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HIJK posted:At some point in the Silmarillion it mentions that Sauron was a Maiar of Aule who was lured away by Morgoth's fantasies.
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May 10, 2015 20:10
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Can Maiar reproduce? I thought that was restricted to elves, men, dwarfs, animals and assorted wildlife. I mean, okay, there was Melian but she needed an elf for that and I don't recall any other relationships like that. edit: Please don't bring up fanfiction that proves me wrong. anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Jun 19, 2015 |
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Jun 19, 2015 15:45
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I think the point is that reproduction was only a trait of Ilúvatar's children (ie what's been sung about) so Morgoth would have to have snatched an elf and a Maia to start making orcs in the first place - and from there you're back to the corrupted elves story, except with half the pointy ears. Besides, IIRC children of mixed races are supposed to be special - you only get three mixed marriages between elves and men and all shaped the world in a big way. While I like the idea of orcs with huge destinies running around and getting their heads chopped off before they can achieve the great things they're foretold to do, it's stressed that interracial - anything, really - is pretty drat rare. anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Jun 19, 2015 |
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Jun 19, 2015 20:50
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euphronius posted:The silmarillion constantly refers to Luthien and offspring as having the blood line of the maiar. Really need to reread Sil. edit: I also seem to remember that Luthien didn't give up her elvish ancestry - she talked Mandos into giving her and Beren a second life and I think they didn't age or anything. anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Jun 19, 2015 |
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Jun 19, 2015 23:11
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Right, that's it. I really thought that passage referred to Earendil, weird.
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Jun 20, 2015 16:42
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IIRC there was some evidence for both, but Tolkien died before he could clarify the issue.
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Jun 25, 2015 11:36
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There's a lot of Tolkien metal. Sometimes even taking pretty weird references. Nightfall in Middle-Earth is genuinely great, though. You can tell they really loved the source material. anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Jun 25, 2015 |
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Jun 25, 2015 18:06
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Yeah; before I read it I really thought it's just shilling a story that's already in the Silmarillion for more money while the movies are still popular but it turned out surprisingly good.
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Nov 3, 2015 14:40
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It'd also mean more Maeglin; I'm always cool with more Maeglin. For some reason traitors make for fascinating characters. I'm not sure if Tolkien wrote about that one in more detail, though; I know there's a fragment about Tuor entering Gondolin for the first time and passing through all the gates but that seems to be about it.
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Nov 4, 2015 11:37
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HIJK posted:I think it's well understood that the Valar hosed up at almost every turn with the inhabitants of Middle Earth. It always surprises me at how they do everything wrong. I mean, it can't have been hard to send out Ulmo or one of his happy destructive underlings to scatter the fleet; I get the whole pride/original sin analogy but it all comes out rather silly. The divinities misunderstading the Children is a pretty good point too; far as I can tell, the only two Maiar who ever bothered to learn how to work with them were Gandalf and, ironically, Sauron. anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 08:37 on Nov 8, 2015 |
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Nov 8, 2015 08:33
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I love that album and it's by one of my favorite bands but it keeps getting linked on every page. edit: Ooh, new page. So now I'm guilty of the crime too. Anyway, here's a question: what happened to Ungoliant? She had her little fight with Morgoth, retreated to some mountain range and a couple centuries later Beren repainted that place in spider innards - did he kill her, or does she just disappear from the story altogether? anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Nov 14, 2015 |
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Nov 14, 2015 17:01
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Smoking Crow posted:The technical name for a special mode earned by completing all the objectives is a "wizard mode." Lord of the Rings has the wizardest of wizard modes
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Nessus posted:Weren't the stewards originally the lords of Minas Tirith or something? I thought Faramir got confirmed in that or some other stuff, anyway. But if anything it showed the stewards were almost ridiculously faithful that even Denethor would have probably had to get the Ring to start calling himself "King".
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