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BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
BlackAndRight is a conservative so we can say whatever the gently caress we want you guys


Kevin D. Williamson has got you guys number :smug:


http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/336481/risk-relativism-and-resources-kevin-d-williamson

quote:

Risk, Relativism, and Resources
Three things conservatives must know about progressivism in order to defeat it

By Kevin D. Williamson

Conservatives understand the intellectual roots of conservatism better than progressives do, for obvious reasons, but we also understand the intellectual roots of progressivism better than progressives do. That is the case in no small part because progressives prefer to think of themselves as non-ideological pragmatists and empiricists, and they are immune to the irony that their just-the-facts pose is only an echo of vintage “scientific socialism” and related 20th-century ideologies with which our contemporary progressives claim to have no kinship. (I know a guy who wrote a book about that.) Progressives do not study Marx, Bismarck, Croly, or their other intellectual founding fathers, because they do not believe them to be their founding fathers — and also because many of them are kind of embarrassing.

But even though we study the Left’s thinkers, spend years in the universities they administer, and swim in the popular culture they dominate, conservatives still occasionally fail to appreciate critical aspects of the progressive tendency — especially the most attractive ones. Perhaps we should make a New Year’s resolution to better understand them, if not for reasons of charity and intellectual probity (we should always engage our opponents on their most meritorious arguments), then at least because doing so will help us to advance in the theater of ideas.

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The political preferences that produced two terms for President Obama have been with us for a long time and will be with us long after the gentleman from Honolulu has completed the 82nd volume of his memoirs, and we would do well to better understand its attraction. The desire of one part of the population to live at the expense of another certainly is part of that, but conservatives are kidding ourselves if we think that the Democratic constituency consists entirely of freeloaders.

With that in mind, there are three ideas that should help guide conservatives’ thinking and policy prescriptions.

First: Progressives and those who sympathize with them are economically risk-averse compared with conservatives. As Charles C. W. Cooke recently pointed out, the terms “conservative” and “liberal” are sometimes confusing in the American context, and that is certainly true in the case of financial risk, about which conservatives are not conservative at all. As an academic study published in the American Journal of Business put it: “As the economic political orientation of the subjects in our study becomes increasingly conservative (meaning they lean more towards an economically libertarian position as opposed to an economically socialistic position), they assume significantly higher levels of risk in their investment decisions.” Other studies find similar results.

There are many ways to measure financial risk tolerance, but consider this: One of the riskiest things you can do with your money is start a business, and entrepreneurs and small-business owners skew heavily Republican. The 2011 survey from the National Small Business Association found that 54 percent of the organization’s members identified as Republicans, while only 16 percent identified as Democrats; it is significant that more small-business owners identified themselves as independents in the survey than as Democrats.

The Democratic party is in fact a coalition of financially risk-averse groups: Women, blacks, and Hispanics all exhibit a high degree of financial risk-aversion when compared with whites and men. Even when controlling for income, white households are more likely to invest in stocks and other relatively risky assets compared with non-white households, and men are more likely to invest in stocks than are similarly situated women, though those differences are somewhat diminished when accounting for net worth and education. Black and Hispanic households, even when adjusted for income, are more likely to invest in low-risk, low-yield assets such as government bonds:

African-American households are particularly conservative in their investment style, preferring real-estate assets and insurance products to stock and bond investments. Even within these relatively more popular investment categories, however, the mean values for all categories of real-property investments across the African-American sample lie well below their corresponding values in white households. This trend persists across all income and education levels.

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BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/2013/12/americas-reaction-to-phil-robertson-of.html

quote:

To paraphrase Patrick Bateman from American Psycho, "Do you like Phil Robertson?" [The Gospel According to Phil, GQ.com, 12-18-13]:

On why he voted Romney in 2012
Is he calling ducks, or a silent majority?

Lawrence O'Donnell posted:

“If I'm lost at three o'clock in a major metropolitan area...I ask myself: Where would I rather be trying to walk with my wife and children? One of the guys who's running for president is out of Chicago, Illinois, and the other one is from Salt Lake City, Utah. [Editor's note: Romney is from Boston, not Salt Lake City.] Where would I rather be turned around at three o'clock in the morning? I opted for Salt Lake City. I think it would be safer.”

On growing up in pre-civil-rights-era Louisiana

Lawrence O'Donnell posted:

“I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once. Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I'm with the blacks, because we're white trash. We're going across the field.... They're singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!... Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.”

Were blacks happy in pre-civil rights America?

"Who cares,"is the only logical answer, for in modern America, the corporate media, academia, and government exists as a perpetual springboard for addressing any slight against black people, amplifying this often imagined transgression as the return of the most bigoted form of thinking.

Considering the state of once-civilized cities like Newark, Philadelphia, Birmingham, Detroit, Camden, Baltimore, Memphis, and Jackson (Mississippi) - a now 86 percent black city that has elected a radical black supremacist/separatist as mayor - it's obvious the liberated black population of America has no problem mistreating formerly white cities and, more importantly, fellow black people.

Recall, more blacks have murdered in Detroit over a ten-year period (2003-20012) by other blacks than blacks were lynched in an 86-year period of time.

Of course you'd be safer in Salt Lake City than Chicago at 3 a.m. Why, just last night two black males, one a 74-year-old church deacon, were gunned down in the almost entirely black South Side of Chicago [Blues musician, church deacon killed in shootings blocks and minutes apart, Chicago Tribune, 12-20-13]:

A South Side blues musician about to record on a major label and a 74-year-old church deacon known for his work with youth were shot to death blocks from each other within 30 minutes, authorities said.

Police are looking into whether the deaths of Eric "Guitar" Davis, 41 and Willie Cooper could be connected, but had no details this morning. No one was reported in custody for either shooting.

Cooper, a retired CTA driver, was shot to death around 4:45 a.m. Thursday as he pulled up in the 7000 block of South East End Avenue. Police said he was ambushed by gunmen who opened fire on his Chevy sedan.

About half an hour later, Davis found dead in a car about three blocks north, in the 6700 block of South East End Avenue, police said. He had also been shot several times.

Eric "Guitar" Davis and Willie Cooper are just two black people, gunned down by two other black people in the South Side of Chicago; who cares, right?

Not when the names of Emmett Till and those four black girls killed in Birmingham in 1963 can be dragged out again to guilt white people and the Duck Commander about their inherited, collective, racist past. [Lawrence O'Donnell Tears Into 'Duck Dynasty' Star's Racist Comments, Huffington Post, 12-20-13]:

O'Donnell was dismayed by the comments, and said that Robertson lived through the murder of Emmett Till and the bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church that killed four little girls.

Lawrence O'Donnell posted:

"This has nothing to do with belief," O'Donnell argued. "This is about fact, historical fact."

Symbols.

That's all Till and those four black girls in Birmingham are to those trying to beat down any sense of racial pride and loyalty among white people, who realize something sinister is going on in a country where black pride and loyalty to the black race is encouraged and promoted (the same for the growing Hispanic community as well).

The Chicago edition of DNAINFO.com shares with us that 401 people have been murdered in Chicago this year; HeyJackAss.com points out it's actually 424, with 80.2 percent of the victims being black, 17.9 percent Hispanic, and only 1.9 percent white (Chicago is almost exactly 1/3 white, 1/3 black/ and 1/3 Hispanic in terms of demographics).

To paraphrase Clarence, George Bailey's guardian angel from It's a Wonderful Life: "You see White America, you really had a wonderful country. Don't you see what a mistake it was to just throw it away?"

Black America was much better off living in pre-civil rights America, when they were forced to live-up to a standard of civilization they are incapable of maintaining/sustaining on their own when granted the freedom to do so.

Just look to Detroit.

Just look to Camden.

Just look to New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina.

The great fear of those who seek the ultimate dispossession of whites from the nation their ancestors built, is that figures will emerge through the carefully choreographed menagerie of our non-white future; individuals who are beyond control, liberated from being apart of the egalitarian Global Force for Good the United States has become.

Standing firm for a specified morality is the ultimate form of protest in a world where immorality is promoted and rewarded; where treason is seen as a road to riches, rather than to perdition.

You can scoff at Duck Dynasty; you can laugh at the Robertson clan, pointing out that these hillbillies/rednecks are hardly worthy of admiration.

But you'd be missing the point.

Just like the Paula Deen situation showed us, something powerful has been building in America.

With the Duck Dynasty situation, it's almost palpable.

White America has, collectively, been a sitting duck for a long, long time.

One day, the right duck call will go out, and the sight of a large portion of white Americans daring to fly together will shock the establishment into an overreaction; but it's the reaction by many white Americans to the attack on Phil Robertson that shows us why a constant barrage of propaganda must be broadcast into our homes on a daily basis.

When you stand together, united, the pillars of the establishment shake, revealing a situation where almost every waking hour has been expended to create world where Glee and Modern Family can appear on network television; where every dollar has been spent to tell us 83 percent Detroit in 2013 is in a better situation than that of 84 percent white Detroit in 1953.

Lies.

A facade of unimaginable lies; where a white guy - famous for a long beard and a duck call - can become a symbol of defiance.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

BanjoFish posted:

At first I was really confused because the piece is poorly written, and a site called "stuff black people don't like" has to be some kind of ironic joke, and should probably be a blog about black issues by black writers but nooooope. He's written 6 (edit: 10) books about how awful black people are, including

snip


aint he a dream? :swoon:

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

Shagman posted:

Paul Kersey (the author of Stuff Black People Don't Like) is at the absolute most radical extreme of the White Nationalist movement. In fact I can't think of a single public figure of the movement more radical than him, mostly because I don't know anyone else stupid enough to publicly call for the extermination of all black people on their Twitter account (@sbpdl):



What I can tell about paul is that he's relatively young for most people in the movement (27), got fired from his job because he can't keep his loving mouth shut, hides his english accent and background from most people, and supposedly has a wife and kid (which I call bullshit on because no sane woman would want to be in a relationship with this condescending douche, let alone have his children)



interview on The Political Cesspool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFcctK7Albw

BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Dec 22, 2013

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
The Far-Right believes that there's a worldwide war going on against whites.

I'm just letting you all know.


http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/2013/12/home-invasion-gone-wrong-in-suburban.html


quote:

"Home Invasion Gone Wrong" in Suburban Indianapolis: Black Male a "Person of Interest" in Murder of White Mother and Daughter in 90 percent white Westfield

Black males invading the homes of white people in suburban Indianapolis has become something of a game in 2013.
"Person of Interest": black male sought in the murder of a white mother and daughter; a home invasion gone wrong in a 90 percent white suburb of Indianapolis

A game where people are dying, while a black police chief (once the president of the radical black police organization in Baltimore -- the Vanguard Justice Society -- an entity that has worked to make that police force for addressing imagine black grievances) lords over an increasingly black Indianapolis.

Two white men, James Vester and Robbie Gibson, gunned down in Indy by blacks in separate white privilege murders only days apart over the 2013 Thanksgiving weekend.

Now, in a thriving suburb of Indianapolis (a 90 percent white city and only 2.2 black), Westfield, two white women - a mother and her daughter - have been murdered in another home invasion.

A black male is a person of interest in the murder. [Police: Westfield house was invaded before homicides: Police search for person of interest, WishTV.com, 12-22-13]:

quote:

Westfield police say the double homicide that happened on Friday was a home invasion that occurred during the day.

Police say they did not find evidence of forced entry at first but have since determined it to be a robbery.

Police say both victims, mother Marylyn Erb, 52, and daughter Kelley Erb, 23, died from blunt force trauma. A relative arrived home, 15000 block of Oak Park Court, around 5 p.m. and found the two unresponsive.

quote:

A 2011 Maroon Buick Enclave was taken from the house and found a short distance away on East 161st Street.

Officials have identified a person of interest and released photos of that person.
"The police department has been working around the clock to find who is responsible for this and will continue to do so," says Mayor Andy Cook. "Residents should entrust that the police department and the city's primary goal is safe city and that hasn't changed. The evidence is being released to the public as quickly as it can be. I ask the city to be patient, but also diligent citizens and if they know anything to contact police."

"How can it happen here," you hear people say?

"Our town is so safe," you hear as well...
Another white victim (mother not pictured) in a nameless war; rest in peace Kelley

Because it has only white people who live there.

That we can't even say that is one reason the safety of any city in American can't be secured. [Westfield police seeking person of interest in murders, home invasion, CurrentinCarmel.com, 12-22-13]:

Westfield's Mayor Andy Cook said the police department had been working around the clock since Friday to find the person responsible for the murders. In a town recently named one of 2013's top 50 places to live in the country by CNN Money Magazine, the answers cannot come fast enough.

quote:

"It's amazing to think this could happen just minutes away from where you live," said 21-year-old John Sidery.

Sidery has just been home a week on Christmas break from college, but said he already feels like he came home to a different place.

"The Westfield I grew up in was always a very safe place and you never really hear of anything tragic and ill-intended like this was," explained Sidery.

The college junior said he wasn't looking forward to going back to school without answers, leaving his family behind.

"The fact that's this has happened once, doesn't mean it can't happen again and that's definitely going to play in my head the whole semester of college," said Sidery.


Blacks are turning large portions of Indianapolis into violent, mini-versions of Detroit. The police chief was imported from Baltimore with the hopes of being a black-skinned olive branch to the black community, who view the police as an 'occupying force' (black violence is responsible for almost all the murder and mayhem in Indianapolis, thus any measure to lower crime is seen as "racial profiling").



It's individual black people (and the greater black community who excuses away black violence and deflects the white majorities ability to defend civilization as 'profiling') who are destroying the viability of Indianapolis, just as they collectively ruined Camden, Newark, and Detroit.

White people in nearly all-white suburbs are now sitting prey for black people engaging in home invasions, with no organization or voice allowed to defend their interests. [Erika D. Smith: Violence in Indy takes horrific toll, Indy Star, 12-16-13]:

quote:

There's no way around it: 2013 has been a very bloody year for our city. And as we look toward 2014, it's a trend that simply can't continue. Not if we want the city to continue to be a great place to live, work and play, and the kind of city that hosts major events for national and international audiences.

But what can we do?

At this point, with the angry heat of the summer long gone and people — particularly young black men — still shooting each other in the freezing cold and snow, it seems like the violence is almost inevitable. That no matter what we as a community do, it won't make a difference.

Because it feels like we've tried everything in 2013.

We've talked and talked about youth violence. Countless columns and articles have been published about it in The Indianapolis Star. There have been forums on it, put on by entities ranging from Indiana Black Expo to Forest Manor Multi-Service Center and attended by police, prosecutors and judges.

Marylyn and Kelly Erb are dead, victims of yet another involuntary black-on-white interaction.

Merry Christmas, Indianapolis.

Let's hope most white people there ask Santa Claus for a solution to the black-on-white violence, for if nothing is done is soon, the city of Indianapolis is headed to a Detroit 2013 scenario.

A simple solution? Cut off all federal and state funding to single black mothers (or white women who birth black children by black men), with welfare, EBT/Food Stamps, and WIC no longer offered.

Another solution? Treat all black men in Indianapolis as they should be treated: individual threats to the existence of a viable civilization.

Prejudicial thinking saves lives; prejudicial action saves cities.

When individual actions by black males against whites in Indianapolis are aggregated together, pattern recognition should develop among those not cognitively challenged with visions of "judging by character" dancing through their heads.

Marylyn and Kelly Erb are dead, victims of yet another involuntary black-on-white interaction.

More victims of black-on-white violence in Indianapolis in 2013, the kind of gift people like Tim Wise love to unwrap any they did they receive the news of a 'white privilege murder'.

Posted by Stuff Black People Don't Like at 10:10 AM 128 comments




BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
One thing I can say about the Far Right is that they're quick to throw crime statistics (usually categorized by race) in their opponent's face. And if THAT doesn't work, childish insults (if you're a white girl, they automatically assume you must have sex with alot of black men... Yeah..)


I honestly feel that more and people like this are popping up at an alarming rate, and there's nothing we can do about it :smith:

BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Dec 24, 2013

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

WampaLord posted:

They're not, the Internet is just giving them a platform to express their hate speech. The next generation is already becoming less bigoted, less homophobic, etc. These attitudes and opinions are dying out, we're just witnessing the last gasps of it.

For example, it's hard to convince a 6 year old gays are evil when their friend has two dads.

The truly weird thing about them is the bizarre cognitive dissonance they all seem to share about their world view

take for instance some of the comments related to this article from American Renaissance:

http://www.amren.com/features/2013/11/a-black-mans-path-to-race-realism/

Question Diversity posted:


Black race realists can be perfectly good enemies of our enemies, but they can never truly be our friends much less us.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

WR_the_realist posted:

Black race realists can't be "us" but I don't see why they can't be our friends. Unlike some of the white nationalists in this forum, I see nothing wicked with having friends of other races, including intelligent black people. Certainly I have more agreement with Larry Murdock than I have with any number of white college professors and congressmen. Our biggest enemies are of our own race.

John R posted:

But, you might be able to CONVERT a White liberal over to our way of thinking. You cannot "convert" a black person into a White person. This is about White race survival. Blood is thicker than water.

KingKenton posted:

Then why are you here? You can't have it both ways. Extend common courtesy to a black you encounter in public? Yes. Be civil? Yes. Just ignore them? OK. Befriend them? No. Have we not learned anything? One little article from a Black race realist and all the sudden we're ready to have them be our friends, move into our neighborhoods, and invite them over for a BBQ? Perhaps I have misunderstood what you meant by your usage of "friend". If so, my apologies.

WR_the_realist posted:

If it was my goal to hate every single black (and every single Jew) I'd be posting on Stormfront, not Amren. The black average is unimpressive, to be sure. But that's not a reason I can't find common ground with a highly intelligent black man who is clearly dedicated to the truth, whatever it is. That is my goal too.

KingKenton posted:

WR_the_realist posted:

If it was my goal to hate every single black (and every single Jew) I'd be posting on Stormfront, not Amren...

No one is asking you to "hate" any Black or Jewish person. Choosing to not have black "friends" (that you wax so warmly about), does not mean you hate blacks. Your advocacy for having black "friends" sounds little different than calls for tolerance and diversity (your use of the word "hate" is a favorite of diversity mongers). Or the Christian who deludes himself into thinking Jews can be entrusted with positions of influence within a Christian society (yes, I'm Christian [not Christian Identity]).

If what you are really arguing for is working with black race realists to further the cause of Ethnonationalism, that is an entirely acceptable proposition. Calls for general unity (being "friends") between Black and White is entirely different matter and incompatible with White Nationalism which is dedicated to separation of Whites and Blacks. So which is it?

WR_the_realist posted:

But that's not a reason I can't find common ground with a highly intelligent black man who is clearly dedicated to the truth, whatever it is. That is my goal too.

Finding common ground with a Black person has nothing to do with being his "friend".

And what "truth" (your words), is this black race realist dedicated to exactly anyway? Apparently not a race realism which excludes marrying / procreating outside one's own race. Which is a rather odd and meaningless definition of race realism.

BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Dec 25, 2013

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
FarRight.txt

http://whitegenocideproject.com/beefcakes-bootcamp-episode-3-we-have-the-moral-highground/

http://whitegenocideproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/0003-WE-Have-the-Moral-Highground.mp3

:stare:

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
Listen to it.

Listen to it now.

He really thinks he's on to something :smith:

the apartheid never happened to these "WHITE GENOCIDE GON GO EXTINCT YALL :freep:" types

BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Jan 21, 2014

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

mr. mephistopheles posted:

As someone who thinks most conservatives are incredibly lovely people, this really seems too extreme to pin on any political affiliation. Even racist conservatives generally aren't this racist. I mean I guess this is like the right equivalent of anarchists planning the destruction of all government. It's just mentally ill people who have unfortunately been able to congregate and reinforce each other through the internet.

but don't you see its YOU who's mentally ill for supporting white genocide (which could totally mean anything cuz the UN said so) :smug:

forced integration = white people magically disappearing





quote:

John Randolph May 10, 2012 at 11:23 pm

Most of the following is almost verbatim from the podcast:

Don’t let them sucker you into answering their questions and defending yourself against their accusations of being a Nazi, racist, etc.

If someone says you’re just an evil racist, an example of what we would do is:

If every single black country and only black countries had been flooded with non-blacks and they were told they had a race problem and the only solution to that race problem was for them to intermarry and interbreed and assimilate until there was a mocha-colored humanity left where only black countries used to be, and if a black person had a problem with that genocide against their race, and speaks up, would you call them nasty names like “racist” too?

Point out the double standard, with a question. Keep pressing, keep asking…don’t let them squirm away.

Yes, you loving tard.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
Stop making the mistake that it's old people.

You have no idea how many "Ex-liberals" under 60 I've come across online

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

fade5 posted:

Ah, the Bullworth solution, although I've never seen it referenced in a negative fashion like that. No squirming, my answer is a positive, happy

The bizarre world view that dumb comment gives is that white people are somehow being forced to have sex with non-whites


WHERE THE HELL'S MY FREE WHITE WOMAN, "anti-racism is codeword for anti-white" GUYS?!

guess i must've missed that offer... :(

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
i see noone here is talking about dark enlightenment

good, i guess.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
you know what i love? liberal strawmen

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

Leofish posted:

So if I understand this right, you need to be a racist, sexist, homophobic, Islamophobic, xenophobic, inbred, bible-thumping, gun-toting, NASCAR-loving redneck in order to love America?

it's the same kind of dumb, lazy "TOLERATE MY INTOLERANCE" poo poo obnoxious conservatives use all the time when they think they're being clever

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
time for some good old British nationalism!

Positive Nationalism... sure.

quote:

Nick Griffin MEP is pushing for the newly formed Alliance of European Nationalist Movements to take concrete steps to present nationalist MEPs and their parties in a more positive light. "Despite decades of systematic dehumanisation and vilification," says Nick, "public sympathy for nationalists is growing all over Europe.

that sure is some irony!









http://www.bnp.org.uk/news/national/science-our-side

quote:


Science Is On Our Side

By Joshua Tindall - The left seem to love using the argument that we all have ancestors who are African, so it is foolish to be an ethno-nationalist! As many of you will know, when this claim is studied further, it actually supports ethno-nationalist theory. Oh the irony...

The theory of evolution has pretty much proven that we all originated as a single-cell organism. Does that mean we are all single-cell organisms? No! The same can be said for us all having African ancestors!

Divergence and the path evolved is what is important, not the source. Where we came from is not even near as important as where we went and how we developed and changed to survive our new challenges.

From Africa, many early humans moved to different climates, and this caused different types of evolution to take place (differences in the rate of breeding, differences in intelligence, differences in aggressiveness, etcetera).

These differences are what makes the world we live in so diverse today. The cultures that enrich this world are not coincidental; cultures are different because the peoples making the different cultures are different.

Are these differences not worth preserving? If we allow the mixing of peoples to continue, then the genuine global diversity will be destroyed. Multiculturalism and multiracialism is not beneficial, it causes all of the peoples and cultures to form together as a mongrel people and mongrel culture. Mixing many positive things together doesn't always produce something positive.

Who does this social experiment benefit? Our masters! If there is only one people and one culture, then the New World Order is easier to obtain. We're easier to control, and for the sake of the greedy profiteers, we're easier to sell to. One people, one culture, one currency, one customer and one government - that is the aim!

The nations that consist of people of European descent are the first to be attacked by these monsters who only seek to control. We, as the distinct nations and peoples of Europe, America and other white nations, must resist the forces that seek to destroy us.

We are nationalists - the true protectors of genuine diversity.



BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
http://www.libertyconservatives.com/really-dumb-pro-abortion-arguments-stop-making/

i honesty dont know how i came across this

A guy who was in the Ron Paul '12 campaign posted:


Three Really Dumb Abortion Arguments You Should Stop Making




As the series of shocking videos released by the Center for Medical Progress continues to land body blows on Planned Parenthood, fewer and fewer abortion advocates can be found to defend them. They are even slowly disappearing from the typically safe comments sections of traditionally left-leaning sources like Slate and my state’s resident MSM outlet, the Des Moines Register. Articles from pro-choice folks condemning the abortion giant seem to have knocked the legs out from some of the most vulnerable arguments lately, like the thinly-veiled falsehood that abortions only comprise 3% of Planned Parenthood’s services, or the notion that being pro-choice isn’t the same as being pro-abortion.

Still, a few liberal drones still venture out to the comments section each day to regurgitate equally meaningless drivel, along with a pinch of deflection and a hefty dose of ad hominem.

Some of the arguments presented by the left are at least intellectually honest enough to deserve a thoughtful response, but a few are so absurd, ill-informed, and misapplied as to be laughable. These facepalm-worthy arguments have become wearisome to the culture at large, and really aren’t worth the breath required to dismiss them. So to save the entire pro-life effort a lot of wasted time, let’s blow down these houses of straw so we can get back to the work at hand – exposing the horrific actions of the financially wealthy but morally bankrupt con artists at Planned Parenthood.

1) “If you don’t support welfare and other entitlements, you aren’t really pro-life!”

As far as one has to dig for anything resembling logic in this argument, I think the underlying assumption goes a little like this: if you really cared about people, you would want to help/support/pay for them at all stages of life, not just before they’re born. An admirable supposition, even if it had to be decoded like that one guy in Hot Fuzz.

At its core, this statement is a reflection of the left’s aversion to personal responsibility – an attempt to confuse the morality of an action with the motive for that action. The conclusion they’re trying to press is that allowing an unwanted child to endure any form of hardship – like poverty, health problems, or hunger – is equal to actively ripping that child in pieces. In fact, many extrapolate that ripping them in pieces or sucking their brains out is actually merciful, to keep them from having to grow up in the lower income brackets of the richest country in the world.

Do you see why this one made the stupid list?

Let’s frame a similarly ridiculous argument, and see how it holds up.

Let’s say I am a compassionate and tolerant liberal living in Chicago. I decide that there are too many underprivileged homeless people living on the streets of Chicago. In order to save them from their difficult and destitute lives, I draft a resolution and present it to the city of Chicago for adoption:

“Whereas many homeless people suffer from hunger, heat, cold, and poor health in Chicago, and whereas the city of Chicago is a compassionate and generous city that wishes to prevent any further suffering, be it resolved that the city of Chicago hereby authorizes city police to shoot any homeless person within the city limits and sell their organs.”

“But that’s crazy!” you say. “Homeless people are fully capable human beings!” Sure, some are – but not all of them. Some are weak, some are sickly, some are perpetual deadbeats, some have criminal backgrounds. Some will probably die soon anyway. And besides, nobody said that the police had to shoot them, just that they may shoot them. It is the right of the officer to choose. Aren’t you pro-choice?

Refusing to share my bank account with you does not in any way equate to me cutting out your kidney, no matter how many times such equivalence may be fluttered in the HuffPost comments. Pro-lifers fight to protect the inalienable right of the unborn child – the right to live. We do not demand that a woman keep and raise her child – in fact pro-lifers are the strongest proponents of adoption. If you don’t want to care for your child, give others the opportunity to. No child is ever worthless or unwanted.

The idea that it is somehow merciful to dismember babies in conscious agony rather than allow them to face the possibility of being born to poor parents is patently absurd. It is equally absurd to imply that if one is unwilling to take full financial responsibility for the life of a stranger, then one morally assents to the killing and organ harvesting of said stranger.

This argument is a waste of time and brain cells. Just stop.

2) “If you support war (or capital punishment), you can’t be pro-life!”

Okay for starters, how many people do you know that are actually pro-war? How many people (well, outside of those directly profiting from it – and maybe this guy) just like war for the sake of being at war? While obviously countries go to war for a number of reasons, seldom since Hannibal crossed the Alps has a nation sent its sons to die out of sheer boredom.

When we throw around terms like “pro-war”, what we really mean is that an individual has come to the conclusion that war is necessary – not that they just think it’s fun to kill people, burn cities, and see their friends and neighbors come back in bodybags.

In mathematical terms, saying one supports war means that they have weighed the cost of action and judged it to be more tolerable than the cost of inaction.

Saying that you believe the rationale for going to war is sufficiently convincing to send troops to fight is not a reasonable comparison to cutting up a defenseless – and offenseless – baby in the womb. This reveals an important truth about the pro-life movement that liberals seem unable to comprehend: we are pro-INNOCENT life.

Few rational people deny the inherent right of self-defense – that if someone is attacking you, you have a right to defend yourself with whatever force is necessary. This simple fact acknowledges that sometimes killing is not only morally permissible, but necessary. Pro-lifers acknowledge this.

The reality of the world is such that lives and liberties come in conflict with each other. When someone infringes upon the rights of others, they forfeit their own rights. When you steal from someone, you forfeit your own possessions and owe restitution. When you deprive another of liberty, your liberties are forfeit as well. When you take the life of another, whether criminally or by way of soldiers and machines, expect to lose your own.

Acknowledging action and consequence isn’t pro-death. It’s pro-justice. Our legal system does not employ capital punishment against random strangers picked up off the street for the amusement of the masses. We employ it against people who have committed horrible crimes against others and have already enjoyed every possible legal defense in order to allow them to prove their innocence.

Call me old-fashioned, but I think if you rape and kill a child, you deserve to die. Not because I hate you or don’t believe in forgiveness, but because one of the only legitimate purposes of government is to restrain injustice.

Likewise, if you bomb American buildings, shoot at American soldiers, or behead American civilians, you should be aware that, in the words of Ron White, “We will kill you back”.

Unless you can show that an unborn child who has not yet had the privilege of his or her first breath has mortally and maliciously harmed another and that their painful death and dismemberment somehow serves the purpose of justice, then there is absolutely no basis for this comparison.

Trying to liken the killing of Jihadists, murderers, and foreign combatants to the killing and dismemberment of human babies for the sake of convenience is desperate and misguided, and really doesn’t have a place in reasonable and intelligent discourse.

It’s a stupid argument, and it lowers the conversation.

Stop it.

3) “Birth control prevents more abortions, so you should support Planned Parenthood!”

The jaw-dropping backwardness of this statement is rivaled only by its popularity among Planned Parenthood’s dedicated army of internet orcs. Again, just to make sense of this, let’s try to add some sort of logical form.

Pro-lifers oppose abortion
Only pregnant people get abortions
Therefore, Pro-lifers should support efforts to stop people from getting pregnant.

I could spend pages facepalming my way through a comprehensive response to this fiesta of false choice, but in the interest of that whole brevity thing, I’ll limit myself to a couple mind-numbingly obvious points.

First, this argument assumes that birth control is only accessible – and can only be accessible – through continued taxpayer subsidizing of Planned Parenthood. With forms of birth control easily available at Wal-Marts and gas station bathrooms, it’s easy for anyone with a nominal sense of responsibility to avoid getting pregnant if they so choose.

Planned Parenthood does not provide any health care options that are not easily available from thousands of other non-abortive clinics all over the country. Including, obviously, birth control.

Next, this logically comatose argument presents a false dilemma: the assumption that one must either prevent pregnancy or terminate it. That’s it. People can’t be held responsible for their choices or asked to forego their immediate preference, so that’s the only choice.

It is the modern equivalent of someone in the 1800s arguing to keep blacks from having babies, or those babies would be enslaved. Bad logic aside, if you find this argument compelling in any way, you should probably seek psychiatric help.

That’s crazy. It’s evil. It’s absurd.

Abortion is not the inevitable outcome of unplanned pregnancy any more than drive-by shootings are the inevitable outcome of road rage. There’s another option: life.

Lastly, this argument assumes that the only way to prevent abortion is to stop people from becoming pregnant at all. Clearly, this is not the only way to stop abortion. In fact, the method most pro-lifers advocate is the prosecution and conviction of the perpetrators – you know, the same way we stop other murders.

Arguing that pro-lifers should support the nation’s largest abortion provider in order to prevent more abortions would be absurd enough in its own right, but making that case while Planned Parenthood is in mortal danger of being defunded and prosecuted as video evidence of criminal misconduct emerges, is way beyond dumb.

It’s a worthless and backward argument, undeserving of even the mental energy required to properly ridicule it.

Seriously, stop.

There are ways to have a meaningful discourse on abortion. There are important questions you need to be asking, like “When does life begin?” or “What does science say about fetal development?” or even “What are the philosophical and ethical implications of allowing the valuation of life to be based on consciousness, viability, or potential?” These are all conversations worth having.

But we will never get to those kinds of questions unless we can dispense with the denials, deflections, and downright bad logic presented in the kinds of arguments presented here.

Please, for the sake of truth, decency, and general sanity, let these terrible arguments die.
Just. Stahp.

BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Aug 17, 2015

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
I am shocked there isn't one "rational" response to the rape argument

like i was LITERALLY counting on this dude to go full on :freep: and say some poo poo like "rape is horrible, but killing the rape babby is worse! also the foster system is totally great for children and certainly isn't in need of any total overhaul or anything :downs:"

BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Aug 17, 2015

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

Necc0 posted:

In other news have any of the usual suspects freaked out about Straight Outta Compton yet?

http://www.wsj.com/articles/movie-studio-offers-to-pay-for-security-at-compton-screenings-1439417219

just throwing that out there


EDIT:

BattleHork posted:

At least Amazon doesn't send you off to the pachinko factory.

oh poo poo dude, i didnt know you were on SA too!

BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Aug 19, 2015

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

loving yikes

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
http://blamethe1st.blogspot.com/

PoesLaw.jpg

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
Have you stupid libtards realized the Welfare State is whats ACTUALLY holding black people back, making them completely dependent on SNAP? The best way to help the poor is to not help them at all :shepface:

Nothing short of amazed this narrative still gets played in 2016

good 'ol Thomas Sowell :allears:

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
crossposting from DE Thread

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
crossposting DE Thread

Race Realists posted:

Model Minority (Tommy Sotomayor) and Well Known Shithead (Colin Flaherty) live streaming.. TOGETHER FOR THE FIRST TIME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afEcWQLDafM

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

Chilichimp posted:

Just told my mom what i think about Trump, and that im voting for Clinton.

We had a shouting match for 5 minutes, she guilted me about my health and basically brushed me off and I'm pretty sure she went to her room and cried.

Feeling good, you guys! :smith:

this is why my folks will never know I'm agnostic

"Guilted" you about your health? Curious to know exactly what trump is offering in terms of medical insurance

BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Sep 25, 2016

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

Keeshhound posted:

Both of my parents are pastors and while they're not happy about me being agnostic, they're able to respect me enough to not hold it against me. Stories like this always remind me of how fortunate I've been.

Black family in Georgia. Nuff said

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
https://twitter.com/KelemenCari/status/780396613848080385

https://twitter.com/KelemenCari/status/780391956153114625

https://twitter.com/KelemenCari/status/780394345765609474

https://twitter.com/KelemenCari/status/780399800176873472

:iiam:

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
yeah i know durr hurr /pol/ but i came across some odd posts

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/90387933#p90398845

quote:

>>90387933 (OP)
>waaaaah why are the peasants rebelling

It is true that most people don't understand much of politics/science etc. They live in the world the elites have created for them. If they don't like it they back anti-establishment candidates like Trump/Farage etc.

The political/media/cultural/academic elite is busy building a globalist multicult dystopia and the people start feeling the consequences of it on a large scale.

There is nothing intrinsically wrong with voters not understanding latest macroeconomical theories. They have to live in the world these economists co-designed. And they don't like it.

He should be happy the masses can vote otherwise he could end up hanging off a lamppost.

quote:

>>90406699
Nailed it perfectly, couldn't have said it better myself. We are living in a nightmare and many of us want out, we see Trump as the only one who can at least lend us a line out of the hole we are in, dug and shoved into, by the that very same elite class.

these two really stuck out to me (particularly the last one). I feel bad for them honestly :smith:

at the end of the day, these are people who were tricked into believing in an idyllic past

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

Race Realists posted:

yeah i know durr hurr /pol/ but i came across some odd posts

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/90387933#p90398845



these two really stuck out to me (particularly the last one). I feel bad for them honestly :smith:

at the end of the day, these are people who were tricked into believing in an idyllic past

quote:

>>90387933 (OP)
People see what exists now.. they see where the past actions of previous admins have brought us and we don't like it.

We are a risk taking people ..Look at the Pilgrims for Heaven's sake. They set out to a very uncertain future under great peril and forged the greatest nation ever to exist on earth.. yours notwithstanding at least in its former glory...

This mock at Trumps supporters lacking of formal advanced education is just smug self aggrandizement and is not of the character of truly enlightened to those possessed of real genius. Such genuinely brilliant minds see the value in everything and would never see berating others for their formal educational attainments as a viable strategy.

If anything such upbraiding will just cement the confidence of those people in their determination to shake things up by their electing Trump to give the middle finger to an establishment which has taken their existences for granted all the while giving their presence some lip service or recognition as the foundation of the republic. The Middle Class..

Well now "we the people" are finally going to do what out forefathers made possible and steer our our ship of state .

since when the hell did freep start going on /pol/?


quote:

>>90387933 (OP)
Yeah goys don't get Trump is an idiot? Just realize your idiots as well and it's time to give up your country.
Just hand it over to the niggers and the spics goyim, I know their IQs are lower but they're not racist cisgender white men like you goyim.
It's the darkies turn, so come on be mensch just admit defeat, hand of they country your people build and lay down and die.

ah here we go okay SHOWS OVER GUYS IM DONE

BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Sep 26, 2016

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
Black Lives Matter vs All Lives Matter Supporters (Social Experiment)

:qq:WAHHH SOME BLM SUPPORTERS WERE MEAN TO MEEEE :qq:


EDIT:

https://twitter.com/JoeySalads

https://twitter.com/JoeySalads/status/780802717128151041

https://twitter.com/JoeySalads/status/780747297344851969

ohhhh ok. that explains it!

BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Sep 27, 2016

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

CrazyLittle posted:

oh that shitstain Sam Hyde. I am unsurprised.

lol at the butthurt fanboy using the Genius Chrome extension

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/genius-web-annotator/ccaokncpmmjiakalbcfdbfmpcaiddjdn

BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Sep 27, 2016

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

Spacedad posted:

For me now it's just a question of if this will be the beginning of the end for the alt-rights 'rise' this election cycle.

I do not want this to be the end of the Alt-Right's rise

I want Racial Realism to hit the mainstream

I want White Nationalism to hit the mainstream.

I want Men's Rights Activism/Men Going Their Own Way to hit the mainstream.

I want all types of toxic poo poo to the hit the mainstream.

I want to wake up morning, and see Steve Sailer, Peter Brimelow, John Debyshire, Taki Theodoracopulos, and Jared Taylor on my TV screen

I want the world to see them. To learn from them as an example.

I'm sick of this poo poo.

BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Sep 28, 2016

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

stormfront doesnt count because its considered a joke even in Alt-Right circles

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
https://twitter.com/TIME/status/780907391932108800

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

woke wedding drone posted:

Yeah but you can tell he wanted to bash Quanell X's face in but he couldn't do it because he was on TV.

Like, the guy you bring on as a caricature to scare white people, he does what you brought him on for and still you can't contain yourself.

At risk of bringing up the Black Brute Stereotype, Quanell would stomp a mudhole in his rear end

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

Spacedad posted:

There's also probably something about the arrogance of techbro culture in there as well.

And a lot of the alt-right is made up of people very defensive about tech culture being 'invaded' by feminists/minorities.

They seem to want tech to be an uncontested playground for bigoted white dudes play out their fantasy of being aryan alpha-male supermen.

Like, really viciously so - to the point of organizing large-scale and years-long efforts to stalk, defame, & harass people they don't like (mostly women & minorities) out of tech. What Palmer Luckey was involved in was the tip of the iceberg of what the people he was associating with have done.

Tech basically has its own kind of kkk of anonymous bigoted assholes who organize efforts to chase minorities out of silicon valley - I'm glad there's now starting to be backlash and consequences against that.

every. single. Alt-Right ive come across online is some STEMlord with delusions of being the next techbro

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

Spacedad posted:

Yeah well, all that is just excuses and pretext to chase women/minorities out of tech through harassment.

There's always 'true believers' who convince themselves they have some cockamamie noble cause that justifies that abuse, but they also always have ringleaders who know drat well exactly what they're doing and even spell it out as such.

It's always about finding any possible 'angle' to leverage abuse and harassment against women/minorities, pretty much.


Alt-right types fetishize techbro culture often without actually being in tech. Same with STEM. It's rooted in a sense of white male supremracism.

They implicitly think STEM/tech culture is 'theirs' even if they aren't involved in it. And thus, they want to attack any perceived invaders with the usual ignorant paranoid fury that white male supremacism is known for.

With that weird sense of entitlement you get a lot of these non-tech non-stem people often attacking people who are actual-stem actual-tech people.

You really have idea just how right you are dude.

There is literally an entire industry filled with people like that. They have power and influence. And it's downright frightening :smith:

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Found a new home
snip

really loving tired of Alt-Rights obsession with 1984


EDIT:

https://twitter.com/ElvisNixon7/status/783681384175005696

quote:

White Fragility
Robin DiAngelo

Abstract

White people in North America live in a social environment that protects and insulates them from race-based stress. This insulated environment of racial protection builds white expectations for racial comfort while at the same time lowering the ability to tolerate racial stress, leading to what I refer to as White Fragility. White Fragility is a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress becomes intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves. These moves include the outward display of emotions such as anger, fear, and guilt, and behaviors such as argumentation, silence, and leaving the stress-inducing situation. These behaviors, in turn, function to reinstate white racial equilibrium. This paper explicates the dynamics of White Fragility.

https://twitter.com/StopBLMterror/status/783690795651993601

https://twitter.com/sbpdl/status/783686833104363520

https://twitter.com/CounterCouncil/status/783687906074304512

BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Oct 6, 2016

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
https://twitter.com/TheeCurrentYear/status/781599912639234052

https://twitter.com/PeterSweden7/status/783106625846513664

BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Oct 6, 2016

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Sep 24, 2012
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