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Call the Shots, pop single perfection.
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2013 00:54 |
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# ¿ May 2, 2024 04:27 |
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-Inu- posted:I'm out of town so I haven't had a chance to listen to either song through proper monitors yet, but my first impression using lovely earbuds is that I like the Katy Perry song better. The production on Applause sounds incredibly generic and I'm not really a fan of Gaga's voice. The synths don't really don't mesh well with the Madeon-esque drums that DJ White Shadow employed (I couldn't find any credits to Madeon so I assume he wasn't involved with this song). Roar isn't super amazing or anything but I'm a big fan of Katy's voice and it's catchy enough. Also the lyric video is really cool. The Katy Perry song is alright but it's pretty much the textbook definition of generic. Lady Gaga at least attempts to be musically interesting.
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2013 08:46 |
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Looks like Roar will have the slight edge on the charts. It will be quite close to begin with.
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2013 12:53 |
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http://kworb.net/ww/ Check that for worldwide total iTunes charts.
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2013 09:29 |
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Yeah I can't believe that Lorde is in the US top 10, that's really amazing. I honestly don't know the last time a New Zealander made the top 10 as a solo artist. Also it's no surprise I guess but Roar really is a boring and mediocre song to be such a big hit.
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2013 04:59 |
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I'm sure you must have all heard Work Bitch by now the new Britney song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g58N_wKk3Bg&t=234s I find it very amusing and I enjoy it. I think it's a good song but I can't really tell. I just love they way she rhymes fancy with mansion, and then France for some reason. Brilliant.
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2013 14:48 |
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Gold teeth is just one thing in a long list of examples of big-money excess. It fits in with other things listed, such as Cristal and Maybach which are also heavily associated with hip-hop culture. But then ball gowns, bloodstains are also included, and things which can be taken in a more general way like islands and diamonds. I've not seen a huge number of rappers wearing ball gowns lately but there you go. She's targeting glitz and wealth in pop music in general which obviously includes hip hop music as that is a big part of the music scene today. Even if the song was blatantly about rappers and the hip hop music scene I don't see why it would necessarily be distasteful or vaguely racist as there are a lot of potential criticisms you could fairly target at the industry which have absolutely nothing to do with race. As it is I don't see anything at all which suggests there is anything distasteful about the song's lyrics.
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# ¿ Sep 16, 2013 02:13 |
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het posted:Like I said, they're actual things that wealthy people own, even if hip hop has latched onto those in particular as symbols of wealth. So you agree with me then? They are symbolic of hip hop culture's display of wealth. Just because they are actually things that other wealthy people may own doesn't change that.
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# ¿ Sep 16, 2013 05:17 |
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het posted:I think you're missing the part where I think it's kind of gross to specifically be targeting hip hop, and how she could have just left off "gold teeth" and it would just be about generic celebrity excess. You don't have a problem with targeting rappers, I get it. I think it's unpleasant and a little tonedeaf. I also don't think she is specifically targeting rappers. As I said i haven't seen many wearing ball gowns. I'm a big fan of hip hop but I also fail to see how critiquing the excesses of hip hop is in any way unpleasant. It can be a valid commentary. Oh well, some people are determined to find offense where there isn't any, I get that.
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2013 05:42 |
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het posted:Again, the fundamental issue is punching up versus punching down. I'm saying that citing "gold teeth" is crass because it's not exclusive to rich people and has a specific racial minority component that none of the other aspects mentioned has (post-release White Girl Grills aside). It's a lame dad complaint. For that matter, so is the "I'm tired of being told to put my hands in the air" thing. I'm half-expecting her next song to be complaining about how dubstep is "just noise" and "isn't even music" (NOTE: this is a joke. Also, I strongly advise against googling "lorde dubstep", yikes) Fine. I really don't think that was her intention though. You did seem to be implying that any critique against hip-hop would inherently hold a racial connotation which I don't think is necessarily true. Also, I think her message is not really about the crassness or evils of wealth. And it's not necessarily entirely derisive in tone. It's more about the shallowness and irrelevance to her and her friends of the symbols used to display wealth in popular music, and their lack of aspirational worth to real young people.
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2013 11:23 |
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Alvarez IV posted:You have guys like 2 Chainz and ASAP Rocky who only ever work with other rappers or Rihanna, and they get nowhere near the airplay on pop stations as they do on hip-hop ones. Although 2 Chaniz was on the latest Jason Derulo single. I too am hoping Work Bitch does well. I'm sure nobody really thought Britney would still be going strong in 2013 but here we are, good luck to her.
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# ¿ Sep 18, 2013 01:46 |
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somnambulist posted:Britney teaching the lessers how to make a pop video. Yeah that's awesome. She looks incredible, and that video actually makes the song better.
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2013 11:08 |
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mogran posted:With her album's worldwide success I say the switch from Disney sweetheart to whatever she is now was executed rather perfectly. It's just come out hasn't it? I can't find any sales figures yet. Also "Bangerz" is the worst album title i've ever heard. e: well it is doing well on iTunes Wandle Cax fucked around with this message at 12:45 on Oct 9, 2013 |
# ¿ Oct 9, 2013 12:06 |
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Paperhouse posted:I haven't listened to it, but the main criticism I've heard from people I know who have and who like pop music is that it's just not very good music. Well I think it's pretty good.
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# ¿ Nov 27, 2013 02:13 |
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Lord Krangdar posted:
She's not at all, Lana del Rey was even one of the artists Lorde mentioned as being lyrically irrelevant, part of which inspired her own lyrics.
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# ¿ Nov 29, 2013 06:05 |
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Mermaid Autopsy posted:"I think" in an entirely subjective way; as in "I think" they are better lyricists and release better music. "Protege" implies that they actually know each other and studied and worked together so it's not a very good word to use.
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# ¿ Nov 29, 2013 07:40 |
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PUGGERNAUT posted:But hey at least Lorde got nominated for every drat thing they did. Deservedly so I think. It was pretty obvious that she was going to get some nominations anyway. But hey at least Miley Cyrus didn't get anything.
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2013 10:13 |
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Sprat Sandwich posted:I dunno, I think the singles are all truly great but somehow the other songs don't do it for me? Weird. I think it's awesome. No months of hype, no messing around, just here's a new album, surprise! Brilliant move. And apparently there are music videos for all the songs on it too. You have to admire such a brave move like this.
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2013 09:50 |
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fuseshock posted:This is pretty funny. Oh Katy... her actual voice isn't too awful. I think it's very awful. Her performance on the UK X-factor final a day after that was horrendous also. At least she was singing live.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2013 07:10 |
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Spiteski posted:I found this far too funny not to share. Wasn't all that already on Monday? It's just Lorde's own concert tonight I thought.
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2014 07:16 |
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Spiteski posted:
Just Lorde herself I believe. There might be an opening act i'm not sure.
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2014 07:22 |
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PUGGERNAUT posted:Yeah, good lord they really brought the show down. Gosh there's a wrong opinion if ever I saw one. Bruno did a really good job though. RHCP should have done one more song, or made it a 2 song medley. Rageaholic Monkey posted:Why were the Chili Peppers only around for like half a song? The way it was announced, I thought they were going to be given equal time, but most of the time was spent on Bruno. I mean, I was okay with that because Bruno killed it, but yeah, why were they even there at all if that's all they were going to do? It was like Bruno Mars ft. The Red Hot Chili Peppers. The way it was announced was that Bruno Mars would be doing it. Then later on it was announced that RHCP would be joining him just because he personally invited them. So it was always going to be a cameo appearance. He just likes them and wanted them there.
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2014 03:35 |
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het posted:They look like young people wearing clothes. Different clothes have different styles.
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# ¿ Feb 18, 2014 06:41 |
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I think Jessie J suffers from singing "big" just because she can, not because it makes a good song and it comes off as too much and way too screechy. She's obviously got pipes but man Bang Bang is awful and Burning Up is almost unbearable.
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2014 07:20 |
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PUGGERNAUT posted:Gwen Stefani is an ageless wizard Seriously, she looks the same as she did in 1995. Which is to say fantastic.
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# ¿ Oct 22, 2014 05:10 |
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Yoshifan823 posted:Ed Sheeran won a Grammy for Song of the Year. I've heard some people like Ed Sheeran
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# ¿ Feb 16, 2016 06:38 |
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Really good summary of the situation, thanks for that.
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# ¿ Feb 20, 2016 03:57 |
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axeil posted:
I think that's fairly standard practice isn't it? If an artist turns out to be successful you want to lock them down long term.
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# ¿ Feb 20, 2016 09:59 |
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ghost emoji posted:Heartthrob was such a slept on album. I Was A Fool is probably one of my top 10 pop songs of the decade. Agreed. It's a perfect song
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2016 22:39 |
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Focus is one of the worst major singles in years, it's a thoroughly terrible, thoroughly obvious attempt at remaking Problem, but much worse in every single way. Recipe for success right there
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2016 07:05 |
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I'm not really into Bruno mars but his new song Versace on the floor is a slice of 90s ballad perfection.
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# ¿ Nov 4, 2016 07:02 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:Katy Perry is over 30. Usually, female pop stars are expected to have moved on from bubblegum music and started making "serious" music by the time they hit 30 so they can take advantage of fans getting older etc. Cf. Madonna starting off with "Like a Virgin" then arriving at "Like a Prayer" etc. around the time she turned 30. Taylor Swift's an odd case because she's done it a bit in reverse. CRJ was 26 when Call me maybe was a hit, Madonna was 26 when Like a Virgin came out. your theory has holes in it
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2017 01:22 |
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Melodrama is fantastic album full of layers and depth, every song on it is good and Lorde is fully deserving of any sweetheart status
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2017 04:22 |
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exquisite tea posted:I've always been a Katy Perry hater. You'll enjoy the 92% sales/streaming plummet for the second week of witness then
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2017 05:15 |
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somnambulist posted:Not to mention she bundled the album with tickets to her tour and STILL pulled horrendous numbers for someone that just finished an era with several #1 records. Complete and utter flop. It will probably be out of the BB200 next week which is just CRAZY for Katy loving Perry. Yeah I don't take any joy in her failure but it is interesting. Total lack of a hit single, the album was just bad, promoting it by desperately talking up the Taylor "feud" and the weekend long live stream, promising it to be meaningful and political music compared to what it actually turned out to be... the perfect storm of failure
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2017 06:41 |
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Deformed Church posted:This release is confusing me. Well it's hard to call an album that could well sell 2 million copies in one week a limited release but yes it's very unusual to be pushing the physical format so hard like this. It will be on streaming sometime in the coming weeks though
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2017 12:45 |
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Tove Lo's Blue Lips is out today I like it though I enjoyed the brighter catchier stuff she's done before. romantics I think is a highlight from the new one
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2017 07:24 |
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Spiteski posted:Me and the wife went to go buy this alongside Rainbow, as every christmas we buy "each other" a couple CDs for us to blast in the car 24/7. As far as i can tell Blue Lips hasn't had actually had a CD release anywhere in the world, I can't find anywhere on the whole internet that I could order it so the store that had one copy is a bit of a mystery
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2018 03:40 |
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I listened to Camila Cabello's album and it's decent but doesn't really stand out. The first 4 tracks are the best
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# ¿ Jan 13, 2018 23:18 |
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# ¿ May 2, 2024 04:27 |
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Grimes, or Emma Roberts
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