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Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Something to say about the website is that the background of the page changes as if it were part of the page itself. It's usually unremarkable, but in some dramatic moments it packs a hefty punch on the overall look of the page. It doesn't go to MSPA-level lengths, but it's also much prettier.

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Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
If bratty kids being annoying is something that severely hinders your enjoyment of stories, then you should skip the entirety of the first chapter and start at chapter 2. Sette is easier to tolerate there. Also, nothing of real importance happens in chapter 1 anyway -- it sets the scene a bit, but then the scene changes. Anything that needs to be known will be recapped and repeated (cf. OP, see: exposition issues) so don't worry about missing critical plot elements by doing so.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Hallgerd posted:

Still, answer to a 'what are smoke eels?' question found through it.

The words she uses to describe the Khert make it sound like a computer program.

quote:

The khert has little glitches in it; little hiccoughs in its structure. One of these hiccoughs is eels. For some reason when the khert finds these conglomerations of pseudo-cells, it reads them as eels, and grants them permission to not only exist, but to multiply over time and form smoke eels and move like eels and affect matter like eels.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Whitenoise Poster posted:

It's kinda creepy and it's starting to put me off the comic.

Same. Especially after reading these DeviantArt cartoon and archived Formspring pages that have been linked to before. Which make the whole scene a lot more disturbing (Murkoph being the author's pet and the whole Unsounded setting being apparently built around him (:wtc:), Ashley Cope admitting to have a "licking fetish" (:wtc:x2 combo) and how look what happens here, and more...

I'll still give her the benefit of the doubt for a while, but if it turns into "Sexy Undead Rapethlon 2013" I'm out.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Crisco Kid posted:

I'm a bit surprised the latest foray into disturbing territory has turned so many readers off, readers who presumably were okay with the child sacrifice/molestation/fever dream segment from earlier in the comic.

The main difference was that the culprits in the previous segment didn't have an aura of "author's pet" and a long series of comments from the fandom going along the lines of "he's so sexy, I wish he'd eat *me*~". This is the kind of subtle, little difference that separate "these characters are horrible and I hope they'll be stopped by the heroes" from "this author is disturbed and I'll stop reading this story" -- an important difference!

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
They seem to like the titcrow a lot (stained glass windows of her in the basement pirate's mansion) and titcrow's all about kidnapping infants to nurse with her toxic milk. (So they die and she has to kidnap more children, and so on.) It'd be kind of a strange symbol for well-intentioned, altruistic people.

It's more a symbol of a futile, selfish search for something unattainable, only resulting in the death of innocents.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

TheFuzzyLumpkin posted:

I don't know - he's in the papers, he instructs students, he preaches - he's clearly a pretty public figure at this point. If they try to arrest him for assaulting the councilor, he gets to turn around and say "I did it because the councilor was promoting BIOLOGICAL WARFARE."

Therefore, silence him with blackmail. Good thing he brought a perfect piece of blackmail material to work on this fateful day.

We're gonna get the source for this flashback.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

EgoEgress posted:

Also, is Lemuel Duane's older or younger brother? I can't seem to recall if it's been mentioned one way or another.

Duane looks older.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Someone is very confident that being a highly skilled specialist provides complete immunity to punching political leaders in the face.

Political leaders who are planning genocide, consider you an inferior breed of man, and don't hold your profession in high esteem to begin with.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Fabricated posted:

The author has only really killed people with very little characterization so far

I thought Ephsephin had good characterization, with personality quirks and a backstory. (Of course he was a low-level villain meant to be both loathed and pitied; which isn't really a safe characterization.)

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

idonotlikepeas posted:

murdered alongside his favorite daughter
Just to be clear, she's his only daughter too. The other girl is a friend of Mikaila from the neighborhood, and his other child is a son.

Also I think Ashley is aware that many of her readers don't really like Murkoph. I doubt that'll change her plans for the characters much, though.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Cowcaster posted:

I mean, I haven't read any of the non-comic materials

That's why.

Ashley Cope posted:

I suppose it's my fault for spending twelve years filling up my galleries with pictures and comics of him. He's always been a catharsis for me; a reason to cut lose and draw and write horrible poo poo for no real reason. But this existence of all that playful and meaningless stuff's made a bunch of people pass prejudgment in a really weird way that I've honestly never seen before. If the character had never been seen anywhere outside of his very few pages so far in the comic, I don't think anyone would be giving a crap.

A good chunk of the comments for his introduction are basically "Yay Murkoph! Awesome!" and the next few pages also have comments such as this:

Crazy person posted:

Murk's mouth looks verrrrry nice. I think if I have to be eaten, that would be the mouth I'd like to eat me.

The lesson here is that internet comments are terrible; but anyway between the creepy fans going "sooo dreamy" over a stitched corpse that rapes people and the side material that engendered said creepy fans, there was reason to believe it's a character we're supposed to love. After all, those readers who had been exposed to him earlier do love him...

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

bigbigtruck posted:

Yes, this, and I do wonder if said hand-wringing would even be happening here were Unsounded written by a dude.

It'd be a lot worse. Murkoph would be suspected of being a self-insert.

Cat Mattress fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Jul 2, 2013

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

britt posted:

To add to this and the lion connection, there's also this piece of old art. I mean it is really old and things could have changed since then, but the fact that I remember there used to be a comment on it that said the lion was her brother and it's now been removed, makes me think it's something the artist doesn't want people knowing yet.

One of the author's comments here is:

Ashley Cope posted:

Ah-ah, this is just concept art for an entirely different project (an illustrated book). What you see here doesn't necessarily apply to Sette in the comic. Don't jump to conclusions :)

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
I do not believe her claim about Pantoffel at all.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

idonotlikepeas posted:

Basically, Murkoph is Scrappy Doo.

Screepy Doo.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
It's quite clear in my opinion she is the monster/perversion/thing not properly handled by the khert. She's the one who stayed inside the khert for a while, keeping it open all that time.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Fabricated posted:

What is it with all of the creepy/touchy imagery surrounding Sette's father?

Ashley Cope has a creepy quota to fill in each page.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
The Aldish certainly know how to turn public executions into a fun and wholesome show.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Looks like Hamsteak isn't down for the count yet. I guess Elka becoming a large ham motivated her to show that nobody beats her largeness and hamitude.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
http://www.casualvillain.com/Unsounded/comic/ch08/ch08_66.html

Doesn't seem like she excused her.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
In the Best World, Sette, this would be seen as an early promotion.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Grognan posted:

Seems to be working to get people up and ready to quit this comic because the dude is so loathsome. That's effective characterization for a villain.

No.

Hitchcock or whoever else said that a story is as good as its villain. The takeaway from that is that a good villain makes you like the story, but a villain that makes you dislike the story is a bad villain.


A good loathsome villain is someone you're supposed to loathe as a pretend person, on a direct level. It makes you invested in the story because you want to see the villain get a comeuppance and the heroes prevail. If you dislike the villain as a character design decision and on a meta level, then it's a terrible villain. I'd like Unsounded a lot more if Murkoph wasn't in it at all, and that's not because of how repugnant the character is within the setting (characters like Starfish or Cutter are similarly vile) but because his presence takes me completely out of the story and makes me question the author's motives, skills, and sanity.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
All the guards are now either out, or out cold.

Interesting that the guards are fighting among themselves.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

WAMPA_STOMPA posted:

Just noticed the borderline child porn drawn on the wall in the background of this page.

The graffiti are meant to insult her, not to arouse passersby.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
"Man, are you alright?" seems like the appropriate thing to say after you accidentally cut off both of a colleague's arms. You never know. Maybe they actually are all right.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
In today's update, the important thing is the best mug design ever.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Fabricated posted:

People don't seem nearly alarmed enough by the gigantic evil hellstorm of smoke eels, even if the regular mean variety aren't terribly unusual.

The flying boobs are rather upset about it, though.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Is he taking the "hole" aspect from the flying butts? :getin: :goatsecx:

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
"He died as he lived: smothered in butts."

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Fabricated posted:

So he's a pedophile AND a hair sniffer. Where's this man's mod star?

With his fish.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
His name is Starfish, he's the star, he's the fish.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
One wouldn't think that the sentence "and then, the world erupted into a geyser of gore" would come up often in conversation, but anything is possible in Ashley Cope's Unsounded.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
The Deadly Nevergreen finally earns its name. It's deadly, and pretty much the opposite of green.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
http://www.casualvillain.com/Unsounded/ch10-p89
Unsounded is now Cucumber Quest

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
If Murkoph actually really is Ssael, Duane will completely lose it.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Bad Seafood posted:

For how much he was built up, Stockyard certainly didn't hang around for too long.

He should have quit while he was ahead. I guess he'll be a bit more detached about the whole thing now.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Gabriel Pope posted:

Starfish will be inspired when Duane and Sette die in his arms and take over as the main protagonist.

The rest of Unsounded is a Buddy Cops story starring Starfish and Murkoph.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Captain Oblivious posted:

Edit: I find myself wondering what the hell an Aesthete is. I'm guessing he's a sapient zombie like Duane?

This one word isn't an invention from the author; it's a real word with a real word meaning.
http://www.tfd.com/aesthete

Reminds me of when I saw people use the word ascetics when it was quite clear that they really meant aesthetics.

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Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Wonderslug posted:

I forget, do we know what the significance of "L12" might be?

The Lizardic 12 secret society

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