology as many plans have unlimited minutes included, or such a large amount that it's effectively unlimited.

I'm waiting for data plans to have gimmicks like unlimited nights and weekends, and some sort of 'in network' unlimited.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008

less than three posted:

Everything from Nokia back then was indestructible.

I was one of the tens of people who had the Nokia 7380.



Dropped it in a toilet, keeps working. Partying for a night and it's been sitting underwater for 8 hours? Still working.

I'm disappointed they didn't emulate a rotary phone for dialing using the jog-dial.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008

Zaphod42 posted:

Friend of mine got a loving 50" CRT as a gift from some friend of his who no longer wanted it. We were poor college kids so gently caress yeah, BIG SCREEN for free?

It took us all day just to get it from the back of the truck into our first-floor apartment building. But man, what a great, huge picture.

Then the next year, we move to a different apartment. And of course, its on the 3rd loving floor. :stare: Oh god.

We get some friends to help us, and we're all throwing our backs into it, but even then that fucker was so heavy we had to take it one single stair at a time. Lift, move, set down. Lift, move, set down. We ended up constructing temporary ramps in the stairwell and poo poo, just to get that god drat TV upstairs.

Finally when we were ready to move out of that apartment, we just said gently caress it. No way we were moving that thing 3 stories again. We nearly killed ourselves trying to get it up there. So we craigslist the thing and say that anybody can have it for free if they just take the thing off our hands and get it out of there.

So this guy calls up very soon, and he wants the thing. We tell him its so heavy you need friends to move it, but he says he's got it. We insist, no, you need to bring somebody.

So this guy shows up looking like a goddamned American Gladiator. He's got some lanky friend with him, and no joke he just says "This TV?" and we say yes, and the dude just picks it up and throws it over his shoulder like nothing and walks down the stairs to his truck. His friend just kinda watches and smiles at us and then off they go.

That was the day I met superman.

Need a video of that, with the hulk hogan real american hero song behind it.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
You want to rent a compact car? Whoa, better be 25 to do that. Want to rent a 25' moving truck? 18? Go nuts. I'm sure there are exceptions to both of those, but it doesn't quite make sense to me.

For content, these stickers:


Don't get me wrong, I don't mind paying the registration fee, or getting my car inspected, or even having the plates and keeping a piece of paper in my car. I just hate swapping out the registration sticker every other year. Trying to scrape off the remains of the old sticker with a razor blade in an incredibly awkward position is just a huge pain in my rear end. I'm pretty sure a cop can just look it up based on my plate number, so why do I need the stickers?

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008

axolotl farmer posted:

You can still see this kind of hallway pager in older office buildings and public institutions like universities and government agencies.



It's really hard to google, since the search terms are so generic, and the system probably hasn't been in use since the 1980s. The lights can be lit, unlit or blinking. Each person has their own unique pattern, and when someone is paged the pager starts signalling their pattern. When someone called, and the person they wanted didn't pick up, they would get connected to the operator at the phone switchboard who could offer to page the person they wanted.

Anyone know a more specific search term than "office pager"? These were everywhere in Sweden, don't know about other countries.

Seems similar to the thing they had at some restaurants to tell the waitresses they had an order up. It would ding, and then their number would light up.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008

Goober Peas posted:

Yep - I remember going to Pizza Hut in the late 70s-early 80s and they had a similar system.

The best was our local Showbiz during that same time period - you'd place your order at the counter, then watch for your number on a TV screen. Except the TV screen animated your numbers along with Pac Man, Pong, and the like. When your number was up, you'd go pick it up at another counter.

Good times, I tell you.

Chuck E Cheese did that, but not as fancy. All the active numbers would be up, and when a new number came up it took up the whole screen and flashed.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
My little brother had this game:


I played the quake demo and it started playing the little kid sing-along songs over quake.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
I like when things sound like an old game show.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
I'm pretty sure Keurig developed those Coke Freestyle machines that let you mix flavors together. Kold was a way to apply that technology they already developed to the home market.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008


You guys don't have these all over your house?

But for real talk, you can get decora style switches too:

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008

Iron Crowned posted:

For some reason that reminds me of going to high school in the late 90's.

My Computer sciences teacher told us the tale of someone getting past disabling the command prompt, by making a text document with "CMD" in it, and changing the extension to .exe :laugh:

Probably BAT instead of EXE, but that's somewhat clever.

When I was in elementary school, there were two student accounts, one without internet access, and one with a red desktop background and internet access. The internet was big and scary, and you might accidentally end up on a porn site or learn how to build a bomb or something. One day I was dicking around in Encarta, and found some way to launch other applications from it, so I tried Netscape. It worked. I realized that all they did was delete the icon from the one desktop.

Since I was a dork, the teacher had already given me the secret internet account password. It was the same as the username.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
Last time I sent a fax I used Adobe Reader's built in tools to add my "signature" and then "printed" it to the office MFP in fax mode, using copy and paste to enter the phone number they included in the email with the PDF form. The fax appeared immediately in my online account on their end, meaning their incoming fax didn't involve putting marks on paper pulp either.

On both ends we have optimized the use of Fax, instead of optimizing the process so that it doesn't need the fax.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008

GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

No, we must now and forever be adversaries, our arguments a battle echoing into eternity

It's okay to have both. Nobody's gonna break your leg or anything. Hell, the only way to get a copy of your tax return transcripts from the IRS without having to wait up to three months is via fax. They insist that you be on the phone with them and stand next to the fax machine before they will begin sending them, which is a deliciously low-tech way of making sure you're the only one who receives such sensitive information. I love it. It's so IRS.

"Cyber security? Network firewalls? Digital encryption? Email? What the hell is any of that poo poo? Why bother? It's easier to have him stand by the fax where we can guarantee he'll be the only one who gets it." :allears:

You can get an electronic transcript. The link is right on the IRS homepage: https://www.irs.gov/individuals/get-transcript

It may have been turned off at one point because it was too easy or something. It's working now, I just downloaded my transcript.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
The obvious solution is to buy your future tickets with the dollar coins. It's like tokens but you can spend them other places.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
Doesn't the line out cable work as an antenna too?

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
Joke's on them, I'm going to call 111-1111 all day.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008

Sunswipe posted:

How do you know to answer a phone that doesn't have a ringer?

PA Announcement: "Sunswipe, please answer the white courtesy phone." At an airport or something.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
We had an electronic spelling checker in my 4th grade class. Mostly we'd search for ??????????????????? and it would take a long time to return electrocardiography, the longest word it knew. Or search for swears or sex* and giggle at words like sexy and sexpot.

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Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008

FilthyImp posted:

I was watching am episode of The Computer Chronicles on YT and the hot Christmas gift for, like, 88 was a module that sat on your parallel port and loudly buzzed when you typed in a misspelled word in your word processor program.

It didnt offer a correct spelling or anything. J
Just kind of bitched at you like it was looking over your shoulder.

Man, memory limitations back them were so trippy

My Mom had a typewriter with this function. It would beep when you typed a word it didn't know. Being a typewriter, a correction isn't really an option.

It also had a memory so you could print multiple copies of a thing on demand, like your resume or family christmas letter.

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