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Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


The most aggravating the about fox news is that they like to complain about the mainstream media on one had while gloating about their high ratings on the other. You can't have both, no matter what you tell yourself at night.

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Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


Sydney Bottocks posted:

I'd like to think it was purely because the right-wing finally just went completely insane after a black man got elected to the highest office in the land...but then I remember "Whitewatergate" and Vince Foster and the whole Clinton blowjob impeachment thing, and I realize they've pretty much always been this crazy. They're just a lot more brazen about it this time around.

I think they started going off their rocker about the time they started using the southern strategy.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


Goatman Sacks posted:

Pretty sure that's Dana

:psyduck: I guess that's another explanation why Ann Coulter seems so tame nowadays.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


All Of The Dicks posted:

What the hell kind of name is S.E. Cupp? I can't see it without thinking "sippy cup"

I was kinda wondering this too. Is her name really hard to pronounce or does it sound too foreign for a conservative commentator? Nope! Her actual name is Sarah Elizabeth Cupp.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


Waffles Inc. posted:

I was only 12 and was swept up in all of the hysterics, but I can attest that some otherwise really pacifistic and awesome people were (in hindsight) hideously zealous about "KILL 'EM ALL"

It was hugely prevalent, but while a lot of us got over it and are really embarrassed, our society still hasn't really "recovered", I don't think.

I was 8 and I don't think my reaction was more complex than "whoooo I get the day off school whoooo". Perhaps I should have been more concerned at the time since both of my parents worked in DC at the time but whatever.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011



Andy Levy is great if only for this

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


Volkerball posted:

Whoa, definitely not trying to take the assumption that far. And culture war is a dumb term, but I do think MSNBC's coverage is very polarizing. And I wasn't claiming that she's the next Lee Atwater by any stretch of the imagination, but that Harry Reid story was very Atwater-esque. Maddow's coverage wasn't as bad as some, even though hers started with Harry Reid's claim and ended with "What IS Romney hiding?" At least she put forth some legitimate effort to make Reid's claim appear as completely unsupported hearsay.

If you think Maddow is polarizing I wonder what you think of Keith Olbermann. I like him, but I'll admit a lot of his shows descended into yelling at various conservatives.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


Maddow also likely wouldn't be where she is now if it wasn't for Olbermann. Dude aggressively lobbied for the network to pick her up.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


Sydney Bottocks posted:

For that matter, one of Fox News' own staff has called them out on it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32porQUkwoU

Eric Bolling was that guy who accused The Muppets of a liberal agenda, right? What a nutter.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


Ballz posted:

Sandra Fluke is among the people nominated to be Time's Person of the Year and predictably, the far right is losing its goddamn mind over it.

Man I hope she wins. The contraception debate should have been settled years ago.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


Warchicken posted:

Am...am I Simba? :aaa:

:mufasa:: Yes my son.


BiggerBoat posted:

Birth Certificate, Larry Sinclair/gay sex, college transcripts, Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, bowing to the Saudis, ACORN, Bin Laden's burial at sea (cover up/he's still alive), voter fraud, free phones, assassinating Andrew Breitbart, Sharia law, false flag shooting massacres, being sworn in under the Quran, falsifying his SS#, FEMA camps...

And any sort of legitimate scandal just kinda looks the same as all the fake ones. They're attempts to delegitimize obama actually strengthens him, in a way.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


beatlegs posted:

Conservatives operate within a self-created bubble where denial is their only means of coping in the face of an actual reality that doesn't mesh with their own. This is why they're losing elections. They're so caught up in their own ideological wants that they're blind to the wants of their constituents. And by refusing to confront them with their own deluded bullshit, the mainstream press keeps the dysfunction alive with their "fair and balanced" obsession which dictates that both sides are, by default, equally extreme/hypocritical/dishonest, which in turn validates the Republicans' worldview and keeps the sick cycle alive.

Rupert Murdock is now positioning to buy out the LA Times and Chicago Tribune, and the FCC is going to let him:

http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/13051-obamas-fcc-set-to-give-rupert-murdoch-a-media-monopoly

Nice, huh?
I don't know why the government doesn't smash apart the Murdoch empire like they did with AT&T.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


Joementum posted:

He started a tumblr after he got fired, but gave up on that too. He just posts sunset photos to Twitter these days.

and blogs about baseball

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


Okay CBS isn't exactly right wing but I bet fox news will bring this up. Those goshdarn rappers all hate america! :bahgawd:

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


ErIog posted:

The Fountainhead may be one of the funniest books I've ever read. Ayn Rand is like the M. Night Shyamalan of libertarian fiction. I refuse to believe The Happening was not meant to be comedic, and similarly Ayn Rand's work comes across quite often as more comedic than philosophical. Everything she has written reads like brilliant satire because it is so naive and sophomoric. The fact that she's adored as this great intellect constantly confounds me.

Why the gently caress did she choose to display her philosophy in the form of terribly-written novels? It seems like she really intended to write these awesome novels, but then couldn't stop herself from injecting her awful world view. Then everyone coming later has to be like, "ignore all the terrible writing, her philosophy is what you're there for."

I was recommended the exact opposite by my mother. I probably got about 25 pages before I got bored? That was a really weird gift from her considering that she's a stone's throw away from being a socialist.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


SedanChair posted:

Bill Maher: unbearably smug down-punching twat with a changeable set of views (nobody seems to remember him browbeating Muslims on his show after 9/11)

No he still does that. People just don't pay attention I guess.


colonelslime posted:

Even with Japan, the ties the US kept with it weren't small. The US didn't have direct control, but its shadow was certainly looming over Japan for decades afterwards. The US also invested a poo poo-ton of resources into rebuilding Japan to act as a counter-balance to Soviet power, and as as staging ground for its operations in Asia and the Pacific. There really hasn't been a comparable state-building exercise to what happened in post-WWII Japan and West Germany.

Wasn't it because of the US that one party had a stranglehold on the government for 50-odd years?

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


Reposting from DND pictures

Rand alPaul posted:

:siren::ussr:Glorious workers wage class warfare against Fox News contributor's face :ussr::siren:


http://youtu.be/u_F3oev06i0
Now he's challenged the guy who whacked him to a MMA fight.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


He's one of a handful of actors who portrayed him though. So Ice Cream didn't damage your childhood that much, I hope.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


Protesting is only okay if you do it by eating a chicken sandwich from Chick-fil-a, clearly.

Myrdhale posted:

Are those the next.... 3 dozen or so countries the next directly in proportional ownership?

Because if so, I am incredibly pleased that my nation has such a small proportion it :canada: did not make the list :canada:.
Canada is around the same as france, just looks like whoever made it didn't have quite enough room. I think this drew from the same statistics

Lord Lambeth fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Dec 18, 2012

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


The notion that people died because there wasn't a man to stop the crazy man with the boomstick is hosed up on so many levels.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


Okay remember this right wing meme

Well she isn't a teacher

quote:

There is a picture going around the Internet that I have seen about a dozen times today that claims that Israeli teachers are packing heat. Well, are they? The answer is “NO.” There may be some exceptions in dangerous areas like the West Bank (where five percent of Israelis live), but in general, Israeli teachers are not walking around like it’s the Wild Wild West, strapped with a six shooter. No, our teachers are not focused on shooting, but educating. That doesn’t mean, however, that we don’t protect young students.

In the picture, the students are on an outing. While it appears that the teacher is holding a rifle, I have never seen such a thing in ten years of living here. Rest assured however, they are under armed protection. In most cases it is an armed guard or a soldier that will accompany a class, not the teacher. And my guess is that the woman with the gun is a security guard, not a teacher.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


Sir Tonk posted:

Nope, those are American Soldiers and deserve our respect. And CoD could never lead to a civilian massacre, as you are fighting foreigners.

Well there was that one mission in the airport

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


the2ndgenesis posted:

I don't think there's anything wrong with referring to Social Security non-pejoratively as an "entitlement" in the case of people who've literally been paying into it for the duration of their working lives.

They should only refer to social programs as entitlements if they also do it to tax cuts, loopholes, and whatever else the super rich have lobbied for.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


I don't think presidents ever really take time off, they're always on call. But that looks pretty bad.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


Boondock Saint posted:

I get so sick of that argument too. "Well ok, but everyone but the JEWS. But if they had guns...". John Stewart summed it up well when he showed how the Polish, French and Soviets had guns, but it didn't stop the Germans from invading them and committing genocide against their populations either. gently caress, even the Jews who did fight back unfortunately didn't really do much aside from make a symbolic last stand. I wish these people realized guns are not the be all/end all solutions to problems throughout history that they pretend they are.

I guess they watched Inglorious Basterds one too many times.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


SilentD posted:

When Obama won none of them threated to move but when a Republican does you get all sorts of talk about leaving the nation to get away from Christians or moving to Canada. The entire dynamic is turned on it's head.

It was really funny hearing conservatives making fun of liberals by saying "welp I'm moving to canada now" when obamacare was ruled constitutional. Try finding another first world country that doesn't have some sort of universal health care system then get back to me on that.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


BiggerBoat posted:

I find this happens most often when I'm discussing pro sports with conservatives. They seem to really resent the large amounts of money the players make and really get pissed off when they hold out or re-negotiate a contract. When I point out that the players should get all they can, that the free market is basically determining their salaries and that the people who pay them are 100 times richer than the players are, they sort of have like a...like a glitch or something. A moment where they're trying to add it all up but all they're getting is the little MAC rainbow pinwheel for a moment.

They'll say stuff like "no way those players should be making that money. They're not They're not worth it. There should be a limit". There is. It's called a salary cap. There's also revenue sharing among teams, which is socialism. I'm not sure how they rationalize a "get all you can" mentality on one hand and then claim that players are overpaid.

Maybe because most of them aren't white.

You should also point out that ex-Football players and ex-Hockey players are hitting their mid-life crisis with severe head trauma. With 20 odd years of getting smacked around I'd want as big a salary as possible.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


SilentD posted:

I have no pitty for them, they make millions. But if you want to stir the pot you should point out that football only exists because it's socialism (only a few teams actually make enough to exist on their own, the NFL is socialism) and they are unionized to get those high payments. To boot, it's only due to government subsidies their stadiums even exist. Football is nothing more than a government paid for, union run, socialist organization.

I don't pity them exactly, but I empathize. I don't really give a gently caress about the owners.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


Watching Herman Cain go against Barack Obama would have been a hell of a interesting election though. I mean Obama still would have won but I'm intensely curious how all the racist idiots on the internet and in the gop would react.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


az jan jananam posted:

Iran hate was pretty open in 80s America



Man I can't think why. Maybe something to do with that hostage crisis.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


Man I'm pretty sure I've seen the Scooter Store(TM) commercial so many times, but didn't think any ill of it.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


Now to set up roosevelt.com just to gently caress with right wingers.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


AsInHowe posted:

It happened all around the country in 2010. None of it was surprising to people in politics, because those horrendously offensive emails were sent out, en masse, to every politician in the country. Everyone would get those emails, always with urgent requests to forward it to everyone you know. Most politicians deleted them, and some amazing idiots actually did forward them along.

The problem with that, every time something got sent out, the Tea Partiers sending emails would get reinspired to send over some more, typically the same one that got out. When Carl Paladino (the NY Tea Party candidate for governor) was caught forwarding videos of women loving horses, the Tea Partiers began frantically sending horse-loving emails, because that makes you a real American or some poo poo. Every offensively dumb mistake meant that everyone must double down on that mistake, because of the constitution and America and whatever.

As my candidate refused to forward those emails, or call the citizens of Detroit the n-word (saying that word means you are a patriot standing up for American values, according to Tea Partiers' email spam), the emails got more vicious and nasty. They figured that he wasn't one of them (he wasn't), so he must be a part of the vast conspiracy of everyone out to get rural white people.

Needless to say, was I surprised when Republicans all decided to say stupid poo poo about rape? Of course not! Because when one Tea Partier does something stupid, everyone has to do it out of solidarity to ignorance. The issue of rape, something that has pretty much been decided in this country (it's wrong and evil), suddenly kept coming up as a talking point without any prompting. If a Tea Partier gets criticized, even if it's for something completely appropriate to criticize someone on, everyone else has to join in. Or you aren't a 'real American/Tea Partier/Republican/patriot'.

The Republicans are not going to fix themselves with this attitude. I don't see it getting resolved, because their base is committed to ideological purges over ignorant ideas, and any effort to stop this means that whomever is a RINO.

Bringing it back to the right-wing media, you think the right-wingers that fostered this insular culture will let any leaders emerge to change it? Heck no.

That's loving bizzare. It sounds like something a shithead on 4chan would do, not someone who claims to represent traditional values.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


Brave New World posted:

It's because the deck is stacked entirely in the left's favor for the first time in decades, and everyone can sense it. Enjoy it while it lasts.

:hist101: All victory is fleeting...

Well, left for america. So basically FDR style liberalism.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


Ho Chi Mint posted:

Still sounds ignorant as gently caress. Nothing like a cute girl saying in her cute Southern accent how all the gays are going to hell.

It sounds ignorant no matter what part of the world the person came from.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


Phone posted:

It's so sad that those rapists lives are being ruined by the justice system.

I'm sort of conflicted on this whole issue since the US justice system is hosed up and totally does ruin lives but that really does not excuse rape in any way shape or form. I doubt any news network had that sort of nuance to their commentary though.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


ShadowCatboy posted:

I wouldn't underestimate the power of groupthink and mob mentality. Once one guy starts doing horrible poo poo, everyone else is predisposed towards thinking that it's okay. Frankly, I'd place way more culpability on the guy who initiated it than those who followed suit.

Yeah people underestimate the influence of your peers unless you've actually been right in the thick of it.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


Radish posted:

I must be getting old. What's the cool way to search on google now?

Using Chrome. :c00lbert:

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


And Bruce Springsteen.

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Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


7c Nickel posted:

I'm going to take a guess.



Because I've heard it too.

I heard it often enough when I lived in maryland so it's not necessarily a southern thing.

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