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SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

Iron Crowned posted:

Obama listens to Slayer.

Pffft, NDSU Bison fan. GO HERD!!!

Seriously, though, I wonder what the break-down is between people who recognize and respond to dogwhistle racism and those who just take the talking points at face value due to GO TEAM RED.

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SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

ToxicSlurpee posted:

I think the thing that baffles me the most is people calling it "an act of God" whenever a disaster happens in an area where that disaster happens regularly. A hurricane hitting Florida is not exceptional. A hurricane hitting North Dakota would be.

Hey, gently caress you, guy. We already get 60 mph+ winds for days straight. That stuff starts moving in a circle and all that fracking castoff water is going RIGHT into the atmosphere!

Joking aside, calling anything an Act of God is theologically presumptive and a sin by most counts re: God's name in vain. It also leads people away from Christianity as they now have someone to blame for all their problems and the random things that happen in their lives.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Palin:
I’ve received a beautiful red manual ice auger to drill my own holes in the lake for ice fishing.

That's a switch. Usually it's the base hooting and beating their chests about drilling Palin.

You think it would turn these MRA guys on to find out that it's Palin that does the drilling in that relationship?

SpeakSlow fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Dec 22, 2014

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

Crunch Buttsteak posted:

Eh, the Satanic Panic of the 80's and 90's was a clusterfuck of both secular and religious paranoia. When even state-run psychological organizations were convinced that millions of Satanists were controlling day care centers across America and abusing Our Children, it's hard to lay the blame completely on the people who decided to cynically take advantage of the moral panic. I mean, they're still assholes, but they're like the "ex-terrorists" of today - they realized that there's money to be made taking advantage of a society's fears, and confirming them through telling really scary stories to an already-terrified populace.

The Satanic Panic is a super interesting subject that nobody really talks about anymore, but it's a little outside of the scope of this thread. If you have an afternoon to kill, it's fun to read up on, though!

I remember Mike Warnke.
https://web.archive.org/web/20110604055451/http://www.cornerstonemag.com/features/iss098/sellingsatan.htm

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004
NPR almost killed me today:
http://www.npr.org/2016/10/04/496508348/in-ariz-mormon-working-mom-explains-why-shes-supporting-trump
100% buy-in to the whole "Koran tells them to kill us", taken with NPR calm. Almost drove off the road.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

To be fair, animal armor has to be loose-fitting for the obvious reasons.

alternate take: It's probably just purring.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

Chilichimp posted:

It's possible that being outside of the conservative echo chamber long enough has allowed him to not be such a loving loon.

Conversely, he's just looking for a new audience. Grifters gotta grift.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

Covok posted:

Their propaganda machine is so efficient that the democrats will inadvertently let them get away with it. Just like in 2004 with Kerry.

Can we stop staring a our belly buttons long enough so that we can, with analytic precision, call RWM "propaganda" at this point? Look up "anti-propaganda", as it's literally "fighting lies with facts". Repeating provable facts until it sinks in. One-by-one. That's the way out.

I guess I'm saying I hate clickbait, then. Good to know.

SpeakSlow fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Dec 23, 2016

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

Covok posted:

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/03/us/politics/trump-house-ethics-office.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share&_r=0

Looks like they couldn't spin it and backed off when even the head of their party was mocking them publicly for it.

Edit: On one hand, this is bad because it makes Trump look good, despite the corruption he is guaranteed to do. On the other hand, it's for the best it helped make them back off.

This reads like Trump putting the kibosh on something since he didn't get a cut of the action.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

Radish posted:

The Democrats need to realize that there is no point to bipartisanship since the Republicans can shift their rhetoric 180 degrees instantly and without breaking a sweat. You can't negotiate with that, it's impossible and that well has been thoroughly poisoned for the foreseeable future.

Oh hey, another chance to beat the "it's Propaganda, dummy" tom again.

Anti-Propaganda is the way, folks. Rock solid facts. You don't fight bullshit with more bullshit.

Contribution edit: https://www.amazon.com/Bullshit-Harry-G-Frankfurt/dp/0691122946

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

Extensive Vamping posted:

In a roundabout way this is what I'm addressing. While there is a small amount of original thought from the RWM, Fox News can be boiled down to RNC talking points. Counterpropaganda techniques can be used quite effectively against them because their points are predictable and few in number.

*Someone* needs to obtain or predict the talking points and refute them in short, powerful statements. These counter points are deployed as quickly as possible, perhaps even before the false ones are broadcast. How hard can this be? Do I have to do everything myself ffs?

They telegraph these points in message boards and "alternative" media. Like focus testing. The problem then would be determining how they choose what ultimately floats and what sinks to the bottom to be used later.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

oscarthewilde posted:

'Hunting around for 13-15 year olds, eh? I can't imagine anyone would be comfortable allowing this self-confessed pederast to spend time with their young kids, has anyone thought this through?

Sha'mon.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

I'd say send Hannity to Sex Addicts Anonymous, but no one should be subjected to those stories. Maybe just have him shout them into a cave...

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

Feinne posted:

At some level I think they believe The Law exists as an abstract entity outside of the structures society builds to enforce it.

Ahem...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_law
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_law
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshal_Law_(comics)

SpeakSlow fucked around with this message at 02:07 on May 6, 2017

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004
I want to see cars executed on live television. Provide an object lesson.

Maybe over-parodize it by having a much larger car with comically large tires and shocks run them over.

Like, really over the top poo poo, you know? Teach 'em a lesson.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004
I imagine stock cars with electric engines. Where you go to the dirt track and it sounds like a herd of cattle stampeding across a service road. The crunch of tin cladding and screams of the drivers as the silent Outlaws flip through the air.

I imagine drag strips where the loudest noise the dragsters make is in the burnout box. Where souped-up Teslas quietly whish by empty stands.

I imagine douchebag teenagers having to put waterproof speakers on the outside their cars and program synthesizers to simulate the sound of a terrible, terrible, like really badly done exhaust modification.

gently caress your car culture.

Question for the conspiracy guy. Are there chemtrails coming-up? That's my favorite part of the song. It's like a guitar solo, but with a mouthful of dicks.

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EDIT: Sorry BB, I'll contribute.

Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/24518

Has this book been discussed here? If so, is it worth a read?

SpeakSlow fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Aug 7, 2017

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004
Seconding Roger Ailes as #1 worst misinformation merchant. The man got Nixon on TV. He is responsible for Richard Nixon being....palatable on television for God's sakes. The man is the literal devil incarnate. If Roger Ailes was wrestling he'd be a slightly more sexist early-career Ric Flair. But with way more racism.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004
Running with the uranium distraction as they prepare their 'evidence' about how Manafort, Gates and Webster's Dad were never really True Republicans and were only in it for the money. Eventually, the two will merge by way of eldritch magicks and PRESTO: it's Hillary and Obama's fault.

Same as it ever was.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

Look a little deeper:
https://www.vibe.com/2017/11/joyner-lucas-im-not-racist-video/

EDIT: Beaten like Reginald Denny

LAME SWERVE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reginald_Denny_(actor)

I should just quit.

SpeakSlow fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Dec 1, 2017

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

BiggerBoat posted:


Looking forward to learning today why the FCC's ruling is actually a good thing for everybody, centered around the thesis that it overturns something Obama did and couched in platitudes like "freedom" and "market".

Nice knowing you, internet.

"Increased Options" is my new favorite one of those platitudes.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

Leofish posted:

The one before that, too, the porn one... Porn is insanely racist. Like, I can't even tell what Tucker's point is supposed to be including that one.

Tell it to the BBC.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

Instant Sunrise posted:

If enough remember Hannity's cheerleading of the Bush Administration then they'll remember that he openly supported torture and reneged on his promise to be waterboarded for charity.

I'd like to think that somewhere there exists footage of Hannity actually going through the waterboarding and breaking down into a screaching fit within seconds. Shaking, blubbering, talking crazy, has to be medicated...basically his Fox show but with more streaked makeup.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004
Senator Manning Leaks It All would be excellent TV. I rescind my earlier objection to her electability.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

BiggerBoat posted:

I can also tell exactly what the GOP and Trump are guilty of just by listening to what these assholes accuse Hillary of. Seems like the only question is simply how far does the Russian influence extend. Wouldn't surprise me if it was way way more than Trump.

I'd love for this investigation to fully expose all the fingers the Russian Mafia has in this pie. If at least in the general sense cuz ongoing investigations and missing journos/informants.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

moths posted:

Trump being attested and pleading guilty to high treason would only confirm these shitbrains' paranoid theories about the deep state globalist illuminati. And bolster gun sales.

If that's the smallest price we pay, I'll take it in a second.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004
Seriously, though, how does former Google techbro not know how the internets work?

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004
Frozen is decidedly not feminist propaganda. Unless you think the home-schooled co-dependant model is "real" feminism.

Hell, Elsa is so stuffed in her own head she keeps "accidentally" trying to kill her starry-eyed sister and it's up to a simple male stereotype to save them all from themselves.

And don't get me started at the disturbing undercurrent in Trolls. Glitter farts.

Yes, I have a toddler who watches these movies daily, why do you ask?

SpeakSlow fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Jan 30, 2018

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

Rent-A-Cop posted:

Get your kid some movies about strong women. I suggest Alien and Terminator 2.

Oh, believe me, it's in the post. I'm considering Aliens at about 12 along with Army of Darkness. Evil Dead 2 at 15 and then Dead Alive if she's interested by that point.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

Avirosb posted:

Doesn't Ash have to save several women in Army of Darkness?

Yes, but he's also the quintissential male stereotype and a very good object lesson due to the cheesiness factor. Plus, girls can be evil too.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004
"Let It Go", in context of the movie, is an isolationist screed brought about by rejection. If anything, it's an object lesson.

Pardon my Disney/movie derail, btw. Hannity is a dork.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

No

Noah has made some fuckups but I think his intentions are good he's just still a bit of a neophyte with big shoes to fill.

To be fair, even John Stew-beef took a few years to really settle in.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004
Holy MJ apologia, Batman.

Hey, I'm all about his music but when your argument includes "He's just a guy who liked to sleep in the same bed with children (no pedo)." then that tells me it's more about you needing to reconcile the artist/performer with the man and not simply dividing the two like any sane person would.

It's nearly the literal definition of pedophilia and you're haggling details. Icky. So, so icky.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

Groovelord Neato posted:

you should probably learn to read.

Learn to capitalize and I'll consider it.

All this lower-case typing about a known topic, yet no links to disprove said topic. Solid links and not conspiratorial gibberish.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004
Well, i stepped in it now. Trial was sure a shitshow, and yes that grifter family certainly tried their hardest to score off of Jackson.

Still. In bed with a child not your own because Joe Jackson. Do you listen to yourself when you say that out loud?

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004
As always, Friday is the nest day to release news as it gives us two days of blessed peace before the talking points come out on Monday.

To quote Deep Esch Commode: "Enjoy The Silence".

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004
Had Rush on for about 10 seconds today and he appeared to be making a case for "Why Debt Doesn't Matter". Iirc, when i was a regular listener during Bush II he did the same thing. I didn't find a problem then, but boy howdy do I see it now. Motherfucker just can't stop himself, can he?

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004
Academia. Don't need no highfalutin standards, just hearsay and false attribution. Multiple independant sources are for nerds.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

Cythereal posted:

The point of Southern tea, mind, is not to be hot tea. Unlike places like Britain, it tends to be really goddamn hot in the South and so sweet tea was created as a refreshing cold drink that also keeps you hydrated.

Unsweetened iced tea does the same thing, fwiw.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004
Why are we acting like he didn't stack the audience at the club with Kek thread posters?

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SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004
I, for one, wouldn't mind a day or so derail about just how terrible a person Krauthammer was. Need some dunks lately and don't really care if the recipient is dead due to his sheer anti-human behavior over the years.

Good riddance, Chuck. Get Out.

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