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enlisting with a degree isn't always bad because we haven't done active duty OCS boards in YEARS from a recruitment standpoint, just saying. edit: "Thing #1 is that recruiters often lie or stretch the truth because it's their job." Also not especially true.
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krispykremessuck posted:holy poo poo :smileyfaceRamboGuy:
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May 12, 2015 05:34
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Larry Parrish posted:I mean, he's technically right. Sometimes recruiters say things that are wrong because they are insanely retarded, not because they are lying. This is true.
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May 12, 2015 16:50
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Nostalgia4Ass posted:People who join the military are generally really loving stupid and only hear what it is they want to hear. A recruiter can use a little bit of misdirection and the vast majority of applicants are too dull to notice their question went unanswered because they are watching dudes in dress blues slay dragons. Yes. Thank you. I don't think I've met a recruiter who simply lies for the sake of a contract or anything deliberately evil or wrong. Personally I've been maybe too honest and its costs me some contracts but IDGAF. That being said, if you ask me to sign you up, you're qualified, and everything check outs, I don't feel the need to question you or some of your logic. Don't look a gift horse (stupid teenager) in the mouth if he thinks he has what it takes to be a RANGER.
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May 12, 2015 17:03
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Volkerball posted:
just be aware that option 40 is not always available and we dont have secret jobs that we hide from people to fill others, we have no quotas as far as MOS that we see, thats all done at way higher levels. So if your recruiter says its not there, he isn't loving with you. Its a common misconception that we deal with  .I'll put a 99 AFQT into cook if that's what he wants and its available, sometimes its just not there!
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i was just about to say the day i walked into the recruiters office, i said i wanted infantry with the ranger option or i wasn't joining, and i'm pretty sure aside from talking for a bit when we first met, he never tried to dissuade me, and everything was really straight forward. i definitely remember him saying something about my ASVAB being high enough to get into intel or something and i just looked at him and he never did it again, but i'm pretty sure that was day 1.
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Pandasmores posted:Mine kept pushing me towards undesignated airman, undesignated seaman, and cook. When I left he magically had the job I wanted so I guess ymmv. well the army doesnt have undesignated as a choice for new enlistees
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May 13, 2015 02:13
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man i was totally gonna set up a churro cart here when i get out
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May 18, 2015 02:44
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I'm going to FULL SAIL UNIVERSITY to learn how to make VIDEO GAMES. THEY SENT ME FREE GAME dEMOs
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May 19, 2015 03:02
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Stairmaster posted:The security clearance guys/meps don't care if you did Marijuana once in high-school and didn't get charged/arrested, right? why would you even tell them?
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Jun 5, 2015 22:37
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oh your recruiter will probably tell you to say "no" or "one time experimental use" but don't stress it
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Jun 6, 2015 02:18
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what you have is just the recruiter homework paper, which he copies over onto your record in ikrome, which is what we recruiters use to build packets on applicants. Its all electronic. Rather than sit there with you and wait for you to find out everyone's address, we give you a packet with which to take home with you. Just write whatever you want on there, if there are any red flags that will stop you from getting into the army, your recruiter will brief you on why it might not be such a bad idea to omit things. Well if he's worth a poo poo anyhow. Smoking pot "one time for experimental use" will not ruffle any feathers, because who hasn't? If you show trends of substance abuse, then it becomes an issue. Having patterns of anything like that can rule you out of all sorts of jobs. I think even saying you've smoked pot can rule you out of a lot of medic jobs iirc. Depends on how much of an rear end in a top hat the meps CMO wants to be. The one I deal with in Spokane is loving ruthless though, so we always err on the side of caution, because she absolutely loves crushing dreams over trivial things. edit: this stuff eventually populates your SF86. I'm looking at all this from a "getting into the military" standpoint, not "getting a security clearance" People will fill this packet out whether or not they're going to be a cook or cryptolinguist. There are no additional forms for a TOP SECRET or SECRET that an applicant will see. If its top secret generally they'll make a few calls and see whats up, and have a face to face interview with the applicant shortly after enlisting. tl;dr everyone does an sf86 when they enlist CHICKEN SHOES fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Jun 6, 2015 |
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USAF doesnt guarantee poo poo on contract. You get a wishlist which is could be like F22 WHEEL POLISHER or whatever pie in the sky thing you want PARA RESCUE - always that one for the gung ho fuckers like 4 things that you might want then of course the USAF usually has you hedge your bets for Security forces. They have 365 days to ship you with one of your jobs and guess what if its like 330 days and the only option is SF???!??
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Oct 14, 2015 21:37
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or if everything goes well and y ou get that BAD rear end PJ job thats ultra elite even though I don't think anyone gives a poo poo about them then you wash out on day 1 and end up a SF gate guard so idk STILL better than anything in the army so hth
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Oct 14, 2015 21:38
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Sorry I guess I misunderstood the multitude of USAF recruiters I worked alongside professionally on how the system works. Godholio though that makes sense.
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Oct 14, 2015 21:49
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IDK the one was really cool and sent us his garbage all the time. Well you learn something every day!
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Oct 15, 2015 02:22
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They have been jumping off that sinking ship for at least 3 years. We learned that style at the school, and maybe it works for the 10-12 man centers, but it is absolute crap when its like a 4-5 small center. The ONLY good thing was taking recruiters off of individual assignments, so you don't have the back stabbing over poo poo, and you can cover down on another guys SF86 for an applicant if he is sick or gets called to drive 100miles for a drug test. of note my company once made its mission like 24USA/12USAR one time the time was there, and when they did it was like the first time in 6 years, so our area was really loving lovely.
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Oct 15, 2015 03:28
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edit i'll move this forgot it was recruiting thread not bitch about recruiting lol
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Oct 15, 2015 03:40
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HI KIDS WHO ARE THINKING ABOUT THE ARMY. I'M A GUY WHO WAS IN THE ARMY FOR 12 YEARS AND RECRUITED YOU DUMB BASTARDS AND I'M SAYING JOIN THE USAF UNLESS YOU CANT MANAGE MUCH HIGHER THAN A 31 WELL THEN C'MON IN BUDDY
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Oct 15, 2015 04:57
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really though the only army poo poo i think they have is M1A1s and bradley turrets for LAV25s. I mean that probably hasnt been true for 20 years because its not like we literally give them our unservicable M16s, Aircraft Carriers, F18s (and harriers because that was deffo USMC only as well) and F35s and actually everything the Marines have is their own stupid waste of money bullshit
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Oct 15, 2015 05:59
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Hey you're right, though I swore it shared its turret with something. OH WELL. edit: its the same gun. I blame the pot.
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Oct 19, 2015 06:01
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2–27. Learning, psychiatric and behavioral disorders a. Attention Deficit Disorder/Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (314), or Perceptual/Learning Disorder(s) (315) does not meet the standard, unless applicant can demonstrate passing academic performance and there has been no use of medication(s) in the previous 12 months from the army. in reality it can be more complicated than that. You can either lie about it (depends on how far the USAF pushed it into MEPCOM if at all if you should attempt this. Being honest is always good but not conducive to joining RIGHT AWAY, but ADHD waivers can go through pretty readily. It will probably take a couple of trips to MEPS if they decide to do a psyche consult. I'd strongly recommend that you go back to your doctor and have him write another letter. It will be further in your benefit if the doctor is a behavioral health doctor, or whomever ADHD specialists are, than a general practitioner, family medicine type. For the love of god dont go on an ADHD trip at the MEPS morning briefing, I've seen multiple kids from multiple branches wash out in the morning when you're just filling your name out on poo poo because it was obvious they were like way too ADHD. Like honestly if you need the medication to function, find another ~dream~ than the military.
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Oct 29, 2015 01:12
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Its usually your GT or SC score. They all come into play for certain jobs though.
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Nov 4, 2015 02:01
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People lie ALL the time about criminal records. Thing is in Idaho, its all public record. So its like, "Hey, Timmy, why didn't you mention the 3 times you've been arrested" and its usually like "oh I forgot"or "i didnt think they mattered"  Had one kid who was a rapist try to join, was in the natl sex offender site. Said it was only in Wisconsin and it shouldn't matter here??? edit: you'd be surprised how many kids were arrested because their parents call the cops on them, lol.
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Nov 6, 2015 00:34
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our CMO would kick back letters if they didn't specifically say "Dear MEPS Doctor" I'm not even making that poo poo up
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Nov 6, 2015 01:15
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ADHD guy I mean its like god is trying to stop you from making a mistake though.
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Nov 6, 2015 03:18
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here is for people thinking of joining the army/military probably: watch apocalypse now. At some point it gets to a scene where Sheen is looking for a CO of some basecamp on the river, and its just flares in the air and tracers and everyone is like WHO IS IN CHARGE, I THOUGHT YOU WERE IN CHARGE and you think "whoa, vietnam is hosed up" its basically like that 24/7, but someone will correct you on your haircut during all of that.
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Nov 6, 2015 05:16
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if you don't think field sanitation carries over to the real world well then I got something for ya
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Nov 6, 2015 07:07
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Ive seen people score in the single digits before ahaha
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if you have any sort of social anxiety at all I don't the military is a place for you.
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