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Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Pretty sure I'm a Frodo

I'm pretty sure we're all Fatty Bolgers. Not cool enough for the adventure.

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Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Edgar Allen Ho posted:


The orcs take some more thought to adapt but Tolkien left enough that you can certainly do a much less "evil hordes that deserve to die" take than what Jackson or DnD do.

Orcs are easy to fix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9AJeakCa6w

They don't sound that evil, do they?

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Imagined posted:

A pro-click is the archive of cards for the old Decipher LOTR CCG. https://lotrtcgwiki.com/wiki/start

It was a very good licensed game. I loved how in the first few sets you had a mix of fellowship heroes as your party and the traveling mechanic was really thematic.
Later sets brought mono-elf, or mono-Rohan parties, which weren't nearly as fun.


Still Middle-Earth: The Wizards was the best Tolkien card game ever.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

CommonShore posted:

There was also a Middle Earth TCG/LCG that was out and about in the mid 90s and it had characters from the Silmarillion, including the Valar. I only encountered it once, and didn't get to play it, so I can't remember any more details.

It was great in a very unbalanced and experimental kind of way. It's was contemporary with the early Magic, so there was no exact blueprint on how to make a ccg yet.
Players controlled fellowship led by one of the 5 wizards that travelled across the map of middle-earth. Goal was to gather allies and equipment to defeat the Sauron. Technically there was a win condition for 'dunking' the One ring at the Mount Doom, but that was mostly a novelty gimmick deck.
Half your deck was bad guy cards and other half was good guy cards. Playing good guy cards gave resources for the opponent to play their bad guys, like Orcs, Drakes and corruption, but also let you draw more cards at the end of the turn to fill your hand.
There was also dice used to randomize combat results and whether your dudes succumbed to corruption.
First few sets were pretty clear, but it got way complicated with adding 'fallen Wizards' faction, Balrog-faction and Nazgul-faction, with their own mechanics.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

CommonShore posted:

Are you sure? Other than the "5 wizards" part that sounds like the gameplay of the Decipher one which I definitely played the poo poo out of. What's the actual name of the early 90s one?

Middle earth the Wizard (METW) has drawn paintings and was made by ICE that also published rpgs in the 90:s

Decipher one has pictures from the movies. The basic concept is same, except you are escorting Frodo and the One ring through 9 pre-chosen sites. It is much more streamlined and polished game.
In METW traveling is freeform. You can go to Recruit Blue mountain Dwarves faction at the blue mountains or go to the lonely mountain to search for the Arkenstone. You can even have party split up to travel to different locations.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Hexel posted:

no beard on dwarven queen

shows ruined

FIXED:

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Deptfordx posted:

I am now determined to watch this show and love every second just to spite these people.

As a refined cis het gentleman, I only watch this show, if it is great. I'm radical in that way.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Someone made some custom mountain ranges, which make the board look really cool:

Only 100 dollars.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

WoodrowSkillson posted:

Yeah its obviously just a plot device to move Galadriel where they want her, so if that storyline falls flat, its just a bunch of bad choices. If her story ends up being good otherwise its just a blip at the start that no one remembers

Pretty much. They could have literally skipped the whole thing and give Galadriel some other reason to visit Numenor.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Lotr + Hobbit Illustrated edition is pretty recent and looks pretty.

Any edition should be good though, as long as it doesn't Movie/tv-related covers. Those get old really fast.

Issaries fucked around with this message at 13:58 on Aug 3, 2023

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

webmeister posted:

I don't think they're controversial overall, but there's definitely controversial aspects of them even aside from complaints like "it's not how I pictured it". Changing Faramir's character, Frodo sending Sam home on the way up to Cirith Ungol, Aragorn tongue-kissing his horse, Arwen replacing Glorfindel at the Ford of Bruinen, some of the later dialogue like "axe in his nervous system" etc. A lot of these are adaptation choices which I'm generally fine with, but I can understand why people dislike them. People quibble about Denethor's portrayal, but personally think it's pretty accurate of a stern & proud old parent who's been brain poisoned by Facebook and Fox News the Palantir.

The performances are all sensational (seriously, is there a bad performance in all three movies?), the score is brilliant, the visual design and costuming are perfect, and honestly the VFX mostly holds up even 20 years later.

And compared to the LOTR slop that came later (the Hobbit trilogy and Rings of Power), it's hard to understate how good the films actually are. Are they perfect? No, of course not. Are they the best we're ever going to get? Most definitely.

All these complaints and not mentioning missing Tom Bombadil?
For shame. For shame!

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Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

keep punching joe posted:

I think it was right to bring Arwen in as a character though, otherwise it would basically be 9 dudes walking around. The film made good decisions with Boromir's character and bad desicions with Faramir.

It still ended up being 9 dudes walking. Arwen was just an expanded love interest role.

Now If you really wanted to have women as members of the Fellowship, you could have changed:
1) Either Merry (that's a girls name anyway) or Pippin
2) Legolas (don't need to change a single line)
3) Boromir (Big Sis overshadowing Faramir. Tragio heroine)

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