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ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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Michael Corleone posted:

The only celebrity candidate that matters is Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson who has said a few times that he will run for President. Maybe he is kidding but he reminds me a lot of Obama in the way he speaks and carries himself. He would probably run as a moderate in my no-nothing opinion.
He's a registered and ideological Republican, though I'm guessing he's not a hardass on the social issues.

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ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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Jesus, he looks like Adrian Grenier and Susan Sarandon had a kid and then sent him to private school his whole life.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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SedanChair posted:

Fat-based attacks on Christie will backfire.
You couldn't just say "bounce back" could you?

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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Petey posted:

The NYT hit piece on Booker today was pretty harsh. Ouch.
And the HP takedown of the author, via Wonkette, isn't so bad either:

http://wonkette.com/493494/new-york-times-cory-booker-takedown-just-got-a-lot-more-embarrassing-for-the-new-york-times

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New York Times Cory Booker Takedown Just Got A Lot More Embarrassing For The New York Times

Over the weekend, we told you about a New York Times hit piece on Tall Column of Chocolate Love Cory Booker, and how reporter Kate Zernike did not seem to be doing herself any favors by ending it with a steaming dump of DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM? Now, thanks to HuffPo, we are almost in awe of Zernike and her proud cuntiness. Let’s review: She said WAAH there is still poverty in Newark! She said HISS Cory Booker raised taxes while also cutting spending! She said BLARGLE Cory Booker spends all his time in New York hobnobbing with Richard Branson instead of in his community! So. About that.

Here is how Zernike ended her journalism:

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He invited a reporter to see the system in action. He then called to apologize that he could not be there: “I’m in and out of New York all day.”
Instead, his staff demonstrated the system. Mr. Booker was on his way to host a reading at a bookstore on the Upper West Side, filmed by CNN. He then spoke at a benefit at Cipriani and attended a movie premiere at Google’s New York headquarters. Afterward, he announced on Twitter, “I sat on a panel with Richard Branson.”
Don’t freak, but it seems Kate Zernike might have been leaving something out?

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The Upper West Side reading — covered by C-SPAN, not CNN — was for a book on teen homelessness that he wrote the forward to and which features a Newark youth. Booker said he and Kevin Ryan, the book’s author, have raised more than $200,000 for non-profit charity Covenant House “and have leveraged the book to raise awareness and action on a too often overlooked issue.”
What about that doubtless glittering Cipriani gala, which probably had lobsters stuffed with caviar to feed all the unhinging alien jaws of the Real Housewives of New York City, right?

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The Cipriani benefit was for children’s charity K.I.D.S. (Kids In Distressed Situations). “They were giving an award to Newark Now, a nonprofit I founded, and have raised over $150,000 worth of clothes and toys for deserving Newark kids and families during the winter and holiday season,” Booker said, noting that such aid is especially needed following Hurricane Sandy.
But what about the movie premiere, where Cory Booker starfucked Richard Branson till he couldn’t sit down?

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The “movie premiere” at Google’s New York headquarters was for “Breaking the Taboo,” a film about the failed drug war. Zernike quoted only the first part of Booker’s tweet, which read: “Sat on a panel with @RichardBranson last night for the premiere of this film about the failure of the war on drugs.“
What does Kate Zernike have to say for herself, HuffPo?

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In an email, Zernike said the article explained why Booker was in New York City and is “not sure why including the name of the book (for the reading) or the group (for the benefit) or the film and panel (for the premiere) would have added much context.”
Let’s play the Kate Zernike Game! “@CoryBooker: In the Dominican section, delivering antibiotics for kids with strep throat! DM me!”

Kate Zernike: “Cory Booker went to the Dominican Republic with a baggie full of drugs.”

Also, yeah, Newark led the nation in reducing crime under Booker, and its fire response time is under the national average. Zernike manages to present those both as bad things.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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http://news.yahoo.com/mitts-son-says-never-wanted-president-anyway-150612736.html

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“He wanted to be president less than anyone I’ve met in my life. He had no desire to . . . run,” said Tagg, who worked with his mother, Ann, to persuade his father to seek the presidency. “If he could have found someone else to take his place . . . he would have been ecstatic to step aside.

I know this isn't hot of the presses, but cut me some slack, it's the holidays here too. Anyway, what I took from this is that we haven't seen the last of Romneys who are determined to achieve what their fathers couldn't.

\/\/\/ Rom-Paul.

ReindeerF fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Dec 24, 2012

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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I don't think it's a huge deal for national leaders, but I'm curious if you'd send a female a commander into the depths of Afghanistan to interact with a local council? At the national level might matters. No country's going to be arrogant enough to ignore Hillary just because she's got breasts and a vagina, but when you get down to the provincial level these things actually are considerations and it's not racist, sexist or anything else to take a foreign culture into account. I know that's not what's being discussed specifically here and the guy's post reeked of a troll, but I get the impression a lot of folks just assume that projecting Western values onto the rest of the world because we're de facto correct works and, let me tell you from personal experience, it doesn't.

EDIT: My point is that it feels good and righteous to thump chests and say "Our values are universal and inviolable" but depending on the situation and the level of power involved not everyone may agree.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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These hearings are pretty typical, except for the part where Clinton actually doesn't take any poo poo, which I'm enjoying. McCain's diatribe in particular was predictably and hilariously stupid. I enjoyed Durbin's crack about WMD, but otherwise the whole yuk-yuk setup game our legislature plays is so embarrassing compared to something like PM Questions. Hillary's one of the only people in the room who could obviously hold her own on PM Questions.

EDIT: And Rand Paul enters the fray with his smartest-guy-in-the-room-who-is-obviously-not-that-smart routine and goes for the jugular. Urgh, too painful to watch that smarmy prick.

ReindeerF fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Jan 23, 2013

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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Joementum posted:

There were rumors in 2008 that Bill was seeing other people and that this would have come out in a general election.
I kind of hate carrying on about it, but the whole "gently caress Force One" aspect made for some hysterical copy, I have to admit. I heard that group had a falling out sometime after that, but it could've just been rumor.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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Sir Kodiak posted:

Prior to joining the Obama White House, Rahm Emanuel was closer to the Clintons than he was to Obama. He would have likely ended up a senior adviser either way.
He was in the Clinton camp until sometime during the primaries - maybe the beginning? I forget exactly when. I recall this because I was bitching about not sending the same group of Clintonite DLC types to DC again and pointing to Rahm as an example. Then he joined Obama's campaign and Obama went to DC and he turned out to be pretty much exactly a new kind of DLC type. I gave up on American Presidential politics entirely. The end.

So, yeah, Rahm was playing the fairweather game and as soon as it was clear to him which horse had a better shot, he switched from Clintonite allegiance mode to Chicago allegiance mode, all of which are disguises for Rahm allegiance mode.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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greatn posted:

His biggest mistakes being voting for the Iraq war, and flubbing the Thomas confirmation hearings when he was not ready to head that committee yet.
The bankruptcy bill was a drat-near unforgivable sin. I've always had a soft spot for Joe just as a personality and been a supporter of him among the field of candidates, but he was full-throated for it and that was impossible to swallow. As someone said above, on many (most? all?) things, he'd be more of the same. I think his foreign policy approach is probably closest to the best thing about him. I know he voted for Iraq, but he wouldn't have started the war and I often find his thoughts on foreign policy moderate and informed for a mainstream American politician.

Also, for some reason I've never identified, Taibbi absolutely loathes him. I'd be very interested to see his full take on why as he's done the Boys On The Bus routine through at least one Biden run.

monoceros4 posted:

Flavor Aid.
Yeah, but nobody remembers that distinction, heh.

Joementum posted:

Any of the dozen people in this story could have done something about this, but nope. We get a Cory Booker Heroically Rescues Freezing Dog story instead.
I saw this go down from my Twitterdome and was rolling my eyes as well. I mean good on Cory I guess, I'm not particularly concerned about the event, but the coverage and the reaction from everyone was ridiculous. It's probably best that Booker runs for Senator before people start tweeting poo poo like, "Hey Mayor, there's someone raping my wife, are you gonna call 911 or what?" or "WTF mayor, my neighbor's house is burnin and u aint did poo poo get down here and fix this poo poo!!!"

ReindeerF fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Jan 25, 2013

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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Sinestro posted:

Brian Schweitzer is the guy we want: about as progressive as a national candidate can realistically be, folksy charm, and pretty electable.
Biden/Schweitzer '16: Drivin' it like we stole it!

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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Joementum posted:

It also begs the question: why the gently caress do they still do the response live?
I notice everyone keeps saying response, but it's my recollection that they purposely changed the name this year to something else, like the Republican Address On The State Of The Nation or whatever. Not that it makes any difference in terms of what people think, but it's worth noting that they clearly have changed tactics.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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Joementum posted:

I got called silly for thinking that Rahm would toy with 2016 back in the election threads (and you'll note he's been listed as a potential candidate in the OP of this thread since the start), but he's really the nightmare scenario candidate for the progressive left.
He's also the nightmare scenario candidate for Rahm Emanuel.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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Rahm running nationally is like when Terry McAuliffe ran for Governor in Virginia. No one knows or cares who the gently caress he is outside of the political animals and his personality is grating as gently caress to most of the people he'd be running with. I assume the difference is that Rahm knows that his only constituency is the party machine in Chicago and the party machine in DC. I still can't believe that McAuliffe is going to run again (or that he might win, ugh).

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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mcmagic posted:

He better win. Do you know the level of batshit he's running against?
Yeah, that's why it's a situation so unbelievable that he might actually win. I mean it's like imagining a situation where the Democrats won so many of these recent Senate seats. Their candidate sucked rear end, but they managed to pull it out because A) they kept their side of the field clear and B) the GOP candidate was unbelievably horrible. Terry is a horrible candidate, but he's unopposed on his side and he's running against Christine O'Donnell/Todd Akin levels of stupid.

I really, strongly dislike Terry McAuliffe and cannot believe that this is where Virginia is. At least in Texas our moron population of job-seeking migrants from Ohio, Michigan, Louisiana, New Mexico and all over the country screwed up an election where they had a decent choice in Houston's former mayor, Bill White. In Virginia you've got the slimiest Democratic bagman in recent memory running against a guy who would make Bill O'Reilly say, "Hey, wait a minute pal..." I feel for the educated populace who actually have a soul there.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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greatn posted:

I mean, he has a literal branding iron he uses to veto bills, and people think that is a cool awesome thing to do and not a parody? Riding around saying yee haw with a bolo tie on showing off his gun collection, why should that impress anyone?
Because he does it in Arabic!

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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I think his was the last campaign that Sirota worked on and he's pretty sincerely lefty, so much so that he seems to mainly sit on the fringes these days lobbing spitballs between opinion pieces. I'd be interested to see what he thinks of the Governor's record since, at the time, he was really high on Schweitzer.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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Cheekio posted:

Warren presses Bernanke on 'Too Big To Fail':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYP4NVdWVPI
It's amazing that someone's even asking the questions other than Sanders. Thank God.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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Isn't that mostly about him having a big pissypants fight with Rachel Maddow? She really ridiculed the poo poo out of him beyond her usual level as I recall and made a special point out of doing entire long segments that were all basically, "This guy is an incompetent moron and should be shitcanned."

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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I always figure when the topic of marriage comes up Hillary just doesn't want to comment because any time the words "Clinton" and "Marriage" appear in the same sentence a billion subtle references or wisecracks are launched, often in the same editorials or articles.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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I don't watch it at all and am barely even aware of its existence, but it's Downton Abbey, not Downtown Abbey. The Abbey is in the countryside, not in downtown anything - I don't even think downtown existed yet as a concept back then. This was the newly introduced "should of" or "for all intensive purposes" or "tow the line" of 2012, so let's not drag it into 2013. Downtown Abby sounds like a Fox drama targeted at single women in their 30s.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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Peter King is your wacky, Yankee uncle with those common sense opinions. I'd be surprised if he's not more popular in rust belt and corncob states. I mean he's too big an idiot to ever go anywhere beyond his current post, but I imagine rooms full of old and/or working class Northerners going, "He's right ya know" every time he talks. He's the perfect modern day blue collar Yankee populist and he's basically independent in terms of beliefs in much the same way O'Reilly is, he just happens to be a Republican because of prevailing political winds. Any moderately dumb and populist political party playing off of social conservative anger would be just fine for him.

When he retires, he should go to work as some kind of hockey or football commentator.

EDIT: Independent in strictly partisan terms, since I know a bunch of nuance-free people are going to misinterpret that. King would sell out the GOP tomorrow if he found another donor base who would let him support the IRA, bash Muslim turrists and call people perverts and dirty hippies. He's like a Yankee Dixiecrat.

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ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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Cemetry Gator posted:

Having God's endorsement has seriously got to be the least meaningful thing ever. He's very good about choosing losers.
He's the only Jewish Republican more prominent than Lieberman (I!!!) these days, so they have to pay their respects.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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I recall him testing the waters on this in 2012 with the whole "what a snob" angle he would pull about working class people. I mean Santorum's a tone deaf idiot and he'll never make it work, but someone like Christie looks and sounds the blue collar hero part and probably could make it work.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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This came across my podcasts today r last night:

http://onpoint.wbur.org/2013/08/06/rand-paul

It's John Harwood hosting On Point (Tom Ashbrook's call-in show) about libertarianism and the last segment is an interview with Rand Paul. Harwood really was baiting him, frankly, from the beginning with like all the questions being "So, what does this person think of you?" and "How are you different from your dad?" It's totally understandable, but a bit more substance would have laid the trap for the inevitable, "So, are you a racist?" part of the interview, which is where Paul goes off.

After doing the thing where he turns the tables on the host and acts all pissy, he keeps dragging it up. A Caller calls in and asks why people are only interested in smearing others and Paul uses it to whack Harwood around all over again. That part's all pretty entertaining, but the best part is that by the end he has his hackles up so strong that when he gets asked if libertarians wouldn't want to get rid of programs like social security and medicare he completely denies it, says the host is basically making things up and goes through the entire charade twice. I actually went back and listened twice because it was like :lol: The last honest libertarian, Rand Paul, who has no idea where John Harwood would get the idea that libertarians are against social welfare programs.

I forget where the interview gets interesting, but it felt like probably the last 8-10 minutes of the program maybe.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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I agree with your underlying point, but Cruz is intelligent in cognitive terms. His head is full of bad knowledge and he comes to all kinds of stupid conclusions, but I can assure you that he is not technically a dumb man. That's sort of what makes him dangerous. With some teabagger like Bachmann or Gohmert or whatever you know you're dealing with a mouth-breathing idiot, but with guys like Paul or Cruz you're in a bit more danger because they're smart enough to carry out complex behaviors and to handle technical tasks like running an organization.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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That's always my biggest objection. If we're down to where it's just legacy legacy legacy then we are Europe, but without all the socialist goodies. If we're going to just keep electing a stream of the same names then at least can we have healthcare? On the flip side, Hillary herself has grown on me quite a bit. I still don't like a lot of her politics, but don't like a lot of 99% of Democrats' politics. I do like her, personally, much more than I used to.

Moyers '16!

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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How the gently caress did Norm Mineta not end up with a new appointment? He's like the Shimon Peres of the US government.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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crowfeathers posted:

Julian Castro.
Is Castro worth a poo poo? I ask that honestly, I really know nothing about the guy. Seemed like an okay speech, but I didn't form an impression of him and I haven't been around to watch him govern. He is, inevitably, judged by his predecessor, Henry Cisneros, the same way Rick Perry is judged by George Bush and so on. Cisneros actually seemed like a really competent guy, but had a personal fuckup that cost him. That doesn't mean he would've been a bad national politician, but we never found out.

What's Castro like day to day? Pretty good guy?

EDIT: His smile really freaks me out in the way Michele Bachmann's eyes do, but that's not a defining trait politically, heh.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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Adar posted:

I am aware of all of that but don't think Noted Old Person Joe Biden or anyone else on this list has been buying likes in the last six years.

(watch this space when that number becomes 10,580,000 in roughly 18 months)
Yeah, I dunno if the kind of love Biden has engendered translates to political success for a Presidential run, but he is genuinely liked by a lot of people who didn't know him before. He's easily the best posed to pick up the Reagan Democrat crowd.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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Joementum posted:

Gennifer Flowers has endorsed Hillary Clinton for President. There are some slightly :nws: pixelated images of Gennifer at that link and also it's The Daily Mail, so click at your own risk. Oh also, Hillary is bi and probably having a relationship with Huma, according to Ms. Flowers.
Haha, yeah, they're LESBIANS. RUN!

Flowers is the other gift that keeps on giving. I met her once in New Orleans, she used to run her own cabaret / lounge bar there out of an old converted whorehouse. Seemed nice enough and the whole bar experience was fun, she'd schmooze with everyone after the show. She was like something out of Midnight In The Garden Of Good And Evil. I wonder what she's up to now other than making stories for the Daily Mail?

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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Captain_Maclaine posted:

not for nothing was the Clinton-era push for UHC called Hillarycare at the time.
Ah, that'd slipped my mind. I remembered it being hung around her neck and her being the spokesperson and all, but I forgot how they all called it Hillarycare and spent endless amounts of time and money trying to brand it that.

Obama actually is smarter about this kind of thing, probably for obvious reasons. He understood instinctively that the best way to defeat a label is to wear it, so as soon as they put down Obamacare he picked it up and started using it. Clever guy, whether you like him or not. His got passed, but that has more to do with his staff not being a bunch of loving rubes. Snuffleupagus and friends fumbled the Clinton transition like nobody's business, launching gays in the military accidentally out of the gate. They were horrible at PR, which is how Dick Morris ended up in the job. If Clinton had started with Gergen and Morris he might've gotten Hillarycare out the door quicker and more successfully. On the other hand, if he'd started with Gergen and Morris they might have triangulated him away from it to start with.

ReindeerF fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Sep 24, 2013

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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That's true. I hosed up the timeline, though I'm not sure about the 2012 thing - I swear I can recall him joking about it at a WHCD earlier than the election season. It did take him a while to pick it up, but he eventually did, something Bill & Hillary never would have done I don't think.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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DynamicSloth posted:

Sudden large shifts in trading volumes that weren't explainable by an external event (like a lovely debate performance) were transparently seen as attempts to manipulate Intrade at the time. It's not like this schmuck bought much bang for his buck, daring people to take his 4 million without successfully preventing Intrade from predicting 290 electoral college votes for Obama.
Yeah, it's true. Deep pocketed fish sits down at your table, not revolutionary, even if he has an ulterior motive. End result doesn't change.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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Has anyone else noticed the smart people glasses he's been rocking more and more publicly lately? He looks like a loving startup CEO half the times I see him photographed these days. Sweaters, dark jeans, Buddy Holly hipster glasses.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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All he needs is a blazer and an Isuzu Pup.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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In 2016 news, the renowned director if No End In Sight and Inside Job was forced to quit a Clinton documentary because the Washington money machine surrounding the Clintons and others circled the wagons and made his job impossible:

http://news.yahoo.com/cnn-scraps-hillary-clinton-documentary-after-the-director-drops-out-144058250.html

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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I totally agree, smart political players playing the media refs to avoid any truth coming out. Charles Ferguson isn't Adam Curtis, but you put him in any situation versus a bunch of established political dynastic types and I trust him 1000x more, whether that's Bushes, Obamas, Clintons, Romneys, Reagans, you name it.

I guess one content-full thing to come out of this is that you now know she's going to run 100% for sure in 2016, because a full court press against a respected documentarian would've seemed out of place just as a casual CYA maneuver. Hillary is 45!

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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Sir Tonk posted:

Does he have a book coming out in 2016?
No, but he's releasing his own line of bespoke messenger bags and eyewear, under the new brand Niggerhead, for the discerning paleoconservative.

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ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

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The Democrats should run Jeb Bush just to see what happens. "Hey, man, we believe about 90% of the same poo poo, but we bet you'll vote against this guy even though he's from your party!" America's government is basically just a bunch of people trolling one another anymore anyway. Why not?

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