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I think that this thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3515797&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=147 has stolen a lot of the thunder from this one and has been way better and more in line with what I had in mind when I started it. Feel free to cross post relevant items and news that could just as well fit in here. Watching the right wing and their media outlets react to this election has been glorious, depressing, fascinating and enjoyable all at once. I hope that once the election one dies we can continue this one because I think the subject deserves constant scrutiny, daily monitoring and lots of energy. I've laready been struck several times by posters in the election thread who say "I had no idea it was like this" or who report poo poo their parents say that are word for word verbatim whatever it was Sean and Rush shat out on the radio that day. Whoever drew the parallels between Sunday sermons and what these people and their listeners do was absolutely spot on, the more I reflect on it. When I look at video of Glenn Beck at the height of his popularity, crying and feigning sincerity while he counts his money, I'm reminded of my younger days when I watched Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Baker do the same things and bilk people out of their savings in the name of salvation and patriotism. I even wondered back then how anyone could take these hustlers so seriously, but now they're mainstream and do "news" instead of Jesus. It's still the same thing though.
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Beowulfs_Ghost posted:Boortz used to be a pretty middle of the road Libertarian and equal opportunity when it came to lambasting the big parties. Another one of those guys that got started doing sports radio and moved into politics, capitalizing on bashing both sides. He's gotten especially worse since he announced his retirement. Now it just seems like he's saying poo poo just to say it (Union thugs, socialism, marxist and blah blah blah). I used to find him tolerable at one point when his thing was more about ending the drug war and and poo poo like that but when I listen to him these days I count start counting the blatant lies almost immediately.
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Speaking of Boortz, I caught a few minutes of him today and he was on air applauding massive layoffs, largely done out of spite, and calling it a good thing since the Republicans lost. Remember when liberals and democrats all hoped the economy would tank, the unemployment rate would rise and that the terrorists would win when Bush was president? Neither do I, but they painted anyone who questioned what Bush was doing back then with this brush. Neil Boortz was on air today celebrating that people were losing their jobs and actively rooting for the unemployment rate to rise so that we can all learn our lesson. gently caress him and his ilk for real. They call themselves patriots and wrap themselves in the flag while openly rooting for the country and our democratically elected president to fail and for people to suffer because it's the only we'll learn. They're totalitarians, dictators, propagandists and absolutists who don't believe in democracy at all that are only happy when the people they disagree with politically, socially and religiously suffer and/or die. Anything less than "every man for himself" is tantamount to the second coming of Hitler. All you need to know about them is that they're happier when more people are out of work because it means they get to be right. This stuff really bothers me probably more than it should. edit: Good lord. What happened to my spelling and grammar? BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Nov 15, 2012 |
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Nov 15, 2012 21:50
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Typical Pubbie posted:Not at all. It should bother other people more. Probably so. So what can be done about it? Left wing alternatives are mostly horrible and get boring really quick. There are a few distinct camps of folks who listen to this right wing stuff. The true believers, who run to it for information and who can't form an opinion of their own practically on anything until they are told what to think about it. Then there's the people like most of us in this thread who just tune in for the insanity, the comedic value of it all and to generally keep tabs on it and the occasional listener who generally can't be bothered with such things that tunes in once a year and is shocked at what's being said and that so many people believe it. I bet FOX News had record ratings on election night, but how much of that was from people who voted Obama and just wanted to watch the reaction and the spin, how much was from the True Believers and how much was from people who just don't know the difference? I'd bet at least a quarter of FOX/Rush/Levin ratings are from people who either just want to gawk at it.
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Nov 15, 2012 23:48
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I'm dragging this from the election thread, but Hannity's back to Swifboating John Kerry again. This. This right here is what angers me so much about these people. http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/11/15/hannity-hosts-dishonest-swift-boat-veterans-fou/191419
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Nov 17, 2012 20:36
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I meant to mention this the other day. I tune into Rush for a few minutes a week just to...well...just to tune I guess. As of today, he's still going with the Obama Claus meme but that's not what I came here to post. Thursday, I think it was, when Skyfall came out, I caught about 5 minutes of him going on about how Bond villains always used to be secret cabals and world domination types like SPECTRE and whatever but he was saying how, as much as he "loves Bond movies and has them all on Blu-ray", that James Bond isn't what he used to be because now all of the villains are rich, corporate overlords trying to steal everyone's money, which I guess is indicative of...I dunno...something. Probably Hollywood not wanting to offend terrorist organizations or something and instead going after corporate barons. I didn't listen long enough to get to the punchline, but what's he on about anyway? Like Goldfinger, Dr. No, Francisco Scaramanga or Blofeld ever had an interest in global finance? Rush can find a liberal conspiracy anywhere. Also, if Hollywood is run by liberal Jews, as they espouse, why would they worry about offending Muslim terrorists anyway? As an aside, can anyone point me to a dedicated Benghazi thread? I haven't seen one. Or even a link with a coherent narrative of what we know so far? I'm taking on a lot of FOX listening right wing dopes on some other boards and could use some help rebutting a lot of foolish talking points. Basically, they think Obama smoked cigarettes and shot hoops while watching 4 Americans die while giving "stand down" orders because...um...he's incompetent and doesn't care about them. For some reason.
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Nov 19, 2012 22:49
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Xarthor posted:
How odd. You sure that was Hannity? that doesn't sound like him at all. What a strange diatribe for him to go off on. edit: A Winner is Jew posted:he's at worst a racist gently caress and at best a classist shill. Why can't he be both? He's a greasy, oily, shameless, smug used car salesman that will do anything for money. The more I listen to these types of shows, the more I'm convinced that Hannity is probably the worst of the lot. Rush is caricature - a walking cartoon character at this point - that only the hardest of the hardcore believers take seriously at all and who most people tune into just for the outrageousness of it all, but Sean has a way with his demeanor, his arrogant, punchable face and a talent for delivering unbelievable bullshit in a way that's believable and marginally credible to the gullible and naive horde he preaches to every day. What I mean is gently caress Sean Hannity and I wish he would go away. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Nov 20, 2012 |
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Nov 20, 2012 19:03
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800peepee51doodoo posted:Right wingers and movies You just reminded me that a few years ago I was visiting my FOX News watching/Drudge reading/am radio listening in laws for Christmas and a few of us got the idea to go see Avatar late one night. A weird look washed over my in laws' faces when the idea was suggested. I didn't know why at the time but later I learned that this, I guess, is one of those movies on conservative's poo poo list for one reason or another. Something about a left wing environmental agenda. I remember it struck me as really odd at the time; the reaction I got. Like suggesting to a group of atheists or Jews at 11pm on Christmas Eve that we should all go to midnight mass. It wasn't until months later, after I'd finally seen the film and had heard the talking points about it why It Was Bad that it suddenly hit me why I may as well have taken a poo poo on the table instead of suggesting that movie. One more anecdotal example about how this poo poo really penetrates people's thinking. 800peepee51doodoo posted:Oh I know why he does it. It's just mind blowing that people go along with it, even with poo poo that they see with their very own eyes. They don't trust their own eyes until Rush tells them what to see. It wasn't until 48 hours later after Romney's completely indefensible "47% video" surfaced that I began to hear parroted defenses about why he was really right. I can only surmise that Limbaugh listeners watch that video, instinctively and correctly view it as horrible and then turn to Hannity and Limbaugh to learn why they shouldn't be repulsed by it. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Nov 20, 2012 |
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Nov 20, 2012 21:28
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Frostwerks posted:What was the reason anyway? I've heard a bunch of criticism launched at that film, some with more cogency than others and I'm willing to bet the reason given was firmly loving nutty. I never asked them the reason or got into it with them and, at the time, couldn't understand the resistance to seeing it. I just remember feeling like I'd suggested we all vomit in a beer pitcher together and suggesting we have a contest to see who could chug the most. Even later, when they visited in the spring and it was on OnDemand, they didn't want to watch it. I know it's on the conservative poo poo list for some reason, some of them probably along the lines of what Axetrain cited. I vaguely remember FOX and conservatives having some sort of problem with it when it came out. ... Ah, yes. Here it is. I'll spare everyone the entire article and the bravest amongst us can click on it and see what I mean. FOX News posted:A white man “going native.” Where have we seen that before? It’s the story of “Dances With Wolves,” for openers, along with a little bit of the old cartoon series, “Captain Planet.” And did I mention there’s a maniacal military officer as the heavy? Needless to say, this character, Colonel Quaritch, gets all the best lines in the film, and indeed Quaritch, played by Stephen Lang, is so over-the-top that he is destined to develop his own cult following, as did Lee Ermey, two decades ago, for his poetically profane performance as Gunnery Sergeant Hartman in the 1987 film, “Full Metal Jacket.” http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/12/18/james-pinkerton-avatar-review/ So FOX News and conservatives can see a liberal left wing agenda in anything and spin a persecution complex out of it, from math, science and reading all the way up to James Bond and James Cameron and whether or not WalMart greeters say "Happy Holidays" or "Merry Christmas". My guess would be that my in laws heard/read these things about Avatar (which was loving awesome by the way), decided ahead of time they didn't like its message and wouldn't watch it. Yes, they are hosed in the head. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Nov 21, 2012 |
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Nov 21, 2012 00:33
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Myrdhale posted:I get the strongest impression that so many conservatives must have grown up in really lovely situations to have such a massive hoarding FYGM mentality over everything. They look around at the plenty and wealth of the modern world and think 'There's barely enough to go around! Why should I share!' I think also that a lot of them don't feel the happiness and satisfaction that they think they should feel derive from all the things the acquire and consume, leading to that frustrating sense that "something is missing/wrong" but since they should feel content but don't, it must be because of someone or something else other then themselves and their skewed priorities. Spacedad posted:Conservatives actually ARE funny - just not intentionally. They are eternally Elmer Fudds to the Bugs Bunnys of the world. I'm thinking more Yosemite Sam. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Nov 22, 2012 |
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Nov 22, 2012 16:35
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Nimmy posted:Iran-Contra is the absolute worst thing for me about conservatives. They don't stick with the party line of "well Reagan didn't know", they leap all the way to either "NOTHING HAPPENED" or "so what?" But Benghazi on the other hand is the hugest scandal ever.
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Nov 23, 2012 14:30
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Myrdhale posted:My god. It's happening. This. I hope so. It drives me nuts when people compare what Maddow does as the left wing equivalent of what Hannity or O'Reilly do. There's no comparison. So far as I've ever seen, Rachael Maddow has never been exposed as a blatant liar and usually even when she's coming at you from a left angle, her facts are straight and tight. She doesn't gently caress around. I've never really seen her go after a Republican boogeyman/strawman just for the sake of it, but maybe she has. All too often it seems like it's more just "Republicans say crazy and horrible poo poo" then MSNBC reports it and somehow it's a typical liberal media hit piece filled with bias. I hate this whole "the left wing does the same thing" bullshit. Even Michael Moore through his worst slight of hand film making never made anything like "Dreams of My Real Father" or whatever that "2016 Obama's America" movie was. Ed Shultz and Keith Obermann gradually became the leftist alternatives to Rush, etc., and while that may be a fair argument to make, what they wound up doing was still in response to the right wingers making GBS threads up the airwaves for 15 years with blatant falsehoods, accusations of facts being driven by left leaning bias and an overall persecution complex that just will never ever quit no matter how ground is ceded to their horrible opinions. These people are totalitarians. They were just as miserable and angry at everything from 2000-2008, even when they were getting their way, as they are now.
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Nov 23, 2012 23:46
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lil mortimer posted:I just can't put Ed Schultz or Lawrence O'Donnell on the same level as those people. They aren't full of hatred and don't lie like Hannity. Schultz was actually pretty angry after the first debate. He couldn't help it. You'll never, ever see that on Fox. True. I just meant he's unlistenable in the same way that the right wing types are (overly sensationalistic and LOUD!!!) and that he's occasionally just as dubious with his facts. I liked him for a while but got burned a few times on other boards regurgitating the stuff I heard him say only to find out he was being hyperbolic and just a tad selective with the things he was reporting. You're right. There really is no comparison but if one is to be made it would be centered more around Shcultz and Obermann than Maddow or someone like Bill Press.
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Nov 24, 2012 00:45
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I was X-mas shopping in a Barnes & Noble yesterday and they had entire walls of what I can only assume is a new Oliver North book. Is this guy still A Thing or did he just have a book signing there or something because god drat. Even though I live in a pretty conservative area, I was still a little shocked at the sheer amount of books I saw by right wing authors when I was browsing the politics section. Some of the titles were loving hilarious.
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Nov 27, 2012 17:49
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Install Gentoo posted:Perhaps it implies something about the general demographic of people who still use brick and mortar bookstores, and specifically the chain variety, to buy paper books instead of getting paper books from online stores or ebooks. I mean, 20% of Barnes & Noble stores have closed since their peak in 2007 just when ereaders started to take off, and of course Borders and some other chains have shut down entirely. Doctor Butts posted:Yea, seeing book titles like "Liberals should be executed" is pretty disheartening. It's even worse when you know that people are essentially being told this in all of the news they watch as well. I'm not sure that demographics about "who uses brick and mortar bookstores" has too much to do with it, but you guys might be right about the rest of it. I imagine that in the south, for instance, you'll see a lot more NASCAR books and poo poo. I still enjoy the physicality of an actual book more than an e-book and I enjoy browsing too, but I realize I'm part of a dying breed. I just couldn't believe that that many people were still interested in anything ollie North might still have to say. It looked like the Spinal Tap 'Smell the Glove' record release. Here it is: http://www.newsmax.com/US/oliver-north-heroes-proved/2012/11/20/id/464841 How is this guy a hero again?
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Nov 27, 2012 19:32
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Republicans posted:Michael Medved is talking mess about Bob Dylan's christmas album. What did he say?
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Nov 28, 2012 01:32
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Zwabu posted:Let's see what we've got for Obama Administration scandals so far. Birth Certificate, Larry Sinclair/gay sex, college transcripts, Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, bowing to the Saudis, ACORN, Bin Laden's burial at sea (cover up/he's still alive), voter fraud, free phones, assassinating Andrew Breitbart, Sharia law, false flag shooting massacres, being sworn in under the Quran, falsifying his SS#, FEMA camps...
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Nov 29, 2012 03:32
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Unzip and Attack posted:Also, remember that Obama said the Police Department who arrested the man "acted stupidly" in handling the whole incident which meant that Obama said all police officers are stupid and he hates America. I've had this unironically posited to me on more than one occasion. Monkey Fracas posted:My local AM radio parrot was going on about how "The top 1% pay 40% of the taxes overall and 60% of Federal Income Taxes!!!!" this morning. This is a constant meme they push, but they never point out that it's because that those people make 90-95% of the loving money. I tried to illustrate this once to a co-worker by drawing a pie, starting with cutting 90% out of it and then showing him the leftover slice that the rest of us get. I was like, "look at this piece of pie. This is what they have us arguing over." It wouldn't matter if you taxed that little tiny piece at 99%. Monkey Fracas posted:Also, apparently raising the top tax rate causes middle class people to shoulder a larger % of the tax burden? I think her reasoning for this was that if you try to charge rich people more in taxes, they'll ramp up their tax evasion schemes to the point where they'll somehow be paying less in taxes than before. Their argument is that if you tax the "job creators" and such that the costs will just be passed onto us anyway because they'll just raise prices to offset their tax increases and penalties - and they may be right - but this flies in the face of their arguments about how no one will want to make $250,001 because they don't understand progressive taxation. It also ignores the fact if people have more money in their pockets, they tend to spend on things that benefit the people that are already rich in the first place so they usually get it all back anyway in addition to having a healthier society and economy and a happier workforce.
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Nov 29, 2012 22:05
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There was a thread on here for a while about marginal tax rates because it kept inevitably coming up in every political thread and a disturbingly small percentage of people seemed to understand how it works. I'll give conservatives this much: our tax code is definitely way too complicated and dense. The fact that so few people, even reasonably successful and presumably intelligent ones, don't understand how it works and need to hire "experts" to sort it all out once a year is testament to this fact. Any attempt to simplify it in any way that's fair would be a great idea for either political party, but that's hard to do when one side of the idea is screaming from the rooftops that half the country is full of freeloaders who pay nothing and voted for Santa Claus. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Nov 29, 2012 |
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Nov 29, 2012 23:29
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BlueBlazer posted:Is there a good easy to understand graphic that explains how marginal tax rates so I can print 1000 posters of to post around the town... http://www.gov.state.md.us/images/070919pie.gif Show them how taxing the small slice makes no difference at all - raising it or lowering it - and that the only thing to tax is the big giant part. The green is where all the money is, the red is what you and all of you friends and peers make combined and the black are the people too poor to live. edit: fixed image leaching into a link
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Nov 30, 2012 01:08
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Pope Guilty posted:Dunno about anybody else, but I file a 1040-EZ and I just compare my income to the chart. Filling out a 1040 won't teach you about marginal utility. Exactly this. Not to get into a taxchat derail too much but this is also the reason that most people (1040EZ, 9-5 types anyway) think their taxes went up. They got a smaller refund. This is because part of the stimulus tax cuts gave people more take home pay ever week so they would up having less taken out and, hence, got less back. But most people just go "poo poo! Fuckin' Obama! I got back $1500 last year and this year it was only $1200!" He thinks his taxes went up when all that happened was he got the other $300 or so spread over multiple paychecks. edit: ErIog posted:The best part about the marginal tax rate thing is that it very cleanly debunks any and all right wing superstitions about rich people actually knowing anything about money. I don't know how any of these people could possibly run their businesses efficiently without knowing how marginal tax rates work. They just leave the entire thing up to their accountants, and then kvetch about how unfair it all is on the golf course. In fairness, if you run a business, taxes can get unfairly complicated. I freelance on the side a bit and just the little bit I do complicates things more than it should. Can we go back to talking about crazy right wing people again though? I'm sorry I started this derail. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Nov 30, 2012 |
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Nov 30, 2012 20:36
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So from what little I've heard from Rush the last few days, apparently Obama's master plan now is to intentionally push the U.S. over the so called "fiscal cliff" so that he can blame it on Republicans and when we go into a recession again he can then...um...do some socialist stuff and be King of America for life and...things, I guess. I don't know. Yeah, Rush. Pretty sure Obama wants nothing more than to crash the entire economy again. He'd have so much to gain from that. Have I posted that I don't like Rush Limbaugh in this thread yet? Mitchicon posted:I can't imagine what would have happened had Petraeus run and then the scandal broke. FOX would have blamed Obama somehow. "Liberal Media hit piece". "What about Bill Clinton, Elliot Spitzer and Mike Weiner (double standard)"? BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Dec 5, 2012 |
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Dec 5, 2012 20:20
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Ballz posted:The first part isn't all that far-fetched -- many have suggested to just let the tax cuts expire, because aside from the payroll tax (which I don't believe anyone planned on extending anyways), Americans wouldn't feel the effects right away. When a new Congress convenes in January, they can then go and add new tax breaks to those making under $250K and have it apply retro-actively to the first of the year. Why are they calling it "The Fiscal Cliff" then and saying that allowing all of those things will result in exactly what you said wouldn't (spiraling the U.S. into a recession)? It's not just the right predicting a double dip recession if something isn't done. Or is the whole thing just hyperbolic horseshit, designed to generate headlines? The more I look at what will happen if a new budget isn't passed, the more I don't think it'll be all that horrible, but then again my comprehension and grasp of global economics is pretty tenuous. Walter posted:Yes, Rush, we should cap unemployment at 13 weeks and food stamps at 2 months and then cut people off. No doubt, dude. This poo poo has been loving killing me. All the right wing outlets I listen to are running around calling Obama the "food stamp president" and crying about all the people receiving government assistance. Well, no poo poo Rush. That sort of tends to happen when Wall Street bookies and corporate barons gamble away everyone's retirement investments and plunge the whole loving country into a huge shitstorm. "People are poor! Why do so many of them need help?" And the poo poo that really gets me is that so many of these media outlets continue to sell the idea that the country is broke because the poor people took all the money, when it was really the rich power brokers and their lawmakers who stole it all and mismanaged everything. edit: someone should look into how long Rush received his unemployment benefits. I can't seem to find it, but I remember reading in one of Franken's books that Limbaugh was on the dole more than once. Stern wrote about it too. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Dec 6, 2012 |
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Unzip and Attack posted:At any rate, it's been really fun watching Boehner get pummeled by the Right for dropping so many Teabaggers from Committee positions. It's like he's realized, far too late of course, that the country actually doesn't like his Party that much. Hannity was going on about this on his radio show today. He had someone on that I gather had been bounced from some committee or another and the dude he was interviewing was bending over backwards trying to be reasonable and pragmatic while Sean poked and prodded him over and over again to whip him back into the Tea Party "true conservative" line. I can't stomach Hannity for longer than 2 minutes usually so I didn't get the entire gist of it but from what I managed to listen to it was basically Sean horsewhipping the dude as he actually tried to make the case that Republicans may want to entertain the idea of being slightly more pragmatic and reasonable moving forward and not be total dicks about everything all the time. The guy he was interviewing didn't really seem that mad about being bounced by Boehner and sounded like he understood why they can't be so hardline about everything, but Sean - being the Great American that he is - was having none of it. It was rather funny in that circular firing squad sort of way, but even at that, I can only stand listening to Hannity for about as long as it takes me to take a poo poo. I really try to monitor and absorb some of this stuff; Boortz, Rush, Hannity, Andy Dean, etc. but it just sends me into a seething rage when I realize the lies they're spewing and, more importantly, how many people take it as absolute gospel. I'd love to get on the radio with some of these people and debate them. Or invite them into this thread.
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SedanChair posted:Olbermann didn't pioneer poo poo, nor was he courageous. The fact that he could get on TV and bloviate pointlessly, with as little rigor as Michael Savage, was a sign that people were utterly sick of Bush and his wars. He was catering to a new market, purely as entertainment. Not a single person was enlightened by him. Seconding what Zwabu posted. He was courageous. He went after the war(s) well before it became obvious that it was right, way before it was popular or even acceptable to do so and did not "bloviate pointlessly". He was right, as much of an rear end in a top hat as he was about it. Same with Michael Moore, the Dixie Chicks, Sean Penn, Bill Maher and whoever else you want to throw out there as a demonstration of false equivalency to human turds and commercial opportunists like Michael Savage. Around 2002-2003, the only people I could watch/listen to that were making an ounce of sense in the media were Olbermann, Moore, Buzzflash and a few radio hosts on Air America Radio that NO ONE was listening to. I think you're forgetting the flag sucking and xenophobic vitriol that went on prior to everyone eventually realizing in retrospect that invading Iraq was a stupid and stupid idea. Something like 85 - 90% of the country was all for it at the time and anyone who disagreed with the idea back then was a terror loving terrorist who hated the troops. No one dared challenge the Patriot Act, warrantless wiretaps, indefinite detention, profiling, etc. and now you have right wing radio show callers screaming and bitching constantly, whining about the TSA and crying 'foul' about government spying and overreach. Not to mention the complaining about the cost of it all and that their taxes might go up or something. It did take courage to speak out back then and everyone seems to have now forgotten that the people that did so were right, no matter how much of an rear end in a top hat they may have been about it. Sorry for the rant/double post.
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Sydney Bottocks posted:Holy poo poo, that was great. Rush sounded like the epitome of That really was fantastic. The caller had one simple question, "why do conservatives worship Reagan" and Rush spent 5 minutes explaining it without ever coming close to offering an answer. You could tell Rush didn't even really know what the Greenspan Commission was or what it did. I'd like to see a few more of these types of recordings in this thread if anyone can find some.
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SedanChair posted:What the gently caress is Bill Maher doing in that sentence. beatlegs posted:She seems to see herself as a political humorist with a strong point of view ... I'd call that an accurate description of Bill Maher, whether you like him or not. Would it have have bothered you less if beatlegs listed Lewis Black?
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Spacedad posted:Something to think about - scamming conservatives out of their money goes hand in hand with almost every major conservative figure. Dick Morris's superpac turned out to be an emailing scam that funneled money into his own pocket. Freedomworks bilks conservatives for lots of money. Worldnetdaily feeds subscriber info to organized scams designed to appeal to paranoid conservatives. It seems as though the infrastructure of the conservative movement in the US has been the "illusion" of an infrastructure - the reality is that their power players all have a skeleton of a political product and sell it as snake oil. Even Karl Rove has been exposed as basically a scammer and a fraud. It seems like the reality of how hollow the whole thing is is starting to come apart at the seams. I think it's that the pursuit of money is an ends (or is it a means?) unto itself in their minds. People with money, or who are pursuing money, are right and that's the American Way and what life is all about. Everyone with money gets to talk poo poo, do stuff and make laws (except actors and most musicians. Those people should shut the gently caress up). Everyone else should just shut up and work harder until they have money. What you posted reminds me of the televangelist comparison that someone made very early on in this thread. I'm not so sure it's "coming apart at the seams" as much as you think though. Jim Baker, Jimmy Swaggart and whoever that dude was who told his viewers to send him money or God was going to kill him didn't end spell the end of the mega-church. edit: It's been a while, so I went to visit FOX's front page today.  On one page we have "gently caress Teachers/Unions", "Obama is going to tax us", "He has 'swagger' now (he's arrogant)", "Heroes are being tortured", "Cyber terrorists are coming", "The trade deficit is increasing" and an attack on pro-lifers and prayer. This website is like this every single day and sooooo many people get their news from just this one spot. I'm surprised there was no Benghazi headline and a little surprised that they listed the stock market being up. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Dec 11, 2012 |
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Rush was ragging today on the 12-12-12 Sandy benefit concert, presumably because all the money goes directly to George Clooney so he can give it to Obama or something. It was pretty bad; what little I heard of it. Also, I guess Boortz is officially gone now and has been replaced by Herman Cain. The 15 minutes or so I heard of it was actually worse than I expected, primarily because there's never been a more obvious example of a shameless opportunist cashing in on the conservative media bandwagon. Except Sarah Pailn. And Newt Gingrich. And Dick Morris...and who am I kidding? About 20 other people but this seemed worse somehow. Honestly, maybe it bothered me more because Herman is black and the whole show seemed like so much shucking and jiving, complete with (speaking of Tarantino) music that was straight out Shaft! and Superfly. The whole thing reeks of the Michale Steele/Cloin Powell/Condi Rice phenomenon where they prop someone of minority status up there to parrot Republican talking points in order to discredit accusations of racism. I'm actually interested to see where Herman takes this show, for some morbid reason. He's the only minority I can think of running a conservative AM talk show and Boortz was just totally off the rails at the end there - to the point of self parody.
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Dec 14, 2012 00:06
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Sick_Boy posted:Sorry to interrupt the Tarantino talk, but someone has exciting news for you! Sounds credible. How far away are we from having the GOP text their votes like an episode of a biker build-off? That bold part cracks me up. "Stuff that just isn't done". You know, stuff like completely false, tinfoil hat, demonstrably untrue conspiratorial bullshit that the "mainstream media" won't report (because it's bullshit). "Here to lend credibility to this nonsense is one of those guys from Hollywood I always say should shut the gently caress up."
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Dec 14, 2012 00:14
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Sick_Boy posted:
Good Lord, man. It's not hard to find. Just go to Media Matters or Newshounds. Here's one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNg-3cFZS6E There's a collection of 10 but they're all separate. Links for the other ones show up in the sidebar, along with 100 others that will drive you as insane as you feel like you need to get.
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Dec 14, 2012 02:25
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Best Friends posted:Even if you're purely a huckster, I'm not sure you could say things like that hours and hours a day with emotion and not start to believe it on some level. If Daniel Day Lewis stayed in character for 20 years, he'd probably think he was Lincoln. Alex Jones is definitely believing he's Alex Jones too. First time I heard Alex Jones, it was so over the top I thought it was a parody; with fake callers and "experts" and everything, following a script. It thought someone was giving talk radio the Christopher Guest treatment. Can we move the Tarantino stuff to the Django Unchained thread? It's been going on for like 2 pages now.
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Dec 14, 2012 17:30
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redshirt posted:I'd like to throw out the fact that is not just the "Right Wing Media" which is poisoning this country with lies and propaganda, but the regular media as well. Either they're owned by Newscorp, or they are responding in fear to Fox News. Witness the decline of CNN into a "Fox-Lite". Witness the guest list of every Sunday show every Sunday. Consider the Opinion page of the Washington Post. On and on. Except it sounds what you're saying is that the "regular media" has become more right wing in response to FOX domination of the ratings. I agree with your conclusion and get what you're saying, but really it's just one more example of how pervasive and successful the right wing "anti liberal/unbaised" approach has been for them in framing the narrative and moving the Overton Window. The "regular media" has shifted right, but that doesn't stop FOX, Rush and all the others from claiming they're just as liberally biased as they've always been. The extreme right is simply totalitarian.
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Dec 14, 2012 19:11
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On All in the Family one time, Archie Bunker delivered an editorial advocating for mandatory gun possession on all passenger flights. Guns would be handed out at boarding and collected at deboarding. It was played up for great laughs as the idiotic premise it is and now conservative pundits are unironicaly suggesting this very thing.
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Dec 16, 2012 15:20
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Twisted Perspective posted:While I confess I don't know much about statistics the end result is exactly that, according to the article: Is there enough information here to warrant a new thread on the subject? Because this is fascinating.
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Dec 17, 2012 21:08
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A Intimate Rimjobs posted:The only way this makes any sense is if the Detroit teachers ran away from a school shooting, leaving children to fend for themselves, in order to attend a political rally. I thought the same thing. Let's see. If the teachers are on strike there are no classes that day, therefore no classroom shootings so...yeah. You're right. I just.. drat. There's so much I want to write about this stupid thing but there's no real jumping off point. The entire equivalency is broken so those no way to build a thesis. Or a first sentence. Leofish posted:I want to know the timeline of how this image came to be. When was Publisher released? Start there. Leofish posted:I want to remove the brain of the person who thought this was a good idea and study it for the rest of time. It would take the rest of time just to find the brain.
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Dec 18, 2012 00:47
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Joementum posted:Fox News interviews Santa, asks him if there's a War on Christmas. Oh for crying the gently caress out loud. "The News", ladies and gentlemen.
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Dec 20, 2012 23:37
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Spacedad posted:I think my personal favorite right wing moment of 2012 was this: http://www.queerty.com/right-wing-analyst-says-nate-silver-is-too-much-of-a-sissy-to-crunch-poll-data-20121031/ Why you trying to interpret those numbers and read those words? You a fag or somethin?
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Speaking of Hannity, I caught about 30 seconds of his radio show today and I'm not sure if it was a caller or a guest he had on, but the guy was railing against "Right to Work" laws and explaining how they drive everyone's wages down, not just union workers'. Sean went on about lower taxes, fewer regulations, etc. Then the caller/guest brought up "The Tea Party" and pointed out that it was a violent rebellion when Hannity cut him off and mistakenly assumed the guy was talking about the 2010 thing and not the original uprising that the caller was referencing. He said "you're confusing it with Occupy Wall Street!" Then he plugged his TV show where 'so and so' will debate a "union thug". It was a tremendous amount of bullshit to cram into a half a minute. I can only imagine what the rest of the show was like.
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