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fat greasy puto
Dec 30, 2001

Anime Lover David Beckham
good bet

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jyrka
Jan 21, 2005


Potato Count: 2 small potatoes
We did it!

jyrka
Jan 21, 2005


Potato Count: 2 small potatoes
Let's try another one for Estonia - Serbia tomorrow then. I reckon Serbia to win at nearly even odds is a good shout. They've generally much better players, and Estonia are missing their main central defender and striker, though I imagine Estonia are much better motivated and prepared so I don't expect a huge win or anything like that. Other bets to consider: Serbia win to nil, Estonia not to score, and under 2.5 goals. If I had to predict a specific score I'd go 2-0 to Serbia, maybe 1-0.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Serbia are dodgy as gently caress and I would NOT bet on them or their national league at all

jyrka
Jan 21, 2005


Potato Count: 2 small potatoes
I guess that's why the odds are so high. But they still have players from Chelsea, City, Inter and the like.

duckmaster
Sep 13, 2004
Mr and Mrs Duck go and stay in a nice hotel.

One night they call room service for some condoms as things are heating up.

The guy arrives and says "do you want me to put it on your bill"

Mr Duck says "what kind of pervert do you think I am?!

QUACK QUACK
I remember ages ago I posted in this thread, or one before it, with a huge bet where I basically just clicked on about 8 teams at random and put a Goliath on, so basically covering all the singles, doubles, trebles etc up to the accumulator. If any of you remember it it was a spectacular failure, so I'm having another go, this time with research!

Some interesting games in the Asian World Cup qualifiers today.. This is the last round of games and the teams I'm betting on will qualify today if they win; their opponents are just playing for pride (except UAE vs Saudi Arabia where the winner takes all). All times UTC & all bets Paddypower.

Bet One assumes the stronger teams will score more goals against their opponents and gives them a difficult handicap, based largely on their odds but partly on current form, home advantage and expected result. Australia & Japan have -2 handicaps so must win by at least 3 goals; Uzbekistan and Iran have -1 so must win by 2. The UAE vs Saudi Arabia game is the closest of the bunch so is win only.

I have chosen Lucky 31 to largely increase my chances of breaking even and going on to win. I've put in the (approx) winnings for scenarios in which I have three, four or five winning selections per bet (having only two doesn't bear thinking about).


quote:

Bet One 180/1

09:00 Australia -2 vs Jordan 3/1
10:34 Japan -2 vs Syria 7/5
13:00 Uzbekistan -1 vs Bahrain EVENS
14:30 Iran -1 vs Oman 6/4
15:00 UAE vs Saudi Arabia 11/4

Lucky 31 (covering all singles, doubles, trebles, quads and the accumulator). 31 bets @ £0.25 stakes. £7.75 to return up to £211.72.

If Five Wins: £211.72
If Four Wins: £39.48
If Three Wins: £10.16


Bet Two 22/1

09:00 Australia -1 vs Jordan 11/10
10:34 Japan/Japan HT/FT vs Syria 4/7 (annoyingly no -1 handicap on this market)
13:00 Uzbekistan vs Bahrain 3/10
14:30 Iran vs Oman 4/9
15:00 UAE vs Saudi Arabia +1 11/4

Lucky 31. 31 bets @ £0.50 stakes £15.50.

If Five Wins: £100.86
If Four Wins: £29.80
If Three Wins: £10.24


Bets Three & Four follow more or less the same rules as One & Two except that instead of backing Saudi Arabia we're backing the UAE. This is generally frowned upon and would be A Bad Idea if we were just putting on accumulators, except for he betting method: we're covering our bets with Lucky 31s so it's actually possible for Bets One & Two to win on every individual bet, plus the combined 30 individual bets between Bet Three & Bet Four if Saudi Arabia win and the UAE don't. The closeness of the odds and the fact that this is a Winner Takes All game suggest it could go either way, but neither side is going to be playing for a draw here.


quote:

Bet Three 25/1

09:00 Australia -2 vs Jordan 3/1
10:34 Japan -2 vs Syria 7/5
13:00 Uzbekistan -1 vs Bahrain EVENS
14:30 Iran -1 vs Oman 6/4
15:00 UAE vs Saudi Arabia 11/10

Lucky 31. 31 bets @ £0.25 stakes £7.75.

If Five Wins: £134.84
If Four Wins: £43.11
If Three Wins: £11.16


Bet Four 12/1

09:00 Australia -1 vs Jordan 11/10
10:34 Japan/Japan HT/FT vs Syria 4/7 (annoyingly no -1 handicap on this market)
13:00 Uzbekistan vs Bahrain 3/10
14:30 Iran vs Oman 4/9
15:00 UAE vs Saudi Arabia 11/10 (no handicap market on the UAE so it'll have to stay as it is)

Lucky 31. 31 bets @ £0.50 stakes £15.50.

If Five Wins: £64.71
If Four Wins: £26.09
If Three Wins: £6.68

Total liabilities over all four bets: £46.50.

Provided all of Bets One & Two win then thats £270.98 from them, plus £44.38 from Bet Three and £21.91 from Bet Four which equals £337.27.
With four winning selections from each I will be due approx £130-£150.
With three winning selections from each approx £38-45 depending on which ones they are.

Watch and learn kids!

they're all going to be draws


edit: Have just noticed the Japan HT/FT bet screws it up a bit as they may be drawing at half time but go on to win by only 1 goal, meaning neither 1/2 or 3/4 will win the full amount. Oh well, it's on now!

edit2: William Hill has Japan -1 at 4/9 and UAE +1 at 2/9.

duckmaster fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Mar 29, 2016

duckmaster
Sep 13, 2004
Mr and Mrs Duck go and stay in a nice hotel.

One night they call room service for some condoms as things are heating up.

The guy arrives and says "do you want me to put it on your bill"

Mr Duck says "what kind of pervert do you think I am?!

QUACK QUACK
Australia finished 5-1
Japan finished 5-0 with a quickfire treble in the 86th, 90th and 93rd minute. Leading at half time thanks to a Syrian OG in the first half.

All bets winning so far!


edit: Messed up the odds a bit on my OP I think. Here's the accumulator I put on William Hill:

duckmaster fucked around with this message at 13:30 on Mar 29, 2016

jyrka
Jan 21, 2005


Potato Count: 2 small potatoes

jyrka posted:

Let's try another one for Estonia - Serbia tomorrow then. I reckon Serbia to win at nearly even odds is a good shout. They've generally much better players, and Estonia are missing their main central defender and striker, though I imagine Estonia are much better motivated and prepared so I don't expect a huge win or anything like that. Other bets to consider: Serbia win to nil, Estonia not to score, and under 2.5 goals. If I had to predict a specific score I'd go 2-0 to Serbia, maybe 1-0.

:homebrew: We did it. :homebrew:

fat greasy puto
Dec 30, 2001

Anime Lover David Beckham

duckmaster posted:

Australia finished 5-1
Japan finished 5-0 with a quickfire treble in the 86th, 90th and 93rd minute. Leading at half time thanks to a Syrian OG in the first half.

All bets winning so far!


edit: Messed up the odds a bit on my OP I think. Here's the accumulator I put on William Hill:



rough one, uae hosed that up

duckmaster
Sep 13, 2004
Mr and Mrs Duck go and stay in a nice hotel.

One night they call room service for some condoms as things are heating up.

The guy arrives and says "do you want me to put it on your bill"

Mr Duck says "what kind of pervert do you think I am?!

QUACK QUACK

fat greasy puto posted:

rough one, uae hosed that up

Uzbekistan only won 1-0 as well.


Lokomotiv Plovdiv v Pirin Blagoevgrad
Lokomotiv Plovdiv -1 goal @ 3.30

Creteil v Clermont Foot
Clermont Foot @ 2.70

RKC Waalwijk v FC Eindhoven
FC Eindhoven -1 goal @ 3.40

£1 treble @ 30.29

duckmaster
Sep 13, 2004
Mr and Mrs Duck go and stay in a nice hotel.

One night they call room service for some condoms as things are heating up.

The guy arrives and says "do you want me to put it on your bill"

Mr Duck says "what kind of pervert do you think I am?!

QUACK QUACK
Plovdiv 4-2 :woop:
Clermont 3-0 :woop:
Eindhoven 2-1 :eng99:

fat gay nonce
May 13, 2003
actual penis length: |-----------|



Winner, PWM POTM January
Middlesbrough, Preston, Wigan, Wycombe, Eastleigh, Annan Athletic some of the above

Newcastle are longer odds but might be worth a punt however they are loving terrible so BEWARE

fat greasy puto
Dec 30, 2001

Anime Lover David Beckham
this one hurt

Raffles
Dec 7, 2004

quote:


English Premier League
Arsenal v Crystal Palace
17th of April 2016 4:00 pm
Both Teams To Score
Yes @ 5/6
Win

Italian Serie A
Fiorentina v Sassuolo
17th of April 2016 2:00 pm
Both Teams To Score
Yes @ 4/5
Win


Italian Serie A
Hellas Verona v Frosinone
17th of April 2016 2:00 pm
Both Teams To Score
Yes @ 8/13
Win


English Premier League
Bournemouth v Liverpool
17th of April 2016 1:30 pm
Both Teams To Score
Yes @ 8/13
Win


Scottish Cup Matches
Rangers v Celtic
17th of April 2016 12:00 pm
Both Teams To Score
Yes @ 8/13
Win

the foot knower

The Big Taff Man
Nov 22, 2005


Official Manchester United Posting Partner 2015/16
Fan of Britches
Real men post their bets before a match

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

shut up blegum
Dec 17, 2008


--->Plastic Lawn<---
Some high stakes betting action itt

Raffles
Dec 7, 2004

The Big Taff Man posted:

Real men post their bets before a match

if i'd posted it before it wouldn't have won

Breath Ray
Nov 19, 2010
How much did you win Raffles? Looks like you had odds of 11/10 by the end there

Raffles
Dec 7, 2004

Breath Ray posted:

How much did you win Raffles? Looks like you had odds of 11/10 by the end there

If memory serves the odds were around 13/1. So it was a welcome £13 in the paddy power account in the end.

I've got another acca up my sleeve for this evening. Watch this space.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
my flutter is looking good

Breath Ray
Nov 19, 2010
You should see a cardiologist

Wazzerphuk
Feb 9, 2001

Hating Chelsea before it was cool
Winner of the PWM POTM for September
Winner of the PWM POTM for January
Co-Winner of the PWM POTM for March

Pissflaps posted:

my flutter is looking good

What are you going to spend your 10p on? Back in the day you could get a Freddo for that, but not now. Not now...

:(

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Wazzerphuk posted:

What are you going to spend your 10p on? Back in the day you could get a Freddo for that, but not now. Not now...

:(

fat gay nonce
May 13, 2003
actual penis length: |-----------|



Winner, PWM POTM January
Hibs and Rangers btts
Rayo and Malaga btts

Pays just under 3

fat gay nonce
May 13, 2003
actual penis length: |-----------|



Winner, PWM POTM January
First is in, come on Spanish teams

fat greasy puto
Dec 30, 2001

Anime Lover David Beckham

fat greasy puto posted:

bet all 4 overs in paraguay tonight up to 3, but not at 3.5. thanks for reading

these all covered fyi

fat greasy puto fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Apr 21, 2016

Breath Ray
Nov 19, 2010

fat gay nonce posted:

Hibs and Rangers btts
Rayo and Malaga btts

Pays just under 3

what does this mean

fat gay nonce
May 13, 2003
actual penis length: |-----------|



Winner, PWM POTM January
It was both teams to score in those two games, Malaga let me down tho

Wazzerphuk
Feb 9, 2001

Hating Chelsea before it was cool
Winner of the PWM POTM for September
Winner of the PWM POTM for January
Co-Winner of the PWM POTM for March
They scored in the 91st minute!!

fat gay nonce
May 13, 2003
actual penis length: |-----------|



Winner, PWM POTM January
Haha Christ I had turned the stream off, epic injury time goals ftw

fat gay nonce
May 13, 2003
actual penis length: |-----------|



Winner, PWM POTM January
Ado den haag vs Alkmaar BTTS
Cambuur Leeuwarden vs Willem II BTTS

Pays 2.3

Breath Ray
Nov 19, 2010
so is btts seen as overvalued? Im going to sit down this weekend with yoyr posts and open an account so I can get that sweet free bet money rolling in. Still don't understand what laying a bet is tho.

fat gay nonce
May 13, 2003
actual penis length: |-----------|



Winner, PWM POTM January

Breath Ray posted:

so is btts seen as overvalued? Im going to sit down this weekend with yoyr posts and open an account so I can get that sweet free bet money rolling in. Still don't understand what laying a bet is tho.

I don't think it's necessarily overvalued, it's more that it's a bet that is quite easy to research based on recent form.

The Big Taff Man
Nov 22, 2005


Official Manchester United Posting Partner 2015/16
Fan of Britches

Breath Ray posted:

so is btts seen as overvalued? Im going to sit down this weekend with yoyr posts and open an account so I can get that sweet free bet money rolling in. Still don't understand what laying a bet is tho.

Laying a bet is you being the bookie.

So if Team A are 2-1 to win against Team B

If you bet £10 on team A and they won you would win £20 plus your stake
If you lay £10 on team A and they lost you would win £5 plus your stake.

Breath Ray
Nov 19, 2010
I don't understand the last sentence there taff

The Big Taff Man
Nov 22, 2005


Official Manchester United Posting Partner 2015/16
Fan of Britches

Breath Ray posted:

I don't understand the last sentence there taff

You become the bookie, so essentially you're taking someones £5 bet on them to win at 2-1.

Sad Panda
Sep 22, 2004

I'm a Sad Panda.

The Big Taff Man posted:

You become the bookie, so essentially you're taking someones £5 bet on them to win at 2-1.

Right. And there's then the commission which is 2% with Smarkets and 5% with Betfair.

shut up blegum
Dec 17, 2008


--->Plastic Lawn<---
Huh, is that what laying bets is? I thought it was when you had a 3-4 team accumulator and you've won 3 games, and say Liverpool has to win their game for your accumulator to come in. You then place a bet for Liverpool to draw/lose so you win money no matter what. If Liverpool win => accumulator pays out, if they lose => your single bet pays out.

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fat greasy puto
Dec 30, 2001

Anime Lover David Beckham
bunnyx how do you feel about over2.5 goals in those two games you posted?

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