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One thing I've always liked about certain British cartoonists is the love of the grotesque, e.g. Scarfe, Bell and Rowson. The savagery they draw their subjects (victims?) really makes you think they care about the point they are trying to put across. Even warped and misshapen you can still make out who they are trying to represent though. I just don't see the same in American cartoons, 90% of the time you can't even tell who they are portraying and it feels like they don't even give a poo poo. Is this just a biased view from the American Cartoon thread or are there any good grotesque American cartoonists out there?
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Zegnar posted:FT: Hm. I thought that said "No to Eli" and was trying to work out if they were trying to say the Tories were anti-semitic, which is about the only sort of racism they can't be accused of.
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Jan 18, 2013 00:32
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Fluo posted:Indy: I first read this as "stents dear boy" and thought it was about the NHS.
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Jan 20, 2013 13:16
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Fluo posted:
Jeez... maybe we should get those CiF-watch guys to look at these cartoons instead.
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Feb 13, 2013 09:37
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Fluo posted:Imdy: Is this still a valid criticism of the church? I mean the pope did apologise about it years ago. Sure it went (is going?) on but a public apology by the big man himself isn't really brushing it under the carpet.
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Feb 17, 2013 03:25
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Fluo posted:Steve Bell's video series are amazing! Thanks for these, I really enjoy the behind-the-scenes looks at our political machine in action. The leadership debate spin room was particularly ridiculous. I wish we had more journos with Steve's style. I think because he's a cartoonist first and a journalist second he can get away with not playing the politician's spin game, he just doesn't seem to care, he knows it's all poo poo and just goes along with it.
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Mar 8, 2013 00:11
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Torygraph posted:Williams wants to cushion every blow for every citizen, and believes no one should ever feel the pinch of poverty or the pang of hunger.[...] The Horror, the Horror!
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Mar 11, 2013 22:15
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Fluo posted:Daily Express: This is pretty ironic given how often the Express complains about those fascist Europeans attacking our rights to bendy bananas and re-use jam jars.
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Mar 20, 2013 00:36
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Fluo posted:Guardian: I think the Peron hat is a bit of a cheap shot but I have to say I'm loving this weeks If... being a Four Yorkshiremen Sketch featuring the Pope.
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Mar 26, 2013 18:35
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Fluo posted:Express: Wheres the joke? You will get less money if you claim housing benefit and have more bedrooms than the state says you need. 
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Apr 2, 2013 20:56
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Cloud Potato posted:Daily Mail: Daily Mail is a bit slow on this one, the ECHR ruling on Qatada was back in January 2012. Unless they mean the decision of our own domestic courts recently?
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Apr 25, 2013 09:09
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Cloud Potato posted:Express: It is somewhat fitting that while Prince Charles and William Hague have somewhat recognisable caricatures in these cartoons, Cameron just looks incredibly generic. If I'm not mistaken Clegg looks just like Cameron as well.
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May 3, 2013 00:37
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Is that a tweed jacket with a Rear Admiral's sleeve tack and shoulder boards on?
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May 6, 2013 02:52
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SedanChair posted:Y-you guys understand that Prince Harry is not on our radar at all, right? Similarly, please understand that only Express readers think Prince Harry is on anyone's radar over here too.
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May 17, 2013 12:06
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Fluo posted:Guardian: Cloud Potato posted:Independent: I have to say I'm impressed with these cartoons. In the light of a recent tragedy it takes some guts to effectively say that there may be some underlying resentment which causes this radicalisation, resentment which has some merit. I haven't seen many voices in the media willing to draw attention to this, so it is good to see the cartoonists doing so, and in brutal form as usual.
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May 27, 2013 15:23
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Cloud Potato posted:Telegraph: I love that the (possibly unintentional) implication here is that Clegg has crashed by taking his party too far to the left.
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Jun 6, 2013 21:27
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Cloud Potato posted:Express: I can only see this as a guy escaping from the high security psychiatric unit and accosting that poor woman with his incomprehensible speech and terrible political opinions. Look how terrified she is that he's grabbing her by the arm.
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Jun 27, 2013 18:41
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Cloud Potato posted:Express: Global Warming?  
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Jul 15, 2013 18:56
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Cloud Potato posted:Express: Is that how the Queen gives handshakes to the proles? A sort of phantom affair about two feet away from the other guy's hand?
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Jul 19, 2013 18:33
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Cloud Potato posted:Yesterday's Sunday Telegraph: Jeez this is literally "haha French people". There is absolutely nothing insightful here at all. Since E Pluribus Unum as a motto was apparently proposed by a Frenchman in the revolutionary period, perhaps it is referring to the (now forgotten) France-America alliance (revolutionary wars, fighting the British etc.) and suggesting a re-alignment of international relations as opposed to the relatively recent "special relationship" between the UK and USA. (nah its "haha French people eat Garlic")
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Sep 2, 2013 18:03
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Kegluneq posted:
Maybe the rictus grin is because she is casting no shadow and therefore a vampire.
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Oct 3, 2013 15:43
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I don't know, I'm a supporter of Nuclear too but the cartoon doesn't seem to be criticising Nuclear power itself, just the way it has been procured with subsidies/foreign investment etc. If it was a big Chinese mushroom cloud or whatever that would be fear mongering about "THE ATOM".
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Oct 22, 2013 18:36
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Cloud Potato posted:Express: It's 'ello 'ello 'ello, he can't get his own British references right. (Also why are they in a graveyard?)
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Nov 14, 2013 22:36
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I think the more important question is why there are Bavarian flags all over the beach? I suppose in Daily Express land the Germans are always invading.
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Nov 19, 2013 19:05
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Cloud Potato posted:
LABOUR'S UNION LINKS EXPOSED Shock! Horror!
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Nov 23, 2013 18:17
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Kurtofan posted:What next, German royals?! It's even worse, they are Romanians! http://www.cbsnews.com/news/vlad-the-impaler-how-is-prince-charles-queen-elizabeth-related-to-him/
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Dec 24, 2013 14:38
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Cloud Potato posted:Sunday Telegraph: Ugh the Telegraph cartoons are so relentlessly partisan, every cartoon this week has been a criticism of Labour or a jibe at the Lib Dems, at least Bell and Rowson were equally harsh to Labour when they were in power. Cloud Potato posted:Telegraph: I mean can someone explain this? Other than "Tories sensible, Labour irresponsible" I have no idea, the scene (set at a border crossing?) and strange clothing seems to imply some kind of tv show or something.
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Jan 26, 2014 02:03
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Trickjaw posted:Another subtle use of devious cliches, and another demonstration of dynamic and encyclopaedic knowledge of geography and skylines. I can only imagine those kangaroos/australians are a hundred miles high and bounding across from Sydney to Uluru. This also means Prince George is a giant...
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Mar 3, 2014 09:52
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Coohoolin posted:gently caress off Steve Bell, if any of your pet politicians from the lib dems or labour gave a speech like that about Europe you'd be praising them to the stars. Eh? Here's a recent Bell from just last week about a pretty crappy speech Tony Blair made: Cloud Potato posted:Guardian: Seems pretty critical to me? He is often critical of Labour and Lib Dems, did you follow his cartoons during the Blair/Brown years?
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May 1, 2014 21:02
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Coohoolin posted:My point is that Salmond's speech was excellent, very European and constructive and positive in character, expressing a seemingly genuine desire for cooperation and mutual growth- a speech that should be right up Bell's alley politically. Blair's speech was racist and xenophobic and bigoted and deserved criticism. The only reason Bell is giving Salmond a hard time is either because Bell doesn't like the SNP or he doesn't like Scottish people. If he judged the speech on its own merits he wouldn't be taking the piss. Oh right, I thought you were on about a different cartoon as well. As a Welshman I don't have much of a stake in the Scottish referendum (other than wishing you would take us with you) but Bell does seem to be quite vehemently anti-independence for some reason. Jedit posted:I've got some video footage of Bell talking Salmond and the SNP from a lecture I attended last year and then completely forgot to ask permission to post on YouTube. I'll contact Special Collections and ask if I can post it for you. (The whole lecture is on the history of political cartoons; you'll probably enjoy it.) I hope you can get permission, it would be interesting to see whether he has a more nuanced stance on the referendum. Obviously as effective as political cartoons are as a medium, nuance is usually not one of their strengths.
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May 4, 2014 12:56
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Well first off this isn't one of Miliband's policies, its a proposal by some guys in the party, I mean a number of Tory MP's want to ban gay marriage but you can't say that's Cameron's stance on the issue. Secondly, a part of me dies every time I see socialism used as an American style bogey-word over here. I mean c'mon a majority of Tory voters are in favour of nationalising the railways so I guess most Tories are socialists now?
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May 5, 2014 01:28
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Cloud Potato posted:
According to that youtube video Bob is actually a surprisingly young guy with a patchy beard which is not at all how I imagined him given his output.
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Jul 21, 2014 18:05
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baka kaba posted:Express: Just noted the British policeman in the fluorescent jacket. Looking for Maddie in Portugal?
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Aug 8, 2014 16:34
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baka kaba posted:Lots of Putins and not one of them doing some weird accent stereotype, I'm so proud! I imagine it's COBR. Edit: I just noticed that it looks like a cheap knock-off of the American situation room but with a cooler name, just like our Navy has aircraft carriers with no aircraft but cool names. Clapham Omnibus fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Sep 1, 2014 |
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Sep 1, 2014 01:13
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frankenfreak posted:Lidl is an interesting choice here. Well he does have a German wife.
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Oct 24, 2014 09:09
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If he was from Lappland that would make him an EU citizen so is Santa part of the evil euro-horde?
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Dec 17, 2014 10:25
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Dolash posted:I don't know how groundbreaking it is to draw a bunch of world leaders in cynical foul caricature, that's how Rowson always draws them and there's probably some Express reader who'd have the exact opposite reaction and think Thomas is capturing the solidarity of the moment while Rowson's engaged in the usual reflexive hatemongering. In the context of that video and satire targeting people in power, I find it amusing that you think Rowson is engaging in 'reflexive hatemongering' with 'cynical foul cariacture'. Can you even hatemonger against some of the most powerful people in the world, aren't they the most legitimate targets of satire? I'm not familiar with Charlie Hebdo but if it was anything like Private Eye in the UK as some have suggested then these are exactly the types of people it would be satirising every issue, so it would serve as a more apt tribute in that respect than something more saccharine, see the current cover of Charlie Hebdo as evidence that they can be as as edgy as Rownson. As other people in the thread have mentioned, there are plenty of reasons why they might be considered hypocrites or legitimate targets of satire, e.g. David Cameron is now (inevitably) proposing freedom-of-speech restricting legislation (including suggesting that we should do away with encryption). Clapham Omnibus fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Jan 14, 2015 |
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Jan 14, 2015 01:25
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tdrules posted:Paul Thomas has been let go according to the Eye. I like to think it was because of the raunchy headmaster cartoon.
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Jan 21, 2015 19:00
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This is really good, I wish it had been posted when we had that discussion about Rowson's Hebdo cartoon, it puts the point on the marching leaders hypocrisy much more plainly. More Australian stuff thanks.
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Fans posted:The Guardian  Bell shows everyone how to make a pig joke with some substance. By the way where is Rowson lately?
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