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 Woodrow Wilson's wonderful idea for a Armenian state. I'm sure the Kurds and Turks in that planned nation would have been fine.
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univbee posted:Another fun Having been through Wisconsin a hundred times I can not emphasize how much this map is entirely true.
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Soviet Commubot posted:What exactly can yellow mean here? I grew up in a yellow county (Gratiot, Michigan) and the only restrictions I remember are no sales between 2AM and maybe 8AM and no sales before noon on Sunday. Is it just stuff like that? I suspect that's how it seems to be for the most of the places of Michigan I've visited. Oh whats with the lone county in South Dakota? BTW nice to see a person from where my Mom's home county hails from.
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Konstantin posted:All the land in that county is a part of the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, which has voted to be dry due to the massive alcohol abuse problems among their population. It's one of the worst places in America, here are some stats from Wikipedia:  I knew life on Reservations was bad, but those numbers are like what I would expect of the worst parts of Zimbabwe. Seriously what the hell is wrong with this country? Although I'll gladly use these stats when ever some libertarian racist shitheel says they don't deserve what little the Feds give them.
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Lord Hydronium posted:Did someone say alternate history? THe problem I always had witht he southern victory seriesis how really screwed the CSA would have been in reality after the civl war. The European powers were already transitioning to other cotton markets, . When sending cotton to the north they'd run up against the tariffs, and the war would definitely not have helped the already outstanding issues between the poor whites and the aristocracy. Not to mention that I don't doubt the north would much care about blacks escaping north any more. (As long as they kept to the "proper" places).
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John Nance Garner posted:First ballot at the 1920 Republican Nominating Convention: Now I know the guy was a cold hearted imperialist, but at the smae time I can't help but think this country would be better if Wood had won.
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khwarezm posted:Its worth mentioning that some of the Anatolian coast had Greek majorities into the 20th century.  Makes one wonder what happened to all the Turks living in Northern Greece. Its almost as though the entire Balkans and Anatolia consists of nations with lots of blood on their hands. Seriously what happened in 1920 was the culmination of 100 years of violence by the various nations.
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esquilax posted:There was mutual ethnic cleansing as part of the Treaty of Lausanne. While ethnic cleansing might have a gotten a bad name in the latter half in the 20th century, the architect of the deal actually won the Nobel Peace Prize for the plan. Yeah, it wasn't just that. Over a million Muslim Europeans got displaced permanently in the war of 1878. Not to mention the thousands displaced in the Greek War of Independence. Then we have the expulsions fallowing the Balkans wars.
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khwarezm posted:Except the ethnic cleansing in the 20s involved three times more people on the Turkish side, not to mention Turkey's policies against Armenians and Assyrians. Not trying to justify anything the Greeks did but I don't think all sides are equal. And more than a million Muslims got forced out o Bulgaria in 1878. Wow its like how I said that the Balkans consisted of a bunch of nations willing to do anything to keep themselves linguistically and religiously pure. Really if your going to go at the turks why not go at all of them for being horrible? Also while I think turkey should apologize for the genocide against the Armenians. However the situation of the Greeks it has no reason to. Speaking of the Armenians. 
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khwarezm posted:I'm having trouble finding figures as high as a million people for the 1878 expulsions and, wow, its almost like it was chiefly carried out by Bulgarians and Russians rather than Greeks or Armenians which was the original topic of discussion! Well when the Greeks do, the Turks should as well. Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Apr 18, 2014 |
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Really because the jews were not originally from Spain, their expulsion was totally justified.
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Emanuel Collective posted:you call that Greater Turkey? Didn't some young turks think that should be the goal after the first world war? Speaking of the Balkans, here is a great way to piss off Turks abit and Greeks alot. 
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OddObserver posted:Do Bulgarians(?) use "White Sea" for the Aegean Sea? Serbs, and Bulgarians do call it that.
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Ammat The Ankh posted:Wow, say what you will but the Slovaks are shooting way farther than any of those other states. That was created by a hungarian I believe.
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icantfindaname posted:
    I wonder what would have happened to the rest of the populations (which constituted the majority that wasn't Armenian.)
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icantfindaname posted:If those borders were actually enforced I bet it would have ended up as part of Russia, possibly repartitioned into an Armenia slightly bigger than actually existed, and a rump Turkish province. Yes and Stalin was just great to minorities wasn't he? Also lets look at the treaty of Sevres in detail.  Just look at how many people are put under a foreign power, or forced to be with people who had a history of ethnically cleansing them. It was such a great treaty based on ensuring peace wasn't it?
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icantfindaname posted:
I wasn't saying he wouldn't treat the Armenians well, I was talking about everyone else who would have been affected in a enforced treaty of Sevres. khwarezm posted:Population numbers on the ethnic breakdown of the Ottoman empire right before world war 1 is a... controversial issue. Some people think that the Ottoman's under-counted non Turks and several French and British ethnographers and geographers complained about this. The Armenian Patriarchate also had very different numbers from the Turkish government, but they were probably based on shakier foundations than Istanbul's.
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:
Chicago? That movie is probably the most lightweight film to have won best picture.
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mcustic posted:Minnesota and Wisconsin? I had no idea. But Crash is still a bad movie. I really do not now where the love of Crash is coming in my state. I know no one who likes that mediocre movie about racism being bad. steinrokkan posted:Metal is the price paid for being wealthy. I believe you mean the main perk. Dusseldorf posted:Well besides the fact that it founded the progressive movement. Given it recently went Tea Party crazy it's pretty much the only state that actually put up a fight. Hey Minnesota not only beat back the tea party (DFL Both houses and the Governors Mansion) and we got 9.50 Minimum wage. Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 00:43 on May 9, 2014 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:
Yeah its Wikipedia. Also I really am surprised that none of the former Warsaw Pact has won ever.
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We're not allowed to leech images, right? or is it okay if it's Wikipedia?
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cafel posted:In a PM I had with Xylo a while back he said he'd let it go if other mods (at the time he wasn't an admin) didn't think it was a violation of the rule on hotlinking, but that he found it distasteful because Wikipedia is a non-profit that relies on donations. Okay I'll remove it, sorry about this.
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icantfindaname posted:IIRC it was a fight over the legality of private Catholic schools and Jesuit colleges. Protestants wanted them made illegal and replaced with public schools which would teach the correct biblical religion as opposed to the evil papist Catholicism Lets be honest, those amendments may have been founded in bigotry, but they really would be helpful now.
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computer parts posted:They really wouldn't since they're specifically about schools. I'm thinking about Louisiana and its school system right now. Seriously we could stop one part of the charter school movement fraud that way.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:
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Kurtofan posted:I guess Mormons aren't Christians Well their not Chaldeans.
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