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Okonner posted:I enjoyed that rant Centripetal Horse and have saved it for future use in pointless Facebook arguments. I can picture the thoughtful replies now. "You're generalizing!", "I don't believe any of those things!"
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Censorship has often been used to refer to the actions of private institutions, among academics and pretty much every source which one could extrapolate a definition of "censorship" from. As the National Coalition again Censorship explains, plenty instances of censorship are perfectly legal. The most egregious examples would be the old Hollywood blacklists and the CCA. Studios aren't obligated to hire gays and stores aren't obligated to stock comics featuring themes they don't like, but when done on a big enough scale it can deprive individuals of their livelihood. Does it apply to someone who needs Twitter to make a living? Hypothetically, maybe, but I can't bring myself to care what happens to Milo. The only thing that leaves a bad taste in my mouth is the fact that this case was handled differently because it was directed at a celebrity and not some rando. If the users making the actual racist tweets weren't banned than what the gently caress
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BigRed0427 posted:Does Twitter do anything about sharing fake/photoshopped tweets? because Milo was doing that as well. I doubt it, unless lying is against the TOS
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lynch_69 posted:Whenever you see a user on twitter making egregious and blatant racist attacks they usually have anime avatars or some other throwaway image they GIS'ed and added to their profile. And when you click on their profiles, as I often do out of morbid curiosity you see that they recently signed on, don't have that many followers and almost exclusively tweet about a single topic, usually whatever the flavour of the week is at reddit/4chan central. Honestly most of this could be solved by an account option to only see replies from verified accounts. Many people don't realize that using Twitter is equivalent to stepping into the world's largest message board and all the garbage that comes with loosely-moderated forum culture, in many instances it's their first time interacting with anonymous users. je1 healthcare fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Jul 20, 2016 |
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Flesh Forge posted:If anything I'm surprised it's not better. GW Bush's approval rating post-911 got up to 88 percent. Keep in mind Bush's approval rating tanked after hurricane Katrina, the difference being that no democrat was willing to complain about the republican agenda in the face of an apparently greater external enemy. A natural disaster is another thing. It will depend on how high the bodycount will be, because a large contingent of right-wingers think this is no worse than Obama's swine flu epidemic and everything is only shut down because of the media
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Parrotine posted:Kind of an out-of-the-blue question here, but do you think we will ever see the death of Fox News as a network within a millenial age bracket's lifetime? Also same question but with Talk News Radio; I feel like that one will go down quickly once Rush finally kicks the bucket since there's not really anyone else to 'pass the mantle' to in a sense, and the closest thing they had was when Glen Beck was still doing his radio show before jumping aboard the crazy train at Fox News. The only way Fox news collapses is if another right-wing network like OANN or Newsmax steals their audience. Which may happen considering the growing number that somehow consider Fox to be too liberal. People predicted that Fox would tank once Roger Ailes died and a bunch of their top hosts got sacked for being sex pests. Nope, their ratings still remained dominant even as sponsors got iffy about supporting Tucker Carlson or Hannity They exist because of a market demand from people who want a highly-filtered version of reality, if the top conservative pundits vanished then their viewers will seek out another one, and not migrate to actual news sources. Limbaugh is #1 but he doesn't even command most of that market anymore. There's dozens of other right-wing radio hosts following his same business model for the past 30 years, lots of them are already millionaires and are on Fox's shortlist for future hosts.
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Mark Levin also called himself a never-Trumper, and went on multiple rants about how Trump winning the party nomination would be the end of the GOP. But then he won, and coincidentally saw the light. They don't care about national outcomes and on some level know that they get more viewers when democrats are in power.
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Groovelord Neato posted:Trump is an enormous crybaby who folds like a cheap suit. He's gonna stamp his feet about how he totally won if you don't count the 20 million illegal votes and tweet from his golden apartment. More realistically, he will get his own show on OANN or start his own network like he originally wanted, because he and his followers would rather forever believe that the system is cockblocking them.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i am honestly surprised the chuds are trying the morality warrior poo poo again. outside weird boomers and weird fringe twitter types, that gets nowhere especially now. Tucker is a younger face, but his audience is still mostly geriatrics. Feigning outrage over spring break b-rolls is an annual Fox news tradition
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PhazonLink posted:reminder, every spring break (well not this years) Fox News sends a crew to popular spring break spots to have news pieces the moral degeneracy of college students. And for extra fun, Jessie Waters will go interview bikini girls on the beach about US history trivia to make the ideal supercut of only wrong answers. Haha this 19-year old stoner can't identify Ronald Reagan! Which then segways back to the studio for a segment on failing public schools and this generation etc etc, but it's always in service of boosting the ego of old people
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If twitter's any indication, a lot of right-wingers are pledging to switch to OANN or Newsmax. If the Fox audience shrinks for the first time, I wonder if it will cue the execs to go more extreme or not. The main complaints are that their "straight news" anchors exist, and they sometimes allow democrats to talk.
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ErIog posted:The end product is really strange and something not a lot of people are doing. National Review was always kind of paving the road between the racist path the GOP was trailblazing, but they never really supported the Trumpist project in full. Most hosts either went all in on Trump to the point of sounding very QAnon or they went anti-Trump. Didn't Levin call himself a never-Trumper back in the first primaries? And spent weeks screaming about how Trump would mark the end of the republican party? So of course Trump wins and Levin does a 180 because he wouldn't have an audience otherwise. I'm sure he and other right-wing pundits are aware to some degree that Trump has been bad for their party. But on some level, it really doesn't matter to them whether the GOP succeeds or fails, because their jobs become magnitudes easier when democrats are in charge.
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PT6A posted:It's odd because Falun Gong vs. the CCP is one of those situations where I don't think I can determine who I loathe more. They each have some very valid points about why the other is absolutely awful, and I end up hating both of those organizations. The CCP is resposible for the deaths of millions of people, whereas the Falun Gong is more comparable to scientology. Sure, scientology is a pyramid scheme that gives out bad medical advice, but if the government started detaining every single follower just for existing then I might feel bad for them. The tragic thing about oppression is that it often turns the victims into future oppressors. Sort of like how a lot of refugees from Cuba wound up becoming diehard republicans, they sided with whoever claimed to be the most anti-communist. So the Falon Gong are legimate victims of oppression, which resulted in a lot of Chinese diaspora backing Trump simply because he talked tough against China. And in the process they immersed themselves in the right-wing media sphere, because after a life of consuming bullshit from the Chinese state media they want the furthest thing from it. But they have yet to realize that independent media is also capable of lying, just for different reasons. But I'm still not sure if the exiled Chinese millionaires funding the Epoch Times are true Qanon believers or if they just see more money in selling right-wing gruel. The outlet was a lot more grounded in reality 5 years ago tldr systemic oppression creates broken people je1 healthcare fucked around with this message at 06:34 on Feb 19, 2021 |
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PT6A posted:Not to excuse the many crimes of the CCP against this and other groups, but I think I'd have to say the answer is somewhere decidedly in the middle here. Cults have the potential to be ridiculously harmful, and at some point private belief of crazy things bleeds into the public realm when it involves other people and society. Jonestown was not innocent, Scientology is not innocent, the FLDS is not innocent, and the idea that these groups should be more or less allowed to do harmful things on the basis that the organization is founded in metaphysical or religious claims rather than something else, is ridiculous. I somewhat agree. But it should be the individuals who are actually guilty of harming people that should be held responsible, either because they actually did something illegal (like kidnapping, extortion), or because they gave deadly medical advice. The CCP's course of action has been to issue mass extrajudicial detentions of every single Falun Gong follower regardless of context. The government somewhat supported the religion up until they performed a peaceful mass-protest at the capitol. To which the CCP then saw it as a threat to their power. Tens of thousands of followers have vanished, Falun Gong claims they had their organs harvested and that they have the documentation to prove it. I have no idea how much of that is true, but we do know that the CCP still performs organ harvesting of prisoners, which in turn creates a financial incentive to imprison and sentence more people to death. The leaders of Jonestown and Scientology aren't innocent, but the victims are mostly their own followers. letthereberock posted:The two things are different though - the tank photo came out when Dukakis still had a theoretical chance of winning. By the time of the Dean scream Deans campaign was pretty much DOA There's also the fact that our media landscape was a lot less fragmented back then. When a politician's gaffe got featured on late-night talk shows, pretty much everyone at your workplace the next day knew about it. Dean and Dukakis were entirely at the whims of the three major networks
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Dirk the Average posted:It's surprising, because you'd think all you need is someone willing to sell their soul and spew bile all over the microphone for a few hours a day. I don't think that's the reason why, Sean Hannity's radio show gets nearly the same numbers that Limbaugh's did. There's a dozen other nationally syndicated right-wing radio hosts that have become millionaires spewing the same bile. Limbaugh's death changes nothing, he's a product of an audience. Although I am curious if they'll play all of his failed predictions of past years. Remember when radical socialist Barack Obama was supposed to end capitalism and permanently put America into a socialist dystopia?
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FilthyImp posted:Gina Carano did the Republicans Charitygrift Speaking Tour at Shapiro's. Nobody tell her that the Germans were already anti-semetic for centuries, the nazis didn't make them that way. The party just pandered to existing bigotries in one-third of the population and got elected for it.
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HootTheOwl posted:Did you know radio Hannity is selling hustlers? they're rideon mowers, and he sells them like sexy cars. Wasn't the twist supposed to be that Ace made out with a cis male ex-NFL player that had murdered and stolen the identity of the women he thought he was making out with? I don't think trans people transition as part of an elaborate revenge and murder plot, Finkle was not attempting to live as his authentic self je1 healthcare fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Apr 9, 2021 |
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I do remember seeing Red Eye over a decade ago and thinking it wasn't offensively bad like the Half-Hour News Hour was. It was mostly Gutfield and musicians clowning on celebrities and democrat politicians, which is fair game. One time they mocked the Canadian military for implementing new measures to reduce troop suicide rates, because therapy is only something pansy liberals believed in, but they later apologized for the segment. But there was a huge degree of self-deprecation, they were a step above the rest of the Fox News lineup in that they didn't claim to be truth-tellers. At the same time there was also that film "An American Carol" where Chris Farley's brother plays Michael Moore as he's lectured by various ghosts about why America is so great. Moore himself is easy to mock but most of the film was boring preaching.
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Twelve by Pies posted:Whether or not Finkle was trans, I don't know of many cis males that would get breast implants for the purposes of passing as a woman when there's much easier ways to go about it. In fact that's part of the "joke" at the end is Ace rips off Finkle's shirt to try and reveal fake breasts, only to see actual breasts and remark "Well that kind of surgery can be done over the weekend!" That's a good point, although it all hinges on whether they perceived Finkle as a transwoman or as a man, the former being transphobic and the latter being.....sexist. Which most sexual orientations are in effect, sexist. And the LGBT community is still trying to figure out if it's bigotry to refuse to sleep with people based on their sex. Aside from that it's pretty normal to not want to make out with someone who's actually a murderer manipulating you into an elaborate revenge plot, or anyone else that lies about their identity for sociopathic reasons. Most cis men wouldn't spend 10 years trying to kidnap and murder Dan Marino over a single bad play, but the point was that Finkle was psychotic. You could argue that the lack of trans-representation at the time caused this film to poorly inform people on the fact that transgenderism is a legitimate psychological condition, and it would be another 20 years before it entered the mainstream consciousness. But the jury's still out on whether anyone who has committed hate crimes against trans people were influenced by these kinds of media portrayals, to any degree. If so, then virtually every depiction of men doing nefarious things in drag becomes a social problem. And yet men were murdering crossdressing prostitutes upon being "tricked" long before film and television existed VitalSigns posted:The prejudice is still bad today but it's almost hard to remember how bad it was just 10 years ago let alone the 90s. Trans people were considered insane and a joke so recently. Remember when Kucinich answered a lovely question about a trans person as a judge by simply saying yeah he wouldn't discriminate against a qualified appointment if they were trans, and Jon Stewart treated this as crazy left-wing nonsense and made "Judge Chick With Dick" jokes Oh wow, I'm just remembering now that Colbert did 'tranny' jokes and asian impressions throughout the 2000s. So were most late-night hosts. It's easy to forget that even most leftist at the time had no concept of transgenderism besides "looks like some kind of fetish I dunno" But Jay Leno now says he felt really bad about it the whole time, promise. je1 healthcare fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Apr 10, 2021 |
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Twelve by Pies posted:I'm not sure who "they" is in the sentence. If it's the writers, then death of the author is a thing and whether they were purposely writing Finkle as trans or just as a crazy cis male, that doesn't matter when it still can be interpreted as "trans women are just men dressing up as women to trick straight men." If it's the cops who started puking in the final scene, again, they didn't start puking when they all found out that they had all been making out with Finkle/Einhorn, they started puking when Ace showed them the penis tucked between the legs. That is absolutely "Gross I kissed someone with a penis." And as someone said before, Ace already knew Finkle was psychotic and he didn't freak out about that, he freaked out when he went "Einhorn is a MAN!" which led to the puking/shower scene. I suppose so, but the latter joke seems more at the expense of Ace, who is more worried about sleeping with a man then having cracked the case. It's comical that he's sticking a plunger on his face in order to force himself to puke and lighting his clothes on fire, because not even bigots would do that. That and, penis or not, it's pretty universal to be traumatized upon discovering that someone used a fabricated identity in order to sleep with you, especially in service of a crime. Remember in Revenge of the Nerds when one of the geeks tricks a girl into sleeping with him by wearing a mask and pretending to be her boyfriend? And after she discovers his real identity, she's totally okay with it because he was good at sex? Except no wait, that's totally rape and the director apologized for it decades later. I'm struggling to see the difference between the two scenes, beyond the ongoing trope that it's funnier when men act sexually violated compared to women. PT6A posted:To be fair, "he isn't actually a trans woman" is a thing that numerous people have told actual trans women for whatever reason. I agree that Buffalo Bill is not actually a trans woman as a character, but Lecter saying that is not why that's the case. Sterling also said that Bill's violent behavior was atypical for trans people, they were mostly docile and peaceful. You could speculate that Lecter made a bad diagnosis but his skills as a psychologist are never called into question in the context of the movie.
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Twelve by Pies posted:Because Ace Ventura literally says "Oh my god, Einhorn is a MAN!" and starts dry heaving. That's not a paraphrase, that's not a Cliff's Notes version of the scene, that is literally the line Ace Ventura speaks. He didn't say "Oh my god, Einhorn is not actually Einhorn but somebody else who stole her identity!" It is clearly obvious he is starting to vomit because he is grossed out by Einhorn being a man. Ok. I just think transphobia requires an trans person or character to be involved, and am not entirely sure if it's bigotry to refuse to sleep with people of a certain sex. The LGBTQ+ community is still figuring this out, and I'm deferring to them on the issue. In other contexts, it's legally rape to lie about your identity in order to sleep with someone, and the scene exists because Hollywood considers it funny when men cry in the shower because they've been borderline raped.
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HootTheOwl posted:Are we talking about "Ching-chong Ding-dong?" Because I know that Asian impression were explicitly a dig on someone who was trying to play off some racism by saying "it was just an impression". Pretty much, although Colbert was playing the role of a mildly racist right-wing pundit. Jay Leno doesn't have that excuse.
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VitalSigns posted:It's not the same situation at all. The cops never met the real Einhorn, it wasn't like they were dating her and then Finkle sneaked in Revenge of the Nerds style with a mask on and hosed them and they thought it was someone else. I'm a day late, but this is the explanation I was looking for. Thanks! From what I understand the issue is more about the negative portrayal of crossdressing as something people due to hide their sex for nefarious reasons, more than anything. That, and jokes about men acting like they've been raped only seem to land when they've victimized by either an ugly woman or another man, resulting in such gags being homophobic on top of that. FilthyImp posted:Someone get the pitchforks for JEB! and Rafael "Ted" Cruz I've seen those guys get mocked for their real names, but only on twitter. Actors and rappers also get their original names thrown at them as a way of mocking them for having constructed identities and being 'inauthentic'. But because those things merely disrespectful as opposed to being bigoted, this contributes to people assuming that trans identities are like stage names that one can just look past on a whim. There's a real lack of education on how traumatic deadnaming can be for certain people
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No Safe Word posted:Deadnaming trans people and calling Ted Cruz his actual name that he hasn't transitioned from are very very different things. Calling Ted Cruz Rafael as an insult is dumb and probably racist but pointing out his actual name because he is mocking Beto O'Rourke for going by a different name that he's used since childhood is fine and should be done. Oh I know. I'm saying most people don't see the difference, that deadnaming is just like referring to Snoop Dogg as Calvin Broadus
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Weldon Pemberton posted:Here is the link to the video in case anyone wanted to see it and check out the downvote ratio. There are references to non-binary and trans people so it has cast a wide net- I can see how it's offended not only chuds but also TERFs and people who would not admit to being homophobic but go on about not 'ramming it down people's throats'. The parade is mostly fine, kids need to learn that some families have two moms or two dads. But it also drops a couple of lines and concepts without providing any additional context, and it's not clear what kids should take from it "Some people choose their families"- As an adult I get what that means, but what does a toddler take from it? That they can also choose their families? No they can't, it's a reference to how some people get out of abusive households and meet people who accept them, who become their new 'families'. And it's arguably not even a choice. It's a topic kids should learn though. Not sure what the drag queen factor adds to it, it's a fine hobby/kink but not really a civl rights issue. It's great that Nina wants to help kids, but but refusing to do it as anything other than a drag queen sends the message that how one signals themselves to others is less important than how they treat people. But seeking a receptive audience of kids just to validate an adult's desired identity is a million times more common outside of the LGBT community. Same thing with draq queen story hour. Reading to kids is great! Refusing to do so if you can't wear a specific costume kind of proves what the real priority is. We can teach kids not to judge others for their clothing or physical appearance and feel good about it, but then when they turn into teens we have to re-teach them that society will in fact judge them for their apperance, and so they need to follow dress codes and grooming practices
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:"Politics" is also twitter dipshit shorthand for "inclusion of a woman with a non-sexualized character design" or "inclusion of a racial or sexual minority under any circumstance". There is no reason for any character other than straight white males and their submissive helpmeets to exist in comics/video games/cartoons other than purely political reasons, you see. But most instances of minority characters or non-sexualized characters designs don't ever actually get accused of being political, even on twitter. Their complaints about Capt America having not-conservative views are still pretty stupid, but not for that reason
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Unfortunately if he recovers he's going to have a slideshow of people on twitter wishing him dead to confirm his audiences biases. HAHAW so much for liberal "empathy"!
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:poo poo like gamergate helped propel it, especially among younger people, but the state of the US right today goes back way further. Dudes like Romney, Liz Cheney, and the Bush clan act like they're ashamed but the inmates are running the asylum directly because of right-wing political strategy that started long before. Gamergate hardly propelled anything, it consisted of 5,000-10,000 supporters at it's peak, and half of them weren't even american, and most identified as leftist or liberal. Sean Hannity has been speaking to 3-5 million people 5 days a week for the past 15 years. Even stormfront's registered userbase dwarfs gamergate's most optimistic numbers. It was inevitable that white nationalists would creep onto every other new social media site that became popular. The Tea Party movement alone was a million times more influential on the state of modern conservatism, and it's amazing how many people have forgotten all the insane rallies and the record number of seats the GOP picked up in 2010.
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Groovelord Neato posted:So Mark Levin thinks the Frankfurt School is called the "Franklin School" and has made that error multiple times on air and even in his current bestselling book. Which is amazing, if negative Amazon reviews are anything to go by his books are 60% quotes to begin with.
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CodfishCartographer posted:I've always been under the impression that Poole himself isn't that hateful or bigoted, compared to the multiple allegations against Lowtax. Which is surprising since 4chan is markedly worse than SA, but I guess there is some argument to be made that the worst of the bigotry came after Poole left, since I think the hate on the site really ramped into overdrive around 2016. I think after gamer gate he may have realized the hate on the site wasn't just edgy teenagers trying to get attention anymore, or at least it wasn't as easy to convince others of that anymore. Poole had to cooperate with multiple police investigations into death threats and crimes posted on the site, and had to testify at one trial even before gamergate existed. So, that wasn't new, the site had been used to leak the location of bodies. Ironically the fappening leaks might have been the biggest legal headache for him, as it occurred at the same time GG peaked, and resulted in more people getting arrested. Still you could delete 4chan, but it's not like the userbase vanishes. There's also a dozen 4chan clones that they can seamlessly transition to. And before there were imageboards there was stormfront, which had been under FBI watch for the past 20 years for being the source of irl hate crimes. Hate.com was a documentary made in the year 2000
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nine-gear crow posted:The transition from Bush to Obama and the rise of the Tea Party was basically the end for her. The likes of Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck displaced her as the go-to craziest and evilest motherfucker on the block willing to say anything into a microphone and no one wanted her boring played out antics anymore. They all quickly burned out and faded into irrelevance too, but she didn't even have a moment to try and regain her footing because by that point it was 2014 and The August That Never Ended had rolled around and Gamergate and its associated flotsam and jetsam washed in a wave of even crazier attention-grabbing figures in the likes of Ben Shapiro and Milo and Weird Mike Cernovich and Stephen Crowder and were able to capitalize with their e-savvy into spaces Coulter was too old and techno illiterate to even think of reaching. Wasn't Coulter a never-Trumper? I distinctly remember her bad-mouthing him in 2016. And Crowder and Shapiro were established neocon brands with their own shows nearly a decade before gamergate, and even then they didn't have any involvement besides a glib tweet or two. Anyway, Ann's book sales gradually declined in the late 2000s as younger conservative firebrand women took her place. I was expecting Michelle Malkin to fill the void, which she sort of did. But then Malkin apparently severed herself from the CPAC circuit in protest of them banning some proud boys, so now she's just organizing blue lives matter and pro-ICE rallies.
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Staluigi posted:coulter has some degrees of consistency in terms of what she will ideologically put out for ... but is, at heart, an opportunistic shill Ah right, it's a hell of a jump to go from "In Trump we Trust" to "the most disloyal actual retard that has ever set foot in the Oval Office.".
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Correct, there's some argument to be made that putting cops on camera improves their conduct, which leads to the justification behind body cams. "Live PD" is the only really successful variation that I can think of, and it's slightly more problematic in that it turns specific cops into minor celebrities.
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PhazonLink posted:Well thats nice. But that just means Peter Thiel doesnt care/profit from destroying thedailybeast like he did from Gawker. (Or his giga dollar power level isnt enough to take on thedailybeast) Dan Bongino is already a millionaire and not strapped for cash like Hogan was. That, and the Gawker lawsuit was over invasion of privacy, not defamation. It got tossed because literally nothing in the daily beast article was false.
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azflyboy posted:Apparently Dan Oingoboingo has been off the radio all week, since his "negotiations" with Cumulus over their vaccine mandate aren't going well. His show was online and pretty big enough before he got on regular radio. He also has a show on the Fox nation streaming service and before that was on NRATV. Radio was never his main source of income.
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Twelve by Pies posted:If he doesn't have the spirit of fear then why is he always freaking out about immigrants and trans people? He isn't, it's theater. Immigrants won't negatively impact his life in the least, but he knows what his audience is afraid of.
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Angry_Ed posted:They would sacrifice Hannity to save Tucker, probably Tucker Carlson was a 3rd-tier pundit bouncing around all three cable news networks for 15 years until settling on Fox. And he would have remained doing the occasional guest host roles until Bill O'Reily was ousted for sexual harassment. O'Reily was their previous titan and it's kind of amazing that they would axe him, but the incident is the only reason why Tucker was given a primetime slot. O'Reily's producers and writers didn't leave with him, they just went onto backing Tucker. It's the same show that's been getting millions of viewers 5 nights a week for 20 years now, just with a different talking head. But the purpose is to maintain the illusion that we're seeing and hearing the genuinely-held beliefs of one man, instead of the carefully-workshopped scripts and segments which have been refined by a team of writers to best appeal to an audience of high school equivalents (white) that don't watch the news I can't see them ever sacrificing Hannity. Tucker and Laura Ingram have occasionally said things that cost them sponsors, yet Hannity's managed to avoid any similar issues while still topping his timeslot consistently for over a decade now. His only flaw (from a network perspective) is that his massive audience is geriatric, which aren't worth as much to marketers. But by going into streaming with Fox Nation, they can build up a new bench of future replacements. Which reminds me, remember when Fox Nation originally launched in 2008 as some weird response to Fox blaming the internet for Obama's victory? It was like a blog, except with comment sections filled with racists, which might seem ordinary but was a cutting edge thing for Fox at the time! je1 healthcare fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Nov 6, 2021 |
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