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Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

nuzak posted:

That's more of a statistical problem. not correcting for comparing all the voxels to all the voxels. But yes you can't see the images in people's heads or read people's thoughts because that's not how cognition works, and cognition isn't centered around the brain anyway, it involves the body and the environment just as much. fMRI tells less than half the story.

Xcom doesn't stick to real science, who knew! In the interest of staying on topic, who would like to propose more effective methods of alien interrogation?

Uh that seems pretty much wrong.

Cognition is just electrical signals in the dendrites of your brain. The only reason we can't scan them now is because everybody's brain is wired differently, so we have to train a neural net on your brain functions to reverse engineer what anything represents before we can properly make sense of any one person's data. After that, there's the difficulty in simply reading all the dendrites an neurons in a brain; these guys are using FMRI to detect blood flow which is an extremely coarse method of detection, although it does work roughly. But its totally feasible in the near future so I don't know what you're on about. NNs are just going to get faster and more powerful, and we'll have a method to better scan brain neurons directly that'll make it straightforward.

I'm not sure what you mean about the body and the environment, those are just inputs to the brain. Yes; the inputs are effectively involved in cognition, but that's just perspective. For the purposes of detecting thoughts, everything we need is inside the brain. If you want to talk about cognition in that fashion, then the entire world is engaged in a single cognitive process. But who cares, that's not what we're after. We're not trying to predict the future of every person, we're just trying to read your dreams.

What about comparing voxels to voxels?

Does XCOM explicitly say its fMRI anyways? I'm not sure what about "In the future we could read brains" is so obviously wrong.

Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Jan 21, 2014

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Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Hank Morgan posted:

We're probably a bit away from getting a new thread for the release but I really hope the title of the thread will be XCOM 2: Terrorists from the Deep.

I'm still a bit sad its not TFTD.

But XCOM2 has mod support, riiiiiight? :)

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

MikeC posted:

I am not familiar with greenmangaming. Are they steam keys?

Yes, but they're steam keys that come from who knows where, possibly shady 3rd world sources. If you get your key it'll probably work, but I've had friends who bought games on GMG where they ran out of keys or the key they got wouldn't work on Steam. Eventually they got a refund but just kinda beware that you get what you pay for and GMG is, while less shady than other key re-sellers, a key re-seller.

itskage posted:

I'm amused by the sea monsters being more other worldly than the aliens.

I mean I know what you mean, and it's true. But, it's still funny.

Technically :cthulhu: is both an alien and a sea monster! And that's where most of it comes from.

Shiiiit now I really want a Shadow over Innsmouth tactical RPG using the XCOM engine. :allears:

Mordaedil posted:

I honestly thought they looked bad simply because they looked like someone got really lazy with the 3D modeling tools, built a bunch of boxes with a texture on them and called it a day.

The venom-like goo that would sprout from the ground was a lot cooler.

I liked them better in Zelda Twilight Princess :rolleyes:

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

I asked in the Steam thread and they pointed out that Greenmangaming says who they got their keys from on the individual game page, XCOM2 says 2K so your money would be going to the right people there.

Now if it says "Authorised Distributor" like with Battlefront, who knows where your money is going

Ah cool that's good to know. I may buy through GMG after all then...

I haven't had any problems, but I definitely have friends who have.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

The Iron Rose posted:

GMG is bar none the most legit third party seller of digital games after steam. Seriously they're as legit as you can get outside of buying off of Steam or from 2K directly. There are lots of shady keysellers out there, but GMG isn't really one of them. I don't have any affiliation with them at all, but I've bought a dozen or so games from them including preorders and have yet to had a remotely negative experience.

...do you think I'm lying? :confused:

GMG is nothing like Steam. Like I just said, they're the least shady of the key re-sellers; but they are a key re-seller and Steam is not.
Don't compare them.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

CrazyLoon posted:

To clarify, you download the game FIRST via Steam and the order number you get 3-4 days in advance and THEN you input the key to unlock it on the date of release. It won't work before that date, but you will have downloaded the game already so you won't have to wait on that. At least, I think that's how it went with Enemy Unknown and it definitely allowed me to preload it, but it was 3 years ago and I could be misremembering the details, so Iron Rose will prolly know more on this than me.

This is not nor has ever been how Steam works :v:

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

Like mentioned earlier, Green Man Gaming has changed their policies in a number of ways since the last few years, which includes not giving keys for most games ahead of time, and thus not enabling pre-loading. Actually, I am not even sure if you will qualify for the pre-order bonus content, since I know that for "authorised distributor" keys they actually source a lot them the day of release so they are not technically pre-order even if you pay GMG ahead of time.

Pre-orders are hit or miss on GMG, but they mention the pre-order bonuses in the store page. Usually if they do that it means they're pretty sure they'll have the pre-order bonuses.

Whats really shady is sometimes GMG sells keys and just says its the game and half the people get pre-order bonuses and half don't, just have to treat it as a 'nice to have' but nothing that was guaranteed.

Like I said before, GMG isn't steam. That said the store page says they're getting XCOM2 keys straight from the distributor so the pre-order should be good I think.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

I'm gonna have to make a Ripped Rick Sanchez character in Xcom2 :allears:

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

CrazyLoon posted:

Hard to decide if he'd work better as an Assault or a Gunslinger, tho.

Nah Rick is definitely a specialist. He gets technology drones, he hacks the enemy, and he can use his super science to heal people.

Roid-rage Rick I could maybe see as an assault, but I'm still gonna make him a specialist.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
Aw man why did they have to change the look of the mutons? They were classic! I don't care for their new look. :smith:

Hopefully we get a few good new types of aliens, and then mods can add even more.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.


#NotMyMutons

Its funny looking back at the original Xcom cutscene and character designs, it seems extremely obvious to me that they were ripping off Rob Liefeld style 90s action comics.

Like, look at this:



Youngbloods is 100% the origin of Xcom armor.



Same people. Same exact people lol.

There was a lot of copying in early PC games though, Doom stole art and music from all over the place.

Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Jan 28, 2016

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Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Ahundredbux posted:

Curious... are you saying video games were made by nerds or something?

Oh comeon, that's a direct 1:1 copy. Its one thing if you take inspiration but when Doom goes and copies the cacodemon right out of a D&D manual that's kinda a big deal. :rolleyes: You must be fun at parties.

Dr. Stab posted:

Good foot occlusion orb, Rob. Job well done.

This poo poo always makes me laugh when I see it.

Hahaha, yeeeep. Good ole' Rob can't help himself.

Whoever drew that X-COM UFO DEFENSE sprite avoided the feet too, so he learned Rob's style well.

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