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terrez posted:It's fun being at MEPS and talking to all the Air Force recruits shipping out. Half of them are Security Forces and a good portion of them specifically asked for that job. The best was a guy that was all "yea man I'm totally going to be on the sniper team and embed with seals Aren't they just fuckin MPs?
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Christoff posted:They care about tattoos that aren't visible in shirt/shorts? Huh? I'd understand a swastika or something but lo Wow. Back in 07 one of my sailors got sleeves and I just asked her where she got it done because it was really awesome work.
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Christoff posted:Marines man. Can't have anything visible in PT gear you can't cover with your hand. I think the Navy is the same policy but no one cares. IIRC, Navy policy is "not visible in dress uniform" which has long sleeves.
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DRONES CURE HAJI posted:are you really basing your decision on what service to join on nicknames? maybe the marines really are for you "heh, chair force pussies. I wanna be hardcore" *joines Marines during drawdown to peacetime*
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Christoff posted:but who wants to get associated with a branch that is called the chairforce LOL The Marine Corps is the only branch of the U.S. Armed Forces that recruits people specifically to Fight. The Army emphasizes personal development (an Army of One), the Navy promises fun (let the journey begin), the Air Force offers security (its a great way of life).Missing from all the advertisements is the hard fact that a soldier's life is to suffer and perhaps to die for his people and take lives at the risk of his/her own.Even the thematic music of the services reflects this evasion. The Army's Caisson Song describes a pleasant country outing. Over hill and dale, lacking only a picnic basket. Anchors Aweigh...the Navy's celebration of the joys of sailing could have been penned by Jimmy Buffet. The Air Force song is a lyric poem of blue skies and engine thrust. All is joyful, and invigorating, and safe. There are no land mines in the dales nor snipers behind the hills, no submarines or cruise missiles threaten the ocean jaunt, no bandits are lurking in the wild blue yonder.The Marines' Hymn, by contrast, is all combat. "We fight our Country's battles," "First to fight for right and freedom," "We have fought in every clime and place where we could take a gun," "In many a strife we have fought for life and never lost our nerve."The choice is made clear. You may join the Army to go to adventure training, or join the Navy to go to Bangkok, or join the Air Force to go to computer school.You join the Marine Corps to go to War! Stop a soldier on the street and ask him to name a battle of World War One. Pick a sailor at random and ask for a description of the epic fight of the Bon Homme Richard. Ask an airman who Major Thomas McGuire was and what is named after him. I am not carping and there is no sheer in this criticism. All of the services have glorious traditions but no one teaches the young soldier, sailor or airman what his uniform means and why he should be proud of it.But...ask a Marine about World War One and you will hear of the wheat field at Belleau Wood and the courage of the Fourth Marine Brigade comprised of the Fifth and Sixth Marines. Faced with an enemy of superior numbers entrenched in tangled forest undergrowth the Marines received an order to attack that even the charitable cannot call ill-advised. It was insane. Artillery support was absent and air support hadn't been invented yet. Even so the Brigade charged German machine guns with only bayonets, grenades, and an indomitable fighting spirit. A bandy-legged little barrel of a Gunnery Sergeant, Daniel J. Daly, rallied his company with a shout, "Come on you sons a *****es, do you want to live forever?" He took out three machine guns himself.French liaison-officers hardened though they were by four years of trench bound slaughter were shocked as the Marines charged across the open wheat field under a blazing sun directly into the teeth of enemy fire. Their action was so anachronistic on the twentieth-century field of battle that they might as well have been swinging cutlasses. But the enemy was only human. The Boche could not stand up to the onslought.So the Marines took Belleau Wood. The Germans, those that survived, thereafter referred to the Marines as "Tuefel Hunden" (Devil Dogs) and the French in tribute renamed the woods "Bois de la Brigade de Marine" (Woods of the Brigade of Marines).Every Marine knows this story and dozens more. We are taught them in boot camp as a regular part of the curriculum. Every Marine will always be taught them! You can learn to don a gas mask anytime, even on the plane in route to the war zone, but before you can wear the Eagle, Globe and Anchor and claim the title United States Marine you must first know about the Marines who made that emblem and title meaningful. So long as you can march and shoot and revere the legacy of the Corps you can take your place in line. A soldier wears branch of service insignia on his collar, metal shoulder pins and cloth sleeve patches to identify his unit. Sailors wear a rating badge that identifies what they do for the Navy. Marines wear only the Eagle, Globe and Anchor together with personal ribbons and their CHERISHED marksmanship badges. They know why the uniforms are the colors they are and what each color means. There is nothing on a Marine's uniform to indicate what he or she does nor what unit the Marine belongs to. You cannot tell by looking at a Marine whether you are seeing a truck driver, a computer programmer or a machine gunner or a cook or a baker. The Marine is amorphous, even anonymous, by conscious design. The Marine is a Marine.Every Marine is a rifleman first and foremost, a Marine first, last and Always!
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friend of the family DEATH TURBO posted:the air force cares deeply about putting people to rest respectfully and helping families recover It's funny because they literally tossed remains in a dump.
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Damage8185 posted:I'm 23, work a blue collar job that pays 30-35k a year, and have a few college credits. I'm expected to make those same figures for the next 3-4 years until my seniority improves. From what I've been reading, I can use USERRA to join and hold my seniority slot until I'm through with the military, at which point if I return to my current job I'm looking at 75-85k a year. Is joining to learn a skill and get an "easy" way to pay for college advisable? Plus there's the idea of serving my country and trying to get out of my state. Doesn't USERRA seniority holds only apply to mobilized Reserve and Guard?
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The charge would be Article 115, Malingering but I have never heard of it actually happening only used as a threat by chiefs.
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Feeble posted:So I'm kind of considering joining a branch of the military, don't know which yet because my life atm is kind of going downhill. I'm midway through college but most likely I'm going to drop out soon because I've been a lazy gently caress up who procrastinates way too much for my own good, which means my parents sure as hell aren't going to continue paying my tuition. I'm kind of leaning towards national guard right now because looking at their education benefits on http://usmilitary.about.com/ they apparently cover 100% of the cost for Ohio state schools which is what I'm attending. I assume their coverage depends on what kind of degree I'm going for but since that's medical technology I don't really see that being an issue. My only real reservation about it right now is that, simply put, I'm a scrawny motherfucker with the muscle mass of a rubber band which is obviously something I'd need to fix before hand. Honestly I kind of feel like the reason I've been procrastinating so much is that I've kind of been going through a slump for well...the past few years really, and I feel forcing myself to go through basic training and being shouted at by a drill sergeant might actually be just the thing to pull me out of it and help me get back on track. Read the OP. There's a flow chart for cases just like you.
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sforzacio posted:You know that Katy Perry video where her boyfriend cheats on her so she gets even by joining the Marines and is like, "This is the part of me that you can never, ever, ever, take away from me~" Including joints and sense organs.
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Feed Me A Cat posted:I can't speak to the Air Force side of this, but oh my gently caress don't go to law school. If you go back far enough, you'll see some stupid posts from me where I was contemplating enlisting in the US Navy Reserve as a Cryptologic Technician and after that the Air National Guard. Sucked it up, now I'm going to community college and taking IT classes, scheduling certification tests in the near future while I'm also in the screening/hiring process for a job with Customs and Border Protection. (I'm a GiP success story now To add to this, a lawyer acquaintance of mine just got enough of a raise at the firm to stop needing to deliver pizzas at night to make ends meet.
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Xeom posted:What branch would best be able to put my chemical engineering degree to good use? Or would my degree not really be that useful to the military? Your degree's field is entirely irrelevant to the military.
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LingcodKilla posted:So... I just decided to look in to the Navy Reserve because my job sucks and learning something new seemed good. I got a 97/99 in the test today. I dont even know were to begin to narrow down what I should look at. MA is not a good choice.
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An Inquisitive Bean posted:I have thought about going into the Navy just because I come from a long line of Navy folks. My one reservation about the Navy is the idea of working on the carriers though. I don’t know how I feel about being indoors for 6 months at a time. Um, carriers don't submerge. You can go topside whenever flight ops aren't happening and at least look out the hanger doors at other times.
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Booblord Zagats posted:If you're enlisting in a peace time military, for fucks sake join the goddamed Coast Guard, they at least still have a job to do so they can't get AS far up their own rear end with decorum and pointless parading Or the Navy where they still deploy around the world and do exercises in places like Japan instead of places like Fort Leonard Wood in peacetime.
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Mr. Nice! posted:People don't believe me when I say that they don't really need to be able to swim to join the navy. They are surprised that army swimming reqs are sometimes more stringent. Yeah, I passed third class swimmer and never cared about it again.
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Godholio posted:Is she even aware that the kind of analysis she expects to do is done at
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Mud Shark posted:Yeah that's about what I figured. I'm not gonna lie, SF Boat Patrol sounds pretty dope provided you get stationed in Florida and not Alaska or something. Then again, your odds are just as high to be the dude checking IDs at the gate. You say this until you realize deployment is where the money's at.
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:So this question isn't so much about wanting to join up as it is about settling a bet, so if you guys would rather not answer I understand! Docs, lawyers, and chaplains go to special OCS in which they get taught which direction to pin the rank insignia on and which hand to salute with and that's about it. In my experience, they have a 30% success rate.
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EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:Join Sea Org and pretend you're in the military.
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Booblord Zagats posted:A lot of people who graduated last in their class The Navy dentists who have done work on me have been at least as good as the civilians and didn't push expensive unnecessary procedures, so 
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pkells posted:Counterpoint: You were smart enough to have a normal civilian college experience without any of the military bullshit getting in the way of having fun. In my defense, I didn't even know OCS existed.
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What do NG cooks do anyway? Aren't all Army chow halls staffed fully by KBR?
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Best Friends posted:Following up on this, an easy major is actually to your benefit as long as it paid off with a good GPA. A 3.5 in "government studies" from East Central Christian College of Des Moines is, to officer selection, better than a 2.0 in electrical engineering from MIT. It's a very good system and it's why we see such top notch talent in our officer ranks. I met a LTJG who was a Rhodes Scholar. She was billeted as Auxo on a DDG. I lol'd.
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ArbitraryTA posted:So I scored an 89 on my ASVAB and my line scores qualify me for pretty much anything. You might want to start a drinking habit now.
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Victor Vermis posted:I got a 93 on the ASVAB, but found out I couldn't get some stuff waived to do what I thought I wanted to do. Peacetime USMC infantry 
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DreamShipWrecked posted:I graduated with a biochemistry degree a couple years ago with a pretty bad GPA (2.8 for all, like 2.5 for just science classes). Right now I'm 23 and I've been working a couple industry jobs in the meantime, but because I'm insane I've always wanted to work in CDC/biological warfare prevention research. Sounds like chem corps is up your alley.
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Godholio posted:Flight safety experience is valuable. Logistics experience is valuable. Infantry skills... Or to give a broader rule, the closer a military job is to actual combat usefulness, the less anyone in the civilian world gives a gently caress.
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ManOfTheYear posted:I've been lurking on GiP for a long as time and i've gotta ask if there is anything good about joining the US military? I don't think anywhere else in SA there is so much usage for the words "gay" and "retarded". I saved up enough tax-free money to get a Master's degree and buy a house in cash. I have visited some countries which are actually nice, like Italy. I never could have afforded all of that if I had gone directly into teaching. I loved being at sea, working at sea. The good days were great, I loved the leadership aspect and the feeling of accomplishment when things came together. It's just that the mountain of bullshit I needed to wade through every day to get to those bright spots was just too much.
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holocaust bloopers posted:I cleared over 17,000 bucks in four months from one deployment. That was loving awesome. Yeah, there's nothing like ringing up a $300 bar tab in one night but it doesn't matter because you didn't have spend any of the previous 5 weeks' tax free pay.
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MancXVI posted:Can he really not get hired anywhere with a nuclear engineering degree? America's not building a lot of new plants.
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Godholio posted:I doubt that'll be a problem. Your money spends just as well. And plenty of people do it after realizing their first degree is worthless. No school I looked at would accept second bachelor's students.
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Godholio posted:In case anyone's wondering, this is NOT a joke. If you can't pay them, they will take it from your paychecks, and they won't do it in such a way that you have to tighten your belt a little. One of the Lts in my ABM class came from the San Jose area. They overpaid his BAH for several months while he was doing a recruiter assistance program waiting for ABM training to start. Well, when that was identified, he was living on something like $400 (down from like 2400) a month in Panama City, FL. When I was in ROTC they paid a few of us the entire year's stipend in one month. The unit said we needed to pay it back so we did but of course the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing so for the rest of the semester until we got it unfucked I got no money. I was loving starving and having to rely on my roommate to pay the bills.
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The Unholy Ghost posted:So what I'm getting from the flowchart at the start of this thread is that if you're in college you shouldn't join ROTC/the military. Can I have a detailed reasoning for this? I've been looking into ROTC because: The flowchart is about not enlisting with a degree. Enlisting means you go to the recruiter, sign on the line to be a hardcore 92A Automated Logistical Specialist, go through boot camp, and become Private Fuckstain, Latrine Cleaning Warrior. If you have or can get a college degree and want to join the military, you should go for a commission. This means going through ROTC or OCS and becoming 2LT Fuckstain, in charge of many Privates Fuckstain and making more money.
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LingcodKilla posted:Having a IEP is a Disqualifer for the Air Force? Yeah, it means you were in special ed at some point.
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