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Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012


You mean Hall of Famer Jake Beckley?

DL Crawford, Hall of Famer Joe Kelley back at first base, Max Carey to right field, call up Cedeno. Lajoie back to second base. Darrell Porter starts at catcher.

There may have been an error with my lineup, but who is mad enough to try to harness chaos?

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Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012



Postmodern Gauntlet Roster

Lineup

LF "Sliding" Billy Hamilton
2B Napoleon "Nap" Lajoie
3B George Brett
CF Willie Mays
RF Sam Crawford
DH Cesar Cedeno
1B Keith Hernandez/"Hall of Famer" Joe Kelley
SS Ozzie Smith
C Darrell Porter/Ray Schalk

Bench

IF Tom Herr
OF Max "Scoops" Carey
UT Elmer Flick

Rotation

SP Addie "The Human Hairpin" Joss
SP Noodles "the Pitcher" Hahn
SP Waite "Schoolboy" Hoyt
SP Fernando "Not a Closer" Valenzuela

Bullpen

CL Robb Nen
SU Jeff Reardon
SR Jesse Orosco
SR Todd Worrell
MR John Hiller
LR John Tudor
MU Cy Falkenberg

Non-Roster Invite

XE Denny "Glacier" Rainwater

We fully expect to take the International Championship out of the Gauntlet and proceed to suck our way through SL VIII.

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012

Mornacale posted:

Almost as sad about Polyarny losing as I am happy about the Bloggers winning. My favorite team noooo. :smith:

Aww, thanks, Mornacale. Your time as a Pirates fan must have endeared you to whimsical lost causes.

Smasher Dynamo posted:



Here's something unfortunate: Postmodernists aren't really as big on dramatic irony as other types of writers. And that's a shame, because the irony of you trading Barry Bonds to the Unicorns, who almost single-handedly killed your team by going 10-4 against you in the Gauntlet, in a round you only lost by one game? That's some pretty delightful irony right there.

But it's not really postmodern, is it?

No, but you know what is? Bonds was outperformed by Cedeño, who was a throw-in in the same trade, if one suited to the team. Meanwhile, it turns out Fernandomania was best left relegated to the dustbin of the early 80s.

There is no absolute truth in baseball. Or crying, I hear.

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012

Mornacale posted:

Okay, the Bloggers take 1981 Jeff Reardon and hope it's the upgrade I think it is.

Hahaha, well, brace yourself.

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012
Come on, that was ideal! It pulled it six different directions, while still somehow being somewhat well-managed, before exploding into a literal fiery wreck and ending in tears.

The Bearers in microcosm.

also I enjoy genre fiction

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012

mrnoun posted:

It'll be a few weeks yet before the list is finalized and sign-ups are opened. So this is your chance to participate in the process. So, readers: do you have a favorite player you want to see included?

For some Ugly Johnny Dickshot action, plus the chance to have THE OTHER Thornton Lee? I lust after the 1934 Cardinals for completely un-gamist reasons, as well, but you've got that covered.

Don't take this the wrong way, but some of those valuations seem a bit high, though maybe they're meant to be trap teams?

Also, B.

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012

Cthulhu Dreams posted:

and 6 players from your feeders of my choice.

HAHAHAHahahahahaha

Annnnyway:



Teams Selected:
1976 Baltimore Orioles
1997 Los Angeles Dodgers
1903 St. Louis Cardinals
2004 Seattle Mariners
2012 Colorado Rockies

Home City: Punta Arenas, Región de Magallanes y de la Antártica Chilena, Chile

Home Stadium: Magellan's Deadlock
(Open stadium, fair visibility, natural grass, 328/363/400/390/365)

DH Preference: Nah

Position Players:

C Mike Piazza (1997 Dodgers)
C Ramón Hernández (2012 Rockies)
1B John Olerud (2004 Mariners)
1B Eric Karros (1997 Dodgers)
2B Bobby Grich (1976 Orioles)
SS Troy Tulowitski (2012 Rockies)
SS Mark Belanger (1976 Orioles)
3B Doug DeCinces (1976 Orioles
3B Brooks Robinson (1976 Orioles)
LF Ken Singleton (1976 Orioles)
CF Ichiro Suzuki (2004 Mariners)
RF Reggie Jackson (1976 Orioles)
RF Raúl Mondesí (1997 Dodgers)
OF Carlos González (2012 Rockies)

Position Minors:

CI Paul Konerko (1997 Dodgers)
UT Michael Cuddyer (2012 Rockies)

Lineups:

CF Ichiro Suzuki
2B Bobby Grich
RF Reggie Jackson/Raúl Mondesí
C Mike Piazza
SS Troy Tulowitski
LF Ken Singleton
1B John Olerud/Eric Karros
3B Doug DeCinces

I guess use the other half of my RF platoon as DH. Yuck.

Pitching Staff:

SP Ken Holtzman (1976 Orioles)
SP Hideo Nomo (1997 Dodgers) [caught by Ramón Hernández]
SP Dennis Martínez (1976 Orioles)
SP Chan Ho Park (1997 Dodgers)
SP Freddy Garcia (2004 Mariners)

CL Tippy Martínez (1976 Orioles)
SU Eddie Guardado (2004 Mariners)
SR Rex Brothers (2012 Rockies)
SR Antonio Osuna (1997 Dodgers)
MR JJ Putz (2004 Mariners)
LR Jamie Moyer (2004 Mariners)

Pitching Minors:

SP Jhoulys Chacin (2012 Rockies)
SP Ismael Valdéz (1997 Dodgers)
RP Denny Rainwater (2012 Postmodernists)

Totally Irrelevant List of Pitchers:

Jim Palmer (1976 Orioles)
Mordecai Brown (1903 Cardinals)
Rafael Betancourt (2012 Rockies)
Rafael Soriano (2004 Mariners)

Strategy:

Hit and Run: +1
Sacrifice Bunt: -2
Squeeze Play: -3
Trying for extra bases: +1
Stealing Bases: +1
Aggressively Tagging Up: +1
Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): -2
Giving Intentional Walks: -4
Pitching Around Good Hitters: -3
Bringing the Infield In: -1
Guarding the Lines: 0
Making Cutoff Throws: -1
Bringing in Pinch Hitters: -1
Bringing in Pinch Runners: -1
Bringing in Defensive Replacements: +3
Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: -1
Letting pitchers pitch throw trouble: +2
Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: +2

Pete Ladd fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Jan 15, 2013

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012

quote:

Puenta Arenas, Peru

Argh.

quote:

"the Rain had come"

Yay!



DL Park and E'ery Day Eddie Guardado, call up Valdez to take Park's rotation spot.

New Bullpen Alignment:
CL Tippy
SU Putz
SR Brothers
SR Osuna
MR Moyer ('04)
LR Chacin

This should give me another bench spot, which should be filled with Cargo.

Karros will have to continue being awful at 1B until Olerud recovers. Discontinue the 1B platoon, btw.

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012


Hey, Grinnblade, you know you can change the number of pitchers/position players on the roster? I ask because I don't think people want the seven-man bullpen; I certainly don't - and having a short bench without a DH isn't much fun either.

Taking that into consideration, and with the need to get some rest days for my guys:

CF Suzuki
LF Singleton
RF Jackson
C Piazza
1B Olerud
SS Tulo/Belanger
2B Grich/Cuddyer
3B DeCinces/Robinson

Bench:
C Hernandez
RF Mondesi
OF Gonzalez

Switch Cargo to the DH duties.

SP Holtzman
SP Nomo
SP D. Martinez
SP Garcia
SP Chacin

CL T. Martinez
SU Putz
SR Brothers
SR Osuna
MR Moyer
LR Garcia

Thanks.

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012
Excellent, then you'll be fine with not benefiting.

Please send me whatever you would have sent cbx. I have a much better gimmick! And I need the help!

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012
C, I'm enjoying this.



Make Brooks Robinson the strong side of the 3B platoon (i.e. vs. RHP).

Congratulations to the Bangers, I am looking forward to many brief occasions wearing the Triple Crown (or reigns as its component champions, assuming the likely outcome).

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012

quote:

Analysis
You know, looking at your team I have no idea why you're doing so badly. It may possibly just be that you're stuck in the TL Downing with CERN and Omaha, though.

Don't you soften the blow!



Well, turns out penguin-baiting is more dangerous then I thought. DL Tippy, Jhoulys, Olerud. Take Park off the DL and install him as fifth starter. Ismael Valdez up from long man to be fourth starter. Rex Brothers is the new closer, call up Denny Raiiiiinwater to short relief, Jamie Moyer to long relief. Freddy Garcia can recover as theoretical middle reliever. Call up Konerko to on-the-job training as first baseman.

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012

Mornacale posted:

In actual-things-that-could-ever-happen news, the Bloggers really need one more reliever now that Orosco is gone (which is very sad). Our main area of depth is at Starter. Anybody who needs a boost in your rotation, or a little extra depth, and has a good reliever to give up, get at me.

Relievers! Sure, we got those. Can I interest you in the Lord of the LOOGYs, the Sinister Submariner, Mike Myers? Or perhaps the lyrically named Shiggy Hasegawa? World Series Champion Ryan Franklin? All of 2004 vintage. I suppose I can offer Dyar Miller ('76) or a huge pile of dudes from the 2012 Rockies, including :siren:Jamie Moyer:siren:!

These dudes are available to all, of course, not just those Bloggahs.

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012

UZworm posted:

Hello my baby, hello my honey, hello my ragtime gal!

Proposal for you, wherein I trade a starter for a reliever along with two pieces from your feeder team:

Trade:
2011 Cole Hamels SP

for

2012 Rex Brothers RP
2012 Dexter Fowler OF
2012 Johnny 'Better than Topher Rigney defensively' Herrera UT



I am fine with this, though Rex has been pitching pretty awesomely for me. I believe he is currently my closer, but that's fine, as I have Denny Rainwater! he's so dreamy waiting in the wings. I will ask though, are you sure you want Herrera? Last I checked, Scooter was hitting stupidly well for Marauder's Phoenixes. Either way works for me, and thanks.

Plenty more relievers (and other stuff) still available. Bret Boone, the year after he hit 35 dingers and won the Gold Glove at second! Though he won it that year, too. Whatever. Uh, Raul Ibanez? Todd Zeile?

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012

Mornacale posted:

All these players are poop and poo poo, though. There's plenty of guys on your feeders I'm interested in, but you're tanking so you knew that. If you want to let me know what your actual roster looks like, I can make you an offer.

quote:

Totally Irrelevant List of Pitchers:

Jim Palmer (1976 Orioles)
Mordecai Brown (1903 Cardinals)
Rafael Betancourt (2012 Rockies)
Rafael Soriano (2004 Mariners)

It will include those guys and Homer Smoot. Everyone else not on my current roster is for sale, and some who are! (not the best ones, obv) The feeders include some young arms on the Orioles and doubtless other nice things as well.

UZworm, I'll throw in Boone, maybe it'll patch your 2B hole.

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012

UZworm posted:

All right, slight change to tact here:

Proposal
Spooners trade:
2011 Cole Hamels

PMs trade:
2012 Rex Brothers
2012 Marco Scutero
2004 Bret Boone
2012 Matt Belisle



I still Accept this. For the haters, it's a currently great reliever, a possibly good reliever, a startable second baseman with power, and a utility man. All for a lefty who Mogul doesn't seem to like very much, and has a 4.50 ERA or so. This is the limit of what I'm willing to give up for Hamels.

Gibson had like one good year for BWFC and otherwise won't OBP over .280.

quote:

I'm interested in '97 Scott Radinsky, plus I guess '76 Grant Jackson/'04 Putz/'12 Belisle. Make me an offer for some of those guys. Or multiple offers. Or whatever.

OK, let me look.

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012

Mornacale posted:

I'm interested in '97 Scott Radinsky, plus I guess '76 Grant Jackson/'04 Putz/'12 Belisle. Make me an offer for some of those guys. Or multiple offers. Or whatever.



My more mature version of Holtzman is doing pretty well in front of my infield D - I'll take a shot on your young Ken Holtzman for Grant Jackson and Radinsky?

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012
If a generic deadballer with a 7 ERA is "up a notch," I am flabbergasted and gobsmacked to consider the lower notches. But no, I'm not gonna ask Smasher to enter in a bunch of terrible baseballers like Bob Rhoads.

Since I am apparently not selling Rex Brothers, would you like Ol' Eddie Guardado from 2004? He's hurt for me, but not for you. 163 ERA+, sub 1 WHIP, 3+ K/BB, etc.

Pete Ladd fucked around with this message at 09:10 on Jan 30, 2013

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012


Pitching changes:

SP Nomo
SP Chacin
SP D. Martinez
SP Valdez
SP Garcia

CL Putz
SU Brothers
SR T. Martinez
SR Osuna
MR Park
LR Moyer

Also, please use Cargo in left for the remainder of the season.

Mornacale, can we agree on Jackson, Radinsky, and Belisle for Holtzman? I think Guardado is better than all three, but you're welcome to disagree.

Pick TWO!
Coburns (1 point)
Web 2.o Bloggers (4 points)

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012
Rochester and Burma. I like the other teams, but it feels like they are too dependent on good rolls.

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012
The Pick 'Em: A Tradition!

Pick TWO!
Burma Imperialists
Springfield Softballers

Coburns over Unspecs 5-1
Landers over Mashers 6-4

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012
Pick'em: Hope and Futility
Pick TWO!
Burma Imperialists
Cuba Smokers

Pick 'em FOREVER!
Pick the winner, the number of games (best-of-five), and score of the final game
Luna Landers @ South Bolton Eazy W's, 5 games, 4-3
Finger Lakes Phoenixes @ Lombard St. Gumshoes, 4 games, 4-2
Coburns @ Fukuoka Finger-Bangers, 4 games, 5-3
Rockford Losers @ Cancun Tornados 4 games, 3-2

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012
I want to bet on the Babe, but I can't get behind the Biospark rotation.

Burma and Seattle to advance

Love the obits, Smasher, thanks again for doing them.

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012
The Pick'em United Can Never Be Defeated
Pick TWO!
Burma Imperialists
Florida Dickshots
Rochester Generics
San Juan Elephants

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012
Cancun Tornadoes @ Fukuoka Finger-Bangers, in 7, 7-6
Finger Lakes Phoenixes @ South Bolton Eazy W's, in 5, 10-3

Pick 'em: The Will and the Way
Pick TWO
Burma Imperialists
Dubai Dervishes
Portland Bulldogs
Rochester Generics

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012
Considering my track record and the moving plea by Theodore Ballgame, I will ask if a team destined for greater success (i.e. not immediate relegation) would like to trade up to grab Ted Williams?

Thanks for the walk machine, Marauder.

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012
I'm not about to craft a deal for each person interested, just make an offer. Promptly, if possible, as I'm on the clock. I'd be willing to trade down, of course, if it's an expansion team.

cbx posted:

Well, you don't HAVE to pick Ted Williams. There's Walter Johnson, Pete Alexander, 2 Barry Bonds, George Brett, Willie Mays, Nap Lajoie, etc. He's definitely not the consensus #1, just depends on what your team needs.

Show me a team that doesn't need Ted Williams and I will show you the Coburns. Also, hahaha, George Brett. In further humor news, I picked '62 Willie Mays as my prize for winning the EC, and look where that got me.

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012
Ahh, hell with it. Teddy, I hope you find success elsewhere. This would have worked perfectly if only the Suicides or Biosparks had been just a little more awful.

The Patagonian Postmodernists select



Ronald Reagan!

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012

ScottyJSno posted:

'45 Phil Cavarretta is open to offers. SS, or SP or RP is wanted.

Can I interest you in an '04 Eddie Guardado or '76 Tippy Martinez?

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012
Oh, goddammit. The Patagonian Postmodernists select

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6hu4aLXv7U

3B George Brett

We must have ALL the doubles.

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012
Anybody want to move into the top of the third (that is, now) and pick up a starting pitcher before they fall off a cliff after Kevin Brown? There's a good SS in Trammell and not-rookie McGwire and a number of other pieces there. A deal for the the pick outright or a trade-down would be fine, either way.

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012

mrnoun posted:

I would be interested in this pick. What are you looking for?

Probably nothing you'd be willing to give. You've got an amazing lineup and rotation, but not much depth. Ah well.

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012
Double posting to force the issue and drafting



Alan Trammell. We have Tulo, so are willing to move him to a shortstop-bereft org.

I assume Cthulhu Dreams or cbx has traded for the next pick? Oh, it's still Monathin? Huh.

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012

ScottyJSno posted:

Also for sale is a 1945 Paul Derringer (Career) ERA+ 108 and WAR 37.0 Looking for RP.


This deal's still available if you're selling Cavaretta.

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012
The Patagonian Postmodernists select



Earl Averill. And señoritas, he's available!

gingemidget is even now approaching the podium, having already traded down. The tension is palpable.

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012


Home City: Punta Arenas, Región de Magallanes y de la Antártica Chilena, Chile

Home Stadium: Magellan's Deadlock
(Open stadium, fair visibility, natural grass (cut to a length best for all my groundballers), 338/373/405/390/365)

DH Preference: Nah

Position Players:

C Mike Piazza (1997 Dodgers)
C Ramón Hernández (2012 Rockies)
1B John Olerud (2004 Mariners)
1B Ferris Fain (1948 Athletics)
2B Bobby Grich (1976 Orioles)
SS Alan Trammell (1986 Tigers)
SS Troy Tulowitski (2012 Rockies)
3B George Brett (1977 Royals)
3B Brooks Robinson (1976 Orioles)
LF Ken Singleton (1976 Orioles)
CF Ichiro Suzuki (2004 Mariners)
RF Reggie Jackson (1976 Orioles)
OF Earl Averill (1937 Indians)
OF Carlos González (2012 Rockies)

Position Minors:

1B Paul Konerko (1997 Dodgers)
3B Doug DeCinces (1976 Orioles)

Lineups:

CF Ichiro Suzuki
2B Bobby Grich
1B Ferris Fain
C Mike Piazza
3B George Brett
LF Ken Singleton
RF Reggie Jackson/Carlos González
SS Alan Trammell

Bench:

C Ramón Hernández
1B John Olerud
IF Troy Tulowitzki
3B Brooks Robinson
OF Earl Averill

Pitching Staff:

SP Pete Alexander (1922 Cubs)
SP Jim Palmer (1976 Orioles)
SP Mordecai Brown (1903 Cardinals)
SP Ken Holtzman (1976 Orioles) [caught by Ramón Hernández]
SP Hideo Nomo (1997 Dodgers)

CL Rafael Soriano (2004 Mariners)
SU Rafael Betancourt (2012 Rockies)
SR Rex Brothers (2012 Rockies)
SR Antonio Osuna (1997 Dodgers)
MR JJ Putz (2004 Mariners)
LR Jamie Moyer (2004 Mariners)

Pitching Minors:

SP Jhoulys Chacin (2012 Rockies)
SP Dennis Martínez (1976 Orioles)
RP Denny Rainwater (2012 Postmodernists)

List of Those Ground Up In The Mechanism of History (but available for purchase!):
Tippy Martínez (1976 Orioles)
Eddie Guardado (2004 Mariners)
Ismael Valdéz (1997 Dodgers)
Freddy Garcia (2004 Mariners)
Mike Cuellar (1976 Orioles)
Michael Cuddyer (2012 Rockies)
Homer Smoot (1903 Cardinals)
Mark Belanger (1976 Orioles)
Bret Boone (2004 Mariners)
Eric Karros (1997 Dodgers)Raúl Mondesí (1997 Dodgers)Chan Ho Park (1997 Dodgers)

Strategy:

Hit and Run: +1
Sacrifice Bunt: -2
Squeeze Play: -3
Trying for extra bases: +1
Stealing Bases: +1
Aggressively Tagging Up: +1
Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): -2
Giving Intentional Walks: -4
Pitching Around Good Hitters: -3
Bringing the Infield In: -1
Guarding the Lines: 0
Making Cutoff Throws: -1
Bringing in Pinch Hitters: -1
Bringing in Pinch Runners: -1
Bringing in Defensive Replacements: +3
Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: -1
Letting pitchers pitch throw trouble: +2
Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: +2

Pete Ladd fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Mar 1, 2013

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012
Welp. I guess start Olerud over Fain. Based on that roll, I guess there's going to be a bit of a Rainwater delay.

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012


Bob "Mr. Bean" Buhl with a clutch complete game win for CERN, there.



Pick'em for Week 1

Detroit Cougars @ Queens Mercuries

Lombard St. Gumshoes @ Arkansas Destroyers

Cancun Tornados @ Coburns

Title Matches

Intercontinental Title
Ryleh Cultists (c) @ Walney Rakers

United States Title
Burma Imperialists @ Rockford Losers (c)

Heavyweight Title
Barons @ Finger Lakes Phoenixes (c)

e: Oh, and call up DeCinces to start for Brett. I knew that bastard wouldn't work out.

Pete Ladd fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Mar 6, 2013

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012

quote:

Analysis

I can't think of any quick fixes for your team.

We are engaged in a new praxis that has smashed aside hidebound concepts like "power" and "strikeouts" and "youth."

What part of Fain's roll was bad? Is his rating being depressed by fielding, or is he just young?



Canton Catastrophes @ Jacksonville Jobbers

Million Dollar Men @ Tijuana Mules

Web 2.0 Bloggers @ Antarctica Unspecifieds

Harvard Elites @ Montreal Manatees

Intercontinental Title
Ryleh Cultists (c) @ Detroit Cougars

United States Title
Rockford Losers (c) @ Coburns

Heavyweight Title
Queens Mercuries @ Finger Lakes Phoenixes (c)

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Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012


Rakes, PoMos, Tornados, Catastrophes.

Larkin-Downing and European Championships
South Bolton Eazy W's (c) @ Barons

United States Championship
Coburns @ Rockford Losers (c)

Heavyweight Championship
Queens Mercuries (c) @ Montreal Manatees

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