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SombreroAgnew: Sep 22, 2004; unlimited rice pudding

poo poo, I was just about to post a Texas map too. Oh well, it's still somewhat distinct.

Maps of the Republic of Texas commonly show the full claims as its territory, but in truth it was barely able to control the 'accepted' territory. It was allowed to retain its claimed borders upon entry to the Union, but traded much of it in exchange for the federal government taking up its old debts. Which was fortunate, as Texas was saber rattling and sending state troops to assert its claims to New Mexico against the US, which likely would not have ended well.

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SombreroAgnew: Sep 22, 2004; unlimited rice pudding

1938 German propaganda poster

Churchill's Yalta plan for German partition

Roosevelt's Yalta plan for German partition

Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau's partition plan, to permanently remove Germany's industrial capability. This plan was publicly printed, and became a German propaganda point.

German propaganda posted touting a supposed plan for total removal of the nation

Zones of occupation, 1945

East and West Germany, 1949. Green is the Saar protectorate, brown is the International Authority for the Ruhr, yellow is W. Berlin.

East and West Germany (W. Berlin in green). The Ruhr Authority was Disestablished in 1952, after West Germany agreed to join the European Coal and Steel Community. In 1957, the Saar rejoined West Germany after a plebiscite (what is now the flag of the EU has a symbolic 12 stars because a dispute over the independence of the Saar made it too troublesome to have them actually stand for Council of Europe member nations).

SombreroAgnew fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Feb 1, 2013

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SombreroAgnew: Sep 22, 2004; unlimited rice pudding

sweet home polypotania

Speaking of Jefferson:

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In October 1941, the mayor of Port Orford, Oregon, Gilbert Gable, announced that the Oregon counties of Curry, Josephine, Jackson, and Klamath should join with the California counties of Del Norte, Siskiyou, and Modoc to form a new state, later named Jefferson.[4]
On November 27, 1941, a group of young men gained national media attention when, brandishing hunting rifles for dramatic effect, they stopped traffic on U.S. Route 99 south of Yreka, and handed out copies of a Proclamation of Independence, stating that the state of Jefferson was in "patriotic rebellion against the States of California and Oregon" and would continue to "secede every Thursday until further notice."[5]
The secession movement came to an abrupt end, though not before John C. Childs of Yreka was inaugurated as the governor of the State of Jefferson.[6] The first blow was the death of Mayor Gable on December 2, followed five days later by the attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7. Secessionists focused their efforts on the war effort, which crippled the movement. Coincidentally, the "state of Jefferson" was one of the few places in the continental USA to be the subject of an attack during World War II, when Japanese pilot Nobuo Fujita dropped bombs on the Oregon Coast near Brookings on September 9, 1942.[7]

Aaaaaabsaroka! No seriously wind sweeping down the plains is the only thing we got.

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Absaroka, named after the Absaroka Range, was an area in the United States, comprising parts of the states of Montana, South Dakota, and Wyoming, that contemplated secession and statehood in 1939.[1] One of the leaders of the secessionist movement was A. R. Swickard, the street commissioner of Sheridan, Wyoming, who appointed himself "governor" and started hearing grievances in the "capital" of Sheridan.[2]
In a craze for state secession felt by the public, state automobile license plates bearing the name were distributed, as well as pictures of "Miss Absaroka 1939".[3]
The movement was unsuccessful and fairly short-lived. The chief record of its existence comes from the Federal Writers' Project, which included a story about the plan as an example of Western eccentricity.[4]

SombreroAgnew fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Feb 12, 2013

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SombreroAgnew: Sep 22, 2004; unlimited rice pudding

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Neutral Moresnet[1] was a tiny Belgian-Prussian condominium that existed from 1816 to 1920 between present-day Belgium and Germany. Its northernmost border point at the Vaalserberg connected it to a quadripoint shared additionally with the Dutch Province of Limburg, which today is known as the "Three Country Point". Prior to Belgian independence in 1830, the territory was a Dutch-Prussian condominium. During the First World War, the territory was annexed into Prussia, although the allies did not recognise the annexation.
The former territory is now in the Belgian city of Kelmis. Today, it is especially of interest to Esperantists because of initiatives to found an Esperanto-speaking state on the territory in the early 20th century.

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SombreroAgnew: Sep 22, 2004; unlimited rice pudding

Crameltonian posted:

(Also Hokkaido's apparently closer racially to Iceland than to the rest of Japan but I'm going to assume that's a map error)

Could be a disproportionate nod towards the Ainu.

SombreroAgnew fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Feb 18, 2013

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SombreroAgnew: Sep 22, 2004; unlimited rice pudding

QuoProQuid posted:

Unless I am misreading the map, they are labelled "Tribal and Christian".

Alternate historychat: The new flagchat? Time will tell.

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SombreroAgnew: Sep 22, 2004; unlimited rice pudding

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

So in what crack-addled alternate reality does the British Empire turn into a bunch of random "worker's republics" while the Russian Empire is still going strong (minus Poland, Ukraine, and the Baltic states)? Not to mention there's no independent Ireland.

Seriously, what person with absolutely no knowledge of the pre-WW1 British Empire came up with this?

http://edthomasten.deviantart.com/art/Fight-and-Be-Right-176385571

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SombreroAgnew: Sep 22, 2004; unlimited rice pudding

Killer robot posted:

Sometimes the two groups get along okay because they have a shared message that the races shouldn't mix, perversely enough.

Yeah, George Lincoln Rockwell of the American Nazi Party liked Malcolm X and called Elijah Muhammad the Black Hitler. As a compliment.

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This map outlines the Kush district in the Republic of New Afrika (RNA), which was a movement that started in the late 1960�s to establish a free nation-state of African Americans from U.S. states and counties with sizable populations of African Americans. The Kush district would have held the RNA�s first plebiscite for the popular legitimization of independence for the RNA. �Free the Land!� was the rallying cry for the RNA movement.

Ken Lawrence Collection of New Left Posters, Buttons, and Other Materials, 1940-2010, Historical Collections and Labor Archives, Special Collections Library, University Libraries, Pennsylvania State University.

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SombreroAgnew: Sep 22, 2004; unlimited rice pudding

DarkCrawler posted:

So, uh...American supermarkets must be pretty awesome places?

Let me assure you that this is not the case.

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SombreroAgnew: Sep 22, 2004; unlimited rice pudding

U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!

Welllll, on second thought,

Also I have no idea what's up with Goliad county in that 1845 vote.

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SombreroAgnew: Sep 22, 2004; unlimited rice pudding

Riso posted:

Isn't it obvious? It was full of Mexicans.

Maybe that has something to do with it, but the 1850 census only shows 15 Mexicans living there, and if that were the case you might expect some bigger numbers in Bexar and Nacodoches.

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