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The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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Good God the A+ 901 is an insipid test. Took it this morning and man a good 80% of the exam was completely irrelevant to my helpdesk/junior sysadmin job. When the gently caress am I ever going to be crimping cat6 by hand??

Took it mostly cold and passed just fine fortunately. Might study a bit harder for the 902 if its test asks similarly inane questions.

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The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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Kashuno posted:

I've crimped quite a few cables in my day.

If the 902 is anything like the 80s was, it'll be easier for you than the 901. The troubleshooting stuff is what people say is "harder" but that's because it's not rote memorization

Yeah the 902 was easy in comparison. Way fewer questions I was unsure on.

The Sims were a tad more difficult than the 901, but not by much and only because they restricted what I'd typically use to troubleshoot and disabled the switch list for commands. Which is fine, whatever, good to know, but while the information relating to how systems work and troubleshooting principles are all fine, the rote memorization was annoying as all hell.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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MrBigglesworth posted:

If you want to work on networks you by God better loving drat well learn your color order!

Nothing about color order was actually in the book or on the test, though I think I've had the importance of knowing your CAT6 suitably impressed upon me :v:

In any event, A+ is done. Already have a job so I'll wait till I've been there long enough for them to pay for certs before doing my Network and Security+. After that, CCNA or the various Microsoft certs I think.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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Peachfart posted:

I don't envy anyone who has to beta a CompTIA test. Other than Sec+, their tests are focused on memorizing lots of pointless garbage(and even Sec+ has pointless stuff on it). I can only imagine how bad the beta is.

Warchalking.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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So my boss and I had a meeting today. Long story short, he wants me to bring to him a list of certs/courses I want to take, and my employer will cover them.

While I've actually been working on a lot of really interesting stuff - helpdesk is maybe half my job with the rest being SCCM and infrastructure poo poo... I only have my A+, and my networking and storage fundamentals are pretty weak.

So, I guess what I'm asking, what are some decent courses, if any exist, for Network+/ICDN1 that are relatively inexpensive? Or would it be better to buy a good workbook and study of that instead? I'm not footing the bill either way, but there's no official training budget yet and I don't want to just throw a thousand dollar bill at my boss :v:

Security+ I'm just gonna toss on there for completion's sake, though is there a good workbook for that so I can memorize more inane poo poo like mantraps and warchalking :suicide:

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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Colostomy Bag posted:

SCCM is no joke, installing that a few years back in native mode was a complicated mess.

When you say infrastructure what exactly do you mean?

You highlighted your weak points and have the forethought to know not to drop a $1,000 PO on the desk. (Here's the thing, $1K is nothing in this fleecing game for a course.)

What are your interests? Start small and pick something that you find interesting and clicks in your head.

Give us a few more details and we can direct a little better response based on past experiences and being on both sides of the desk.

Sorry this took so long for me to get back to!

I do internal IT for an org of about 800, about 60% macs 40% PCs. My job is about 50% helpdesk - people come to me when their computer breaks, or they need help with a zoom presentation, or whatever. Then there's newhires, AD unlocking and password resets, and a weekly action on found security threats. Also dealing with vendors, cell phones, purchasing, the like.

The more interesting stuff is the other half of my job. While I didn't set up the SCCM server from scratch, I'm the point woman for SCCM administration. So for example, I'm the one scripting MDT task sequences and setting up OSD, writing packages and software deployment, WSUS patch management, integration of USMT, et cetera. I also focus pretty heavily on security, ranging from GPOs to analysis of Darktrace logs and subsequent reporting, employee interviews or investigations. I also own the deployment and administration of our new antivirus. Which is poo poo, I used powershell to basically build an automated weekly report from scratch since there wasn't any built in reporting or auditing. I've been asked to write a deficiency report as a result. I've also done some minor work with managing shares and storage, but not anything to write home about.

I'm 22 and I've worked in IT for a grand total of 9 months, including an internship, all at my current org. I'm entirely self taught from learning on the job, and 3/4ths of a Political Science degree.

There's a few things I want to aim for. My understanding of networking fundamentals is patchy, pun not intended. While I have a basic understanding of how networks work, I don't know enough to really flourish in this field. I'm very interested in security in particular, but I also kinda want to learn more about basic server administration and setup, and obviously I need to work on my understanding of networking. My boss also recommended I look into storage as well. I also ordered the powershell in a month of lunches book to work on my scripting.

so, tldr:

I'm very much a generalist
I don't know networks as well as I should
I'm very interested and have done a lot of work with security
I'm also interested in building and maintaining our server infrastrastructure, but don't have any hands on experience.
I am, essentially, the SCCM administrator for my organization.


My initial thoughts were to actually study/take a course for the N+ or the ICND1, and then just buy the textbook and blow through the Security+, which everyone and their mother says is a huge joke.

The Iron Rose fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Jan 16, 2018

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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guys it's the USAF

The bar is set at not raping japanese schoolgirls or trading intel for hookers and kickbacks

I can't think of a similar Army scandal off the top of my head. Not cutting the parachute straps on, what was it, an MRAP? The point is that technical proficiency is gravy, and being able to qualify for a TS/SCI and walk in a straight line is closer to the expectations being set here.

The Iron Rose fucked around with this message at 14:19 on Jun 26, 2018

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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Space Racist posted:

Well that makes my life a hell of a lot easier. I was planning this weekend to schedule the AZ-100 for late April. :toot:

The AZ-101 seemed to have a lot less study material out there than the 100 so it did seem a little more seat-of-your-pants.

Yeah, may as well get the test done before may now. Convenient timing if nothing else.

Any recommended resources? I've done a lot of o365/azure AD stuff but mostly heading into this fresh.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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Passed my AWS Certified Solutions Architect Associate today! Took about a month to prepare with no prior AWS experience, studying around 4-8 hours a day with a couple of my own projects that I was interested in mixed in.

I used the ACloudGuru course that everyone and their mother recommends, and it lives up to the reputation! Very engaging, fantastic instructor, and holy cow I learned a ton.

The practice exams were utterly dreadful though, I gotta say. They used outdated services and terminology that haven't been around in a few years, included completely irrelevant questions, and I even noticed one question that was identical between the two practice exams but had different answers on each one! Worse, explanations for the questions were, by and large, utterly unhelpful.

I would heartily recommend this set of practice questions to help you prepare as well. Mostly for extensive, in depth analysis of every single question and answer, complete with diagrams, links to external tutorials, and multi-paragraph long explanations for pretty much every single question. It's an incredibly valuable resource and I heartily recommend it.

I actually failed the exam the first time around by 1 question, which tbf makes sense when you don't sleep and spend the whole night cramming. Second time around was way easier.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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BaseballPCHiker posted:

Any tips on the AWS Certified Solutions Architect exam? I'm scheduled to take it in 2 weeks.

My day to day job is in networking, so I feel pretty good about VPC setups, NAT instances/gateways, etc but the rest of the platform is completely new to me and I've read a lot of conflicting information about what I do and don't need to commit to memory. For example do I need to memorize all of the different EC2 types? Or just no the general compute/memory/GPU platforms?

It has definitely been a fun exam to study for I will say that. I've enjoyed creating little EC2 instances to play around with in the free tier.

Have some notes from when I took the exam. It's less memorization - beyond service names - and more scenario questions. I'd highly highly recommend doing as many practice tests as you can - Udemy has a bunch for cheap. Reread every question so you don't miss something small and stupid.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/1UxWmvwPcHG2X3uKriAX7ipelnvjixsb8/edit?usp=docslist_api&filetype=msword


Meanwhile I'm taking my okta professional cert next weekend. Anyone taken it?

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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Irritated Goat posted:

I need to get some advice as I'm starting to lose direction\doubt myself.

I recently asked for some advice from some IT people on a direction to go for myself. I said I enjoyed Active Directory, Powershell, general server work, best practices for security and ease of users getting to things smoothly and was recommended Identity Engineer. Learn SAML, Azure, OAuth, etc. The problem is, I have 0 idea where to start or if watching videos on Youtube for stuff like SAML and then taking an Azure cert for getting past HR filter. :shrug: I know I want to get out of helpdesk and I liked managing O365\Azure AD a while back so I'm a little lost. Which Azure cert? Should I tweak it and learn more virtualization\cloud junk? Is over 10+ years of Helpdesk just completely ruined me?

Oracle mini webseries on oauth 2.0 that i'm going through

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEysfgIbqlg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZX7554l8hY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVCzv50BslE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CHpnTysVOo

everyone's moving to the cloud, so cloud certs are a great place to start. don't be married to Azure either, AWS and GCP both have excellent cert paths that don't involve dealing with azure's microsoft-y ish and identity management principles are pretty consistent across cloud/onprem and cloud providers individually.

also being a self starter about this won't hurt. you're losing direction? that's fine, just so long as you're learning. watch those random youtube videos.


also do a lot of home lab stuff. build an IM system with riot.io. create your own VPN tunnel and bastion-hosts. start running your own personal DNS resolver with a pihole and unbound in the cloud. looking like someone who is ambitious and a self starter is often more important than years under your belt or certifications.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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Ups_rail posted:

I feel sheepish asking but my friends husband, (who has mental health issues) is going back to school and was talking about getting certs. I asked him a few questions about the certs and felt he didnt really understand (or maybe was it was just bad communication on both our parts).

Whats the difference between

Comptia linux+

and

Comptia network +

Linux+ tests basic Linux commands - how to set permissions and how to use bash. It's probably great foundational knowledge honestly but I wouldn't call it a useful certification.


Network+ tests your understanding of computer networking and architecture. This is a very useful certification and probably the only valuable cert comptia has ever made.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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I'm writing my GCP associate cloud engineer exam next week. Any tips?

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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Passed my GCP Associate Cloud Engineer cert today! Was a pretty easy exam and I finished in about 15 minutes with minimal review. Learning kubernetes was super fun!

I only had 37 pages of notes for this one instead of like 80 for AWS so I'm definitely learning something :v: Mostly k8s stuff, not super comprehensive.

Link for anyone interested: https://1drv.ms/w/s!Avct7YQ-auOFgYRS9l4SXcLPDJGgBA

Big thanks again to the acloudguru course for this.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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Certs are great because as a woman I need to demonstrate knowledge above and beyond my male colleagues in order to be taken seriously, and I personally love the way they effectively package up a subject for easyl, well defined learning.

Also I've more than doubled my salary in the past four years from starting my career only a bit above minimum wage to making significantly more than that today. Certs help quite a lot!

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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air- posted:

Where does that GCP Associate cert falls vs doing CKA?

Taking AWS SA associate tomorrow and I've put most of my time into Linux Academy (mostly for the labs) and Udemy courses - Stephane Maarek is a top notch teacher and the Jon Bonso practice tests are supposedly harder than the real thing

Anyways, will also look through your AWS notes! Thanks :yaycloud:

Good luck! here's the most up to date version of my AWS notes:
https://1drv.ms/w/s!Avct7YQ-auOFgYNXMsgwb4LvGb_1hg?e=0wrba2

Knowing your main services at a high level is enough to pass SA Associate. It wasn't a super hard exam other than the dozens of different services you need to know.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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22 Eargesplitten posted:

How useful would an AWS SA Associate be if my Linux skills are limited to grep/cat/ping/ssh? I've just been given a sign that I should stop being lazy and start studying again, but I'm not sure how valuable just having the cert is with what's otherwise pretty junior admin levels of experience.

You don’t need anything other than grep, cat, ping and ssh to do most cloud stuff.


It is extraordinarily valuable because studying for it and achieving it means you are no longer a junior admin in terms of experience.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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22 Eargesplitten posted:

Thanks, currently about an hour of studying done after coming back a few chapters in. I probably need to refresh myself on some of it.

My current place of employment only has one AWS guy, so maybe I'll be able to move into that department. If not, time to do the job hop.

How many hours of study did it take everyone here? Are there any good projects to do after taking the acloudguru course to get some practice? I'm in the middle of setting up Algo already.

A month. My pet project was putting a pihole in the cloud and making it highly available. Honestly, you can find a million things to do. Do whatever holds your interest.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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22 Eargesplitten posted:

Thanks. Hopefully I'll be able to get it done a bit faster, I've got like four hours per day at work where I'm not actually doing any work on average, just waiting for alerts to come in.

Maybe I can try setting up a VPN ending at a device that I'll hook up to my 3d printer when I finally get one, the Algo setup is following a guide because I don't want to have to gently caress around with it if I mess up permissions.

You can definitely do it faster especially if you’re studying 4 hours a day. I studied several hours a day but took plenty of breaks. There’s nothing very complicated but there is a lot of material you’ll to know. I posted a bunch of notes last page that I’d recommend you check out.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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22 Eargesplitten posted:

Yeah, I'm going to check that out. I really appreciate that, I'm terrible at taking notes. It seems like whenever I try I end up getting the unimportant stuff and while I'm writing down the notes I end up missing the important stuff.

I think I missed my chance to take the 2019 exam so I'm going to have to try to figure out what's new for the 2020, IIRC you passed the exam in July (not stalking, just remember what else was going on in my life when I read your testimonial and bought the acloudguru course) so I'll need to update for new material.

nothing much has changed between 2019 and 2020, networking's still the same, EC2s are still the same, etc. I don't think there's any major hot new services that would be on the Associate SA exam in the last six months, but either way the ACloudGuru courses are new for 2020.

In general with any exam, I find that taking notes was a massive help for me in understanding and comprehending the material. If you're not sure whether something is important or not, write it down anyways! the act of writing something down on paper does more to write the content into our brains than listening or watching can ever do. Doing is always going to be better than passively consuming, which is why everyone and their mother gives you projects alongside the course material.

Jinnigan posted:

I've been looking into getting an A+ certificate but the one thing I have been getting stuck on is: how do you actually take a goddamn test? I understand that I need to spend ~$250 on a voucher, but then... is it an online test? Do I have to find a scheduled in-person test somewhere? What's the deal? Google just pulls up pages and pages of classes and people trying to bilk me out of money.

buy a voucher, redeem it for a seat, and you'll take the test in person at a testing center, I think Pearson VUE runs most of them.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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Writing the GCP professional cloud architect exam tomorrow. Any advice? Particularly re case studies.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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Vintimus Prime posted:

Dang just saw this. I took the test back in February and passed. How did you do?

I postponed it till the end of the month actually! I was only getting around 70% in my practice tests which convinced me that a week of prep would not in fact cut it.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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You don’t need to know instance types. You can find practice exams for a tenner on udemy and they’re only moderately good. They tend to the slightly out of date. Still, it’s good to know the format.

The Iron Rose fucked around with this message at 01:54 on Jun 8, 2020

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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Passed my GCP professional cloud architect exam! Took about 30 minutes and the remote proctor was simultaneously a bit of a pain while also weirdly charming. Buddy asked me to turn my classical music down though :(

On a that note Zotix, the cloud is how I got into Linux. Looooots of Linux servers for webapps. Honestly the distro doesn’t particularly matter to me for that reason, except if you’re using selinux I guess. I’m mostly used to CentOS these days for that reason, but I don’t think I’d use it for a desktop environment.


don’t be too wedded to one distro vs another, use whatever fits your given usecase best. They’re not completely interchangeable, but outside of apt-get vs yum and selinux, does anyone really care*?


*excluding alpine for containers and other specific use cases. Genuine question though, they’re all just a shell to me :p

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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Vintimus Prime posted:

Congratulations on the pass! I’m looking at the networking cert to tackle next myself.

Same as it happens! I’ve booked it for early September. Anyone done the exam and have any tips?

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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freezingprocess posted:

About to land my first job in IT. It is with the DoD.

I never wanted to be part of the military industrial complex.

However, bills aren't going to be paid with a clear conscious.

All with just an A+ cert and and AS from a community college.

Any thoughts?

better than working for facebook

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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Don’t bother with the cloud practitioner certs. They are very general and it’s a bit of a waste of money. the associate cloud engineer certs are a great place to start and will actually get you cloud jobs. You’ve been a sysadmin long enough you don’t need to do the warmup certs.


As for which one, well, you can’t go wrong with AWS. But just pick one, the skills are broadly transferable.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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Passed my GCP Professional Cloud Network Engineer certification today! Definitely overstudied, the exam was a breeze and I literally finished in 10 minutes.


to my surprise, a big part of that was because the udemy practice exam set I purchased a few hours before for $20 had 70% of the exact questions and answers. So I think I bought a brain dump by accident lmao.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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Hughmoris posted:

Passed the Microsoft DP-900 Azure Data Fundamentals this morning. :woop:

*I used the Pearson VUE online proctoring without a hitch.

ugh lucky you lmao. Had to reconnect twice cuz my video was hosed up.


I’m also now worrying that I’ve flagged an anti cheat thing because I finished the exam so quickly. It was an easy exam! I was shook!

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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Boba Pearl posted:

How much do you guys make a year with these certs those who want to share? (Also general area.)

I'll start, I have Comptia A+, 5 years of experience with the title "Customer Service Rep 4" and an Associates, and I got an offer for Support Specialist position in Fremont for 83k after benefits and everything else.

E: GlassDoor says they've offered people up to 110k so I also want to know if I should try and negotiate for higher, or just take the offer.

oh I forgot to share this

AWS Solutions Architect Associate
GCP Associate Cloud Engineer
GCP Professional Cloud Architect
GCP Professional Network Engineer (once I get the drat email from Google anyways!)
a recently expired A+ that I don’t put on my resume

Salary is 123k CAD, which kinda sucks these days. new jobs are opening their negotiations at 150k Canadian so it’s probably time for me to :yotj:. Which I don’t really want to do, because I like my job, my managers, and it’s relatively low effort. Maybe in 2022.

In other words take that 83k USD Support Job and run with it because it’s almost as much as I’m making now for what I imagine is much more senior work.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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Boba Pearl posted:

Is glass door legit? I feel like I'm either misunderstanding the job requirements, or glassdoor is just bullshitting about numbers.

levels.fyi is pretty good ime

Don’t trust the salary ranges on indeed, glassdoor, etc. Or at least add an extra 20-30%

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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I can’t comment on the SIEM stuff, but I can say that 15 weeks of full time studying for a cloud practitioner cert is insane. You could get through the needed material for that cert in like, a day or two at most. I’m morbidly curious how they intend to fill the time, but I would equally say your time is probably better spent studying on your own for more advanced cloud certifications. The exams are all multiple choice and therefore not very difficult.

I’d say rather than focusing on SIEMs specifically, it would probably be better to go for a more general security cert like the sec+. If you really want to learn how to security, you should combine it with your cloud work! Build something in AWS, and then learn how to secure it, and use CloudWatch and CloudTrail to monitor. You can set up open source SIEM tooling if you really want, but I think the above is simply a far more practical sort of knowledge.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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passed my gcp security cert. very easy exam if you know IAM in any depth. some annoying gotchas with their add ons like forseti, but i was super confident in about 95% of my answers with about a day or so worth of studying.


Which just about does it for GCP certs for me. Having finished the Professional Architect, Network, and Security certs (and the associate engineer cert but that's basically just "name the service"), the Architect cert was by far the hardest due to the case studies. Very much recommend taking a course for that one. The other two can be entirely self taught just by reading the documentation.

Not quite sure what to do next. My AWS ACE cert is expiring next summer, so I'll use that an excuse to dip my toes back in those particular waters. Not remotely looking forwards to memorizing the terrible Amazon names for their services. Otherwise, I think it's probably time to branch beyond the major clouds.

I'm thinking maybe a linux cert just to formally learn everything in depth, probably one or two k8s certs as well. Beyond that, I guess a CISSP once I actually have 5 years of working experience, which I've heard miserable things about but every employer including our favourite Pillow Man seems to be obsessed with. Pentesting always seemed like fun to study in depth, but I think I'll need some more JS experience first. I'm taking suggestions here is what I'm getting at.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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Famethrowa posted:

Caveat that I am still working on my CCNA, and have not yet gotten into the field. This is based on all the reading and talking to folks I've done over the past 3 years.

CCNA is a more of a deep dive on a lot of the concepts. The basic networking/subnetting/protocol stuff that Net+ covers is covered really early on, and then it dips heavily into routing and configurations. To give an example, my CCNA work this past week has been doing configurations on virtual routers to get them fully configured and pinging across subnets. If you enjoy networking and want to go into it above entry level definitely go for the CCNA.

That said, AWS is a really really hot field right now, and you wouldn't be wrong for wanting to switch focus if networking doesn't sound like your bag.

cloud networking is a very underrated skill - you can and should combine them!

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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Vorenus posted:

Still working on Cantrell's AWS SAA course. I know the answer can vary from person to person, but how long should such a course take to get through? I don't want to be a lazy and spend six months on it, but I'm also trying to pace myself especially through some of the very dry theory such as the inner workings of DNS and IP protocol.

A month is probably the longest I’d spend on the matter.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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As good a reason as any to finally start playing around with Azure. Thanks for the link!

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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AnonymouseNo5 posted:

What career(s) posting should I be focusing on if I'm getting the "trifeca" certs from CompTIA (A+, Net+, Sec+)? I've got two so far, and I've been applying to help-desk and other places with no "professional IT experience" and struck out so far. Get a couple interviews, "we'll get back to you"/ghosting or "you have no experience, so we're passing" responses.

It's honestly getting a little annoying. If someone would let me get my foot in the door, I could at least then focus on the position/job they want, but with A+/Net+, you'd think they'd at least understand I know the basics and am willing to learn/work my way up from junior into something?

Register a LLC, fix your friend’s and family’s tech poo poo for six months, do a few cloud projects (idk host a nas with user accounts for movie night, or a pihole dns server, make it something you actually use), and put IT Consultant and AWS on your resume.

You can probably even skip the LLC.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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AnonymouseNo5 posted:

So nobody help/remote will actually "train"/let you shadow for a few weeks and then go from there? I mean, I'm not going to "rm -rf / [-no-preserve-root]" a file system. I know of Active Directory, I just haven't ever used it being focused on SOHO stuff.

I have never been trained by an employer, ever, in all my five years of working in the industry. People want experts out of the gate. You’re going to have to be able to present yourself as one.

It’s unfortunate, short sighted, self selects for certain types of people… but it’s how the game is played. I really think the best way to get a job with no experience is to do it yourself so you can almost honestly say you have experience already. With a modicum of critical thinking skills and ambition you’ll be better than 90% of the rest. Once you’re in, the bar is so so low… by posting here and being motivated, I have no doubt you’ll excel. It’s just getting in that’s the harder part!

Also happy to answer any questions folks have, on AWS or otherwise. People here want to help. I genuinely recommend doing some casual consults and putting it on your resume if you haven’t gotten bites, and playing with the cloud in the interim.

The Iron Rose fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Nov 20, 2021

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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Uno Venova posted:

So what are the bare minimum entry level jobs you can apply for with an A+ and AWS CCP Certification? What's the job titles?

I’m not sure either are really worth much on their own without experience. Get the associate eng cert and then you might be talking. Set up a consulting gig, do some AWS projects for your friends/family and put them on your resume.

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The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

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Uno Venova posted:

You're talking about the Solutions Architect and/or the Sysops Admin right?

Yeah, sorry, they somewhat blur together at this point. I would consider the associate solutions architect the real baseline AWS cert. CCP is for sales and Directors up imo. It’s not really meant to be a technical certification.

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