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skasion posted:The barrow was that of the last prince of Cardolan, so probably it was someone associated with the Cardolanian (Cardolingian?) royal house he was thinking of. He does seem to have a bit of a thing for the Dunedain, he’s familiar with Aragorn and knows who he is after all. But it’s Bombadil so who the hell knows. He's also familiar with Barliman Butterbur, so yeah who the hell knows. Ah well, I always enjoy re-reading these books. I'm going through them more slowly this time and picking up odds and ends that I've missed/forgotten.
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Throwback to the discussion on Orc immortality. I thought it was fairly obvious by this line from The Silmarillion: 'For the Orcs had life and multiplied after the manner of the Children of Iluvatar'. Then again, Men are also Children so...
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Sep 24, 2018 23:13
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Saurom and Felagund have a singing contest which I guess is meant to involve magic.
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Oct 6, 2018 12:58
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Man, the Akallabęth is really cool. Demon worship. Human sacrifice. Men going to war against the gods. Makes me wish Tolkien actually went through with The New Shadow.
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Oct 15, 2018 22:27
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Tom Bombadil > Book Treebeard > Film Treebeard Fight me.
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Oct 25, 2018 03:39
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Would Sam carry a printer to Frodo's house? Y/y
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Oct 27, 2018 11:57
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Gandalf warning Pippin against the dangers of masturbation?: 'If you feel an itch in your palms again, tell me of it! Such things can be cured'. Discuss.
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Nov 2, 2018 00:29
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Now I'm picturing Sam giving Frodo a footjob.
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Nov 2, 2018 01:37
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Man, Aragorn is kind of a dick.quote:For do not forget, Peregrin Took, that you are a knight of Gondor, and I do not release you from your service. You are going now on leave, but I may recall you.
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Nov 18, 2018 05:48
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I dunno guys, it still seems like a dick thing to say when the Fellowship is breaking up and they'll never see each other again. I'd have preferred a hug and a kiss from Aragorn, if I was Pippin.
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Nov 18, 2018 06:39
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Man, Frodo has absolutely no personality whatsoever. Even Eowyn comes across as a more developed and interesting character.
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Nov 23, 2018 05:49
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What about Sam?
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Nov 24, 2018 09:25
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gently caress Feanor and (most of) his sons. Morgoth is innocent.
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Dec 9, 2018 07:30
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Whenever someone says LOTR is good I think about the editing in this scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8ec3SRTN8U You must be a fun guy to watch movies with.
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Feb 23, 2019 00:32
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I used a Christmas book voucher to buy The Peoples of Middle-earth and The Return of the Shadow. I'm kicking myself for not reading anything from this set earlier. I've wanted to read The New Shadow for like 20 years but man, I didn't even know about The Tale of Tal-elmar. I wish Tolkien had written more for both these. Plus, all the draft manuscripts for Fellowship of the Ring are really interesting. It's funny to think we might have ended up with 'Bingo' as the hero of the story, not Frodo. Or Gandalf as a little old man and Aragorn/Trotter as a hobbit.
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Mar 6, 2019 20:55
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Orc.
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Oracle posted:Which honestly is what happened to a lot of men in WWI, where they all treated it as this big adventure and were gonna be chivalrous heroes like the knights of old etc etc. and the Kaiser would be whipped inside of six months and they'd all be home for Christmas. Isn't that what happened?
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Mar 10, 2019 01:36
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:If you're going to troll you should at least try to add the slightest bit of subtlety or plausibility. Look at this guy taking a post on an Internet forum seriously.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I like how Tolkien pays attention to the fact that his characters need water to live, unlike 99.9999999% of boring stupid fantasy writers. Yeah but none of his characters have to piss or poo poo which just ruins my immersion.
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Mar 14, 2019 10:28
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The "Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth" in Morgoth's Ring is really cool with all the ideas around immortality, death, multi-universes and what not. I'd never heard of it before.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:That makes sense. So in a way Feanor actually saved the world by being an obsessive piece of poo poo since the Valar were just gonna just let Morgoth do whatever the gently caress he wanted. Great gods you got there. In defence of the Valar... quote:The closing of Valinor against the rebel Noldor (who left it voluntarily and after warning) was in itself just. But, if we dare to attempt to enter the mind of the Elder King, assigning motives and finding faults, there are things to remember before we deliver a judgement. Manwe was the spirit of greatest wisdom and prudence in Arda. He is represented as having had the greatest knowledge of the Music, as a whole, possessed by any one finite mind; and he alone of all persons or minds in that time is represented as having the power of direct recourse to and communication with Eru. He must have grasped with great clarity what even we may perceive dimly: that it was the essential mode of the process of 'history' in Arda that evil should constantly arise, and that out of it new good should constantly come. One especial aspect of this is the strange way in which the evils of the Marrer, or his inheritors, are turned into weapons against evil. If we consider the situation after the escape of Morgoth and the restablishment of his abode in Middle-earth, we shall see that the heroic Noldor were the best possible weapon with which to keep Morgoth at bay, virtually besieged, and at any rate fully occupied, on the northern fringe of Middle-earth, without provoking him to a frenzy of nihilistic destruction. And in the meanwhile, Men, or the best elements in Mankind, shaking off his shadow, came into contact with a people who had actually seen and experienced the Blessed Realm. Morgoth's Ring, p. 402.
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May 18, 2019 21:23
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Myron Baloney posted:I don't think the way that all things are described as ultimately serving Iluvator's design means that all individuals have to be capable of or do good. Orcs serve their purpose by being Orcs, I suppose. And they're not "totally" evil, there are several passages where they sort of sympathize with others from their own home areas, just not very much. Care to provide some quotes for interest?
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Jun 13, 2019 01:24
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Oh well, 90% is fairly decent...Lucky for me, I re-read The Silmarillion recently.
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Dec 1, 2019 04:49
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Unless I've missed it, did nobody else have this edition? My parents had a much older first or maybe second edition that was falling apart, so I bought this when I was a kid and first reading it. It was maybe a year or two before the movies came out, so I fortunately missed out on all the crappy movie themed covers.
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Jan 24, 2020 09:06
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Sounds odd but I had no idea he was that old. 
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Jun 19, 2020 21:35
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Data Graham posted:- He pronounces "Sauron" the same way the interviewer does, like "dinosaur" That's how I pronounced it when I first read the books. It was only when the movies came out that I thought maybe I was wrong about the pronunciation and 'corrected' myself.
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Nov 8, 2020 10:11
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webmeister posted:Doesn’t the pronunciation guide in the appendices specifically say SOUR-on, not SORE-on? i.e. the movies had it correct? To be fair, I don't think I was flicking through the appendices on my first read through as a child. By the time I got into that stuff, the movies had just come out.
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Nov 8, 2020 21:09
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I seem to recall a great deal of controversy about the title of the second movie and how people were calling for it to be changed...
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Also I’m still catching up on the thread but I strongly recommend reading the Hobbit aloud. I did it, not for kids but to for an ex, a few years ago and it works so well. The chapters are perfect in length and scope, the prose flows perfectly, and the primary characters’ dialogue lends itself to inventing funny voices for them. Yeah, my first 'reading' of The Hobbit was hearing my dad it read aloud to me when I was nine.
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