Squalid posted:

Genetic map of Europe. Axes represent genetic difference from north to south and east to west. Overlap between states represents greater genetic homogeneity. Note that Ireland and the UK are much more similar to one another than they are to Denmark or Norway or Germany. This is overlap is not due solely to the Welsh and Scots, the English are more similar genetically to the Irish than they are to other Germanic people. This is because the bulk of both nation's DNA comes not from invaders arriving within the last few millennia but from the first human settlers to the islands. Of course the Y chromosome has a different history in Britain, but that represents a small portion of total DNA.

Soviet Commubot posted:

A kinda dumb map of this guy's vision of a future federal Europe. I imagine a similar map could be made in Victoria 2 by just going to every major country in Europe and hitting the "release nation" button until you can't anymore.

Kurtofan posted:

What money would Quebec use? The livre? The louis?

Flagrant Abuse posted:

I'm more interested in those Irish tweets from Finland and Brazil. People on vacation maybe, especially the Brazil ones?

PittTheElder posted:

You didn't even give them Finland? 2/10.

Grand Fromage posted:

You answered yourself I think.

It's a fringe thing in Korea, not widely believed. There are other, less obviously insane but still comically wrong things that are much more widely believed.

cheerfullydrab posted:

You don't think it's sad that the blob on the right got screwed over in 1919?

Peanut President posted:

Well yeah but Russia just conquered Crimea without even firing a shot.

Raskolnikov38 posted:

Truly 1900s Minnesota lacked all of these! Hence it's reputation as a second Eden rather than frozen wasteland.

Kassad posted:

Smallpox alone was deadlier than the plague, and it wasn't the only disease brought in by Europeans and their livestock. Native groups suffered the equivalent of a plague outbreak every few years, for something like a century.

The really sad thing is that those epidemics were basically unavoidable even if the Europeans that came to the Americas had been literal saints.

DarkCrawler posted:

So how come we Europeans were such filthy disease-ridden hobos? Greater population? Better links to the rest of the world? Both?

Emanuel Collective posted:

What would Venice's economy consist of? Tax shelters?

duodenum posted:

Count Roland posted:

Speaking of countries breaking away, remember how disputed Kosovo was when it left Serbia? Russia was very much opposed. More countries support it now:

Shbobdb posted:

Glass is going to come back in a big way! From there, all Venice has to do is trade Antioch and Constantinople for religious artifacts and the economy will become self-sustaining in no time.

the jizz taxi posted:

Some theories say life might be possible in the upper layers of Jovian planets as well. So to be sure, better to shoot all that waste onto a lifeless rock moon like Amalthea.

TheBalor posted:

Genghis Khan was Mongolian for "Universal Ruler."

OctaviusBeaver posted:

Well it makes sense. If I thought Ukraine was in Iowa I would definitely think that the US should be more forcefully opposed to it being annexed by Russia.

Disco Infiva posted:

the jizz taxi posted:

Internet Swedes are among the smuggest and most chauvinist people ever. To some extent, Internet Scandinavians can be all a little smug, but Swedes are generally the worst.

Lycus posted:

Hm, I guess Estonians really are more similar to other Baltics than they are to Finns.

the jizz taxi posted:

Interesting, though it doesn't say much about phenotypical diversity. For example, the distribution in the populations of France, the Netherlands, Belgium and England is unsurprisingly similar, but generally speaking, Dutch and English people look recognisably different from French and Belgian people.

IceAgeComing posted:

Here's a politically loaded map about a thing that happened two hundred years ago!



This is a map of the results from the last election to the UK House of Commons before the passing of the Great Reform Act; which started to move towards making Britain a true democracy. This might make no sense to people outside the UK, so I'm going to explain the UK electoral system at the time. There was (and technically still are, it only effects election expenses) two type of seats: "County" seats that predominantly represented the rural, wealthy land-owning elites and "Borough" seats, which represented towns. There wasn't a real approach in creating boroughs: they were randomly created by the King to provide a reward to towns. Many of these were enfranchised in the 14th-16th Century; and the towns that they represented died soon after but they still got two MPs in Parliament. The only reason for disenfranchisement was corruption. This led to a situation where you had seats in so-called "Rotten Boroughs" bought and sold: fathers would control a seat and pass it on to their sons; with no real chance in being defeated. The biggest example of this is Old Sarum which held a right to elect two MPs to parliament despite the fact that the town died out due to the construction of Salisbury around about the time that in was enfranchised. By this election in 1831; it had an electorate of 7; all landowners who resided somewhere else. Bear in mind that big cities like Birmingham didn't have a right to elect any MPs. The unreformed parliament is really interesting; especially since it was a den of corruption for hundreds of years (most of the little dots in Cornwall were created by Henry VIII to guarantee a parliamentary majority; and were usually hamlets by that time and were universally disenfranchised by the reform act - in 1831: Cornwall only elected 2 MPs less than the whole of Scotland! In England; the Tories seem to have 3 county seats: the rest are in rotten boroughs that had been bought over time; and were eliminated by the next election,

Its also interesting to see the amount of Tories in Scotland and Wales: that's because the County Franchise in England was 40 shillings of property: while in Scotland it was 40 shillings adjusted to inflation; meaning that many Whig voters not part of the landed elite couldn't vote. There's also a weird thing in Scotland were there were sets of twinned counties that only elected seats to alternate parliaments; which created a silly situation where bits of Scotland simply didn't have MPs for a whole parliament!

Hip Flask posted:

Britain and France illegally colonized the whole shebang before that

lullelulle posted:

HonorableTB posted:

The situation with Russia is a lot more complex though. Crimea was a part of Russia long before it was a part of Ukraine. The Crimean Khanate was annexed into Russia in 1783 and Khrushchev gave it to Ukraine in 1954. The Crimean people were overwhelmingly in favor of being a part of Russia as opposed to being under Ukrainian control. 171 years of inundation with Russian culture and emigration gives a good reason for why Russia would want to take it back, as well as why Crimea should be allowed to secede from Ukraine and join the country they wish to. It doesn't matter what country it is, the Crimean people have the right to determine who they want to be ruled by (either self rule or rule under another country's government). Forcing a group of people to stay where they don't want to be doesn't ever work out so well. There's always a lot of trouble down the line when you try to do that.

HonorableTB posted:

Honest or not, that's the way the vote went. Unless someone can prove the results of the vote were illegitimate, then it has to stand. If you can't prove election fraud, how can it be invalidated? Saying the election isn't valid because people don't like the results of it doesn't make it so. I'm more inclined to believe the results were in favor of Russia (though I also believe the election itself had the numbers skewed) because ethnically Russian Crimeans have been agitating against the Ukrainian government for decades.

Edit: Crimea's population is 58% ethnically Russians or Russians that immigrated there (either by choice or through Soviet deportation in the 30s/40s), which adds to my belief.

TheImmigrant posted:

Iran legitimizes prostitution with the Shi'a legal fiction of temporary marriages. Their jurisprudence is fascinating, if you're interested in law.

Torrannor posted:

But Constantinople was the center and capital of the Eastern Roman Greek Empire for roughly ten centuries, so they held it longer than the Turks. Their claim is certainly much stronger than any they have to Persia, apart from the fact that the Romans Greeks built the city in the first place.

Actually, I think quite a few people in Europe would be happy about the Greeks taking Istanbul, because it would make Turkey ineligible to join the EU...

Crowsbeak posted:

And more than a million Muslims got forced out o Bulgaria in 1878. Wow its like how I said that the Balkans consisted of a bunch of nations willing to do anything to keep themselves linguistically and religiously pure. Really if your going to go at the turks why not go at all of them for being horrible? Also while I think turkey should apologize for the genocide against the Armenians. However the situation of the Greeks it has no reason to. Speaking of the Armenians.

Farecoal posted:

Oh yes those poor Greeks suffering under the horrible Ottoman empire, notable for levying an extra tax on non-Muslims. Truly awful

DrSunshine posted:

3peat posted:

What? I thought they were the same language

Soviet Commubot posted:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



In Welsh, the Lord's Sea (my Welsh is crap so that may not be right)



In Breton, the British sea or Breton sea. Brittany and Britain are distinguished as Breizh and Breizh Veur, literally Britain and Great Britain. Sometimes Brittany is called Breizh Vihan, or Little Britain.




Not really specific enough, there are rednecks in every corner of the US.

Dusseldorf posted:

Wait, what does Opera do?

Farecoal posted:

Actually that map conflicts with the one from the Wikipedia article



Blue - IE
Green - Chrome


despite Wikipedia getting it from the same site

Oh wait, turns out the Wikipedia one only counts desktop browsers