Dieting Hippo posted:

You are right, she does specify "main series." Still, it is one of the examples of role-reversal for stereotypically helpless princesses. Even if it does have the whole "mood" system (women-are-hysterical-dames trope), she is still a strong female lead rescuing a helpless male. It may only be one game out of the millions Nintendo has pumped out, but it was a baby step in the right direction.

miguelito posted:

For what it's worth, I don't think the "everyone pay to send my kid to camp" thing is the biggest issue (even if it does look fishy considering the "you finance a project" Kickstarter rule). It's the shameless exploitation of the girls in tech/girls vs. boys angle to get money from stupid and emotional people.

Because she could have easily presented the whole thing as "get my kid to camp" instead of "Support girls in tech by helping this bullied cute little girl show the boys who's boss! Here's a picture of the boys, don't they look like total cunts?".
The thing is made up like an 80's kids/teen comedy narrative, only you put in dollars to get the feelgood ending.

The MSJ posted:

We interrupt this thread for good Kickstarter news.

The Kickstarter that made Kickstarter the talk of the town, Double Fine Adventure, now have a name and some basic info about it. It's now known as Broken Age.

Ooner posted:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2020036992/tiklyz-bold-and-beautiful?ref=category



How could anybody think there's a market for this? They want $15,000 to produce a bunch of lovely face stickers that nobody will ever ever ever buy.

quote:

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:38 am

Indiegogo deemed my page too high risk to resume funding, so they're refunding everything.

I was in a dark place, I was so close, I had a knife pushed to my stomach, but a very good person managed to talk me down. The feeling was intense. I can't even describe it, it was like I was drunk, like chemicals where whirring around in my head, it was surreal.

Things are not going to be the same. I need to do some serious thinking and think of what to do next. Everything will be alright.

I'm sorry.

...of SCIENCE! posted:

You can now count Shadowrun Returns as yet another KS that had to renege on their original pitch. They promised to make their game DRM free but part of the stipulation of getting the license from Microsoft was that they had to include DRM on the final retail product...and they only just this month started telling people. As a result they're using Steam and, while they're offering a special DRM-free version to backers, the only way you can get the DLC that they promised is by using the Steam version. Also there's no loot system and it uses checkpoints instead of manual saves.

These next few months are going to be interesting as the first-generation of big post-DoubleFine game Kickstarters start getting released.

Khisareth posted:

I was browsing local Kickstarter projects to see if anything looked interesting enough to support, and came across a project for a Magic the Gathering podcast. I like the idea of helping local geeks, etc so I go to watch their video, and the guy is wearing a Pedobear Tshirt. CLASSY. Uh yeah, no thanks.

Seriously look how creepy this guy looks.



hoo hoo hoo if it goes over $600 I can get my next batch of Madoka doujin huehhhhuuuuuhh

Accordion Man posted:

Hey guys do you want a sequel to the Nintendo horror video game Eternal Darkness? Well you're in luck because the original developer is trying to make a spiritual successor. They may have already fleeced a major publisher to help fund the gameplay video for it and also lost millions in a frivolous lawsuit they started last year, but don't worry guys they totally want to make a great game and not just steal your money. That's why they completely bypassed Kickstarter and Indiegogo and made the crowdfunding campaign on their own site, because they want to interact with you the gamer directly.

http://www.precursorgames.com/shadowoftheeternals/

Also please ignore their Terms of Use page, its all legal mumbo jumbo that hardcore gamers such as yourselves shouldn't bother yourselves with.

StevenM posted:

I wasn't really enthused about this project, but that concept art by Slugbox sure won me over! And by 'won me over' I mean "no thanks, that anatomy is completely unappealing as gently caress and often looks like two halves of two separate bodies were stitched together, also the glossy-as-gently caress rendering is terrible but people eat that poo poo up because it's superficially kawaii, ECKS DEE".

Dex posted:

Yeah, those totally normal people who are obsessed with a children's cartoon to the point of calling themselves bronies are probably real mad at people thinking they're one of the weird ones.

Anyway here's a thing:


Maybe this thing is cool, I don't know, I just think the idea of some super stressed person whipping out their iPhone and PIP to stare at some dragons flying around is funny as hell.

Evil Fluffy posted:

Just to go back to this, $15 isn't "barely above minimum wage" in most countries. It sure as hell isn't even close to minimum wage in the US.


e: Even real polygraphs are largely bullshit so expecting an app to be anything but a gimmick when the real machines can be manipulated (and the operators know how to lead the person they question) is like using your phone's camera for a DNA testing app.

Dash O Pepper posted:

I work at a VFX studio and can confirm that 15$/hr is on the low end from what I've seen in our office (Canadian, medium sized company), even for new hires. The lowest I've personally seen here is $22-25/hr and the highest being $60/hr.

I will also additionally confirm that artists are subhuman animals.

Rapdawg posted:

As I Goon, this was the first place I picked to advertise. I'm not the artist and art is the main reason we are Kickstarting this project, but I'm not going to sit here and defend my project piece by piece. I'm going back to my non-stop working to make the Kickstarter page better. No matter how many times I looked over the preview, and how many people I showed it to and got constructive comments on, there are so many things I'm frantically working to ad and change.

Anyhow, this is not me angry or trying to defend myself- this is me posting to say I mean my promise. I will work to make my product the best it can be because I take pride in it and because someone putting their faith in my product deserves that. For now though, I'm working non stop to update the page to show that I'm taking that promise seriously. I'm glad I saw my project posted here, it lets me know I'm right in refining and improving the page.

Anyhow, you guys rock, learned a lot of lessons from you all and keep on learning them. This post must read like a guy running on four hours of sleep is writing it, because, well, you know, I am. New goals set, to go from posted in this thread to incorrectly posted in this thread (since its for bad ones).

Death Himself posted:

A big thing which indie game devs looking to finally do a "big project" gently caress up on all the time is trying to get all the art assets lined up BEFORE they prototype. Make a short but playable prototype first and have your artist then do up some artwork into the blanks you left. Then you have something you can actually show people in a video. Asking for money is easier when you have something like that to show. It doesn't matter if you end up throwing everything from the prototype out and start from scratch once you get funded.

Rapdawg posted:

I spent a long time finding people who I could afford and who I think are talented enough to make this game. I found an artist duo in Canada who work incredible together, someone who has written and directed films that I find top notch, and lastly I have two editors who are fantastic enough to have been English majors but sound minded enough to pick a more career friendly major.

Rapdawg posted:

I don't know his checking account but shouldn't Spike Lee be able to produce this himself? Like, I'm a failed project creator so everything I say is a little off, but it makes me angry when people with industry connections make Kickstarters- it makes me sad that money did not go into other projects from talented people without those connections. Also, that it is not my money but that be the selfish side of me. Anyhow, just an update on my Awful Kickstarter, I know more what it means to be a boss now and in three days will begin my re-organization smart n' hard working plan. The first part of this is discussing with my team the plan and buying really really really cheap mock ups of the backgrounds I want and one really really cheap portrait of each character blank faced for place holders- then programming the game so that it goes from scene to scene right, then sending off to editors what is written to revise, revise, revise and finally plug in till I have a demo.

Back on point- when I started with no connections I sent out 40 letters and countless emails to reach out, I got four responses if you include Penny Arcade's amazing two responses. Spike Lee has his own production company, can he really not round up the cash himself?

Konar posted:

Always happy to see people's wide eyed crowd funding glee get dashed by reality. And now comes the inevitable wave of "ITS A DONATION GUYS "

SuccinctAndPunchy posted:

Man, this is horrible. A look into the mind of a socially anxious person could actually be a fairly interesting read for various reasons that have to do with an interest in the psychological.

I don't want a look into the mind of a man who draws crap like this (from the KS page):



I wish people would stop confusing social anxiety for generally having repulsive ideas and annoying everyone else away.

McNutty posted:

There isn't anything really wrong with honestly writing about your mental state and your perception as to why people you are attracted to ignore you, but the "I only date shitheads" trope is so loving old. Feel free to be paranoid and gross and sad (Joe Matt does this especially well in his graphic novel "Spent") but be interesting.

cyberia posted:

bonus round - Ugly Girls Zine
There's not a lot of information in this one but from reading between the lines it seems like they want to take photos of (fat) girls eating food as a way to subvert the dominant beauty paradigm. It makes the list for the unintentionally funny line:

Baron Snow posted:

Not to defend a lovely game, but Egoraptor does a good job of explaining why the modern pop up style tutorial is disliked by the gaming community.

...of SCIENCE! posted:

As evil as this is, what's even worse is that actual professional film studios are doing this exact same drat thing and almost nobody cares aside from the actual VFX artists.

fondue posted:

It's poser. He's doing everything in poser and then smudging the hell out of it to turn it into 'art'.

Happitoo posted:

For some reason, this one really bothers me:

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/save-encore-cinemas

It's for a cheap movie theater near where I live.

For starters, the entire point of the kickstarter is they don't have enough capital to update their business. But they use flex funding. So even if they don't get enough money to update, and therefore stay in business, they're still going to run off with your money.

On top of that, all their rewards are predicated on them staying in business. If you pledge to get movies for 6 months, they don't make their goals, and they're not in business for 6 months they just ran off with your money and you get poo poo.

Flex funding in this case is complete bullshit. Those projectors have a finite cost. You know exactly how much money you need to update the theater as a whole. If each projector is $50,000 and you need 2, that's $100,000. It's not like if you raise $25k the people selling the projectors are going to go "oh, ok, you tried your best... here's a cookie and a projector." So why the gently caress would you do flex funding when you know it's impossible to deliver if you reach below your goal? Oh... ya, because that way you can run off with people's money when you close shop.

The entire thing just screams "Hey, I'm going to run off with your money". At least if they didn't use flex funding it wouldn't scream scam. But then they'd never get their money.

Machai posted:

Holy poo poo those are some expensive tickets. Here in central MA I pay $8-12 per ticket and like $12 for a drink and popcorn (and I sneak in my own candy). My cousin came to visit from Pontiac and was amazed at how high our prices were. If I had to pay $20 for a ticket, I would just not go and buy the DVD when it came out.

Cockmaster posted:

The Beehive Sculpture - Modern art (of the "random crap glued together" style) combined with bees. I'm not sure whether to classify that as awful or awesome:

HEGEL CURES THESES posted:

I've read Berserk already, up to Issue 10, but I'm starting to lose interest a little. Does the plot pick up later?

quote:

After pre-production, we'll send all those assets to an international studio where dozens of artists will draw every element for every frame, layout, key pose, animate, in-between, ink and paint, and, finally, composite. The animation then returns to sunny Burbank, CA, where Natasha and her team will give everything a good look and recommend changes. The overseas studio will make those changes and, after a little back and forth, will deliver the final animation.

Young Freud posted:

Animation is traditionally very expensive to produce. Most routine television cartoon animation costs about $1500 to produce one minute of animation, while feature films are about $80,000 to 1 million dollars depending on the quality of the work.

For crowdfunded animation projects, "Bee and Puppycat" is probably about average when it comes to cost: Michael Gagne's Story Of Rex had a goal of $15,000 for a one-minute short (he got $60k and is producing a four-minute short with a trailer that has 30-seconds of new animation), and Masaaki Yuasa's "Kick-Heart" cost about $150,000 for a ten minute short.

Pick posted:

When they say "ink" and "paint", those are general animation terminology and do not mean physical ink and physical paint.

StevenM posted:

I thought traditional animation accounted for features that were drawn frame by frame, encompassing drawings done in sequence with pencils, and drawings done in sequence with computers and tablets (though the two aren't mutually exclusive). Like when you say "traditional animation", you don't mean "made in ToonBoom or Flash" or "CGI".

Princess and the Frog and How To Hook Up Your Home Theater were drawn on computers with drawing tablets.

Tubgirl Cosplay posted:

How do you figure, I mean tweened animations tend to look pretty distinctive, aren't mimicking traditional animation styles at all (that's the point), and involve like a tenth the actual cost/workload sooo...

Pick posted:

Now that Bee and Puppycat is going to make it I now feel freer to say this (since I did want it to succeed):

what a loving terribly advertised and marketed Kickstarter. Like, everything about the approach of the studio and creators was bad, bad, bad. The KS was carried by fans and Tumblr reblogs and poo poo because the series creators seriously had the most anemic approach I'd ever seen. Utterly too-cool-for-school artist-detached and it's like are you loving serious? Now is not the time to act like a Portlandia extra!

oh hey guys

here's a

picture of a character

yeah

there's a kickstarter

whatever

... Goes the person aiming to get a million loving dollars for a personal project .

Pick posted:

Uh, Ian J who posts here and works on Adventure Time and other shows in that circle has talked about his experiences coordinating with and visiting the Korean studios, and that's just not true.

PHIZ KALIFA posted:

Yeah ignore that guy, he spends most of his day complaining about fat people in the PYF social justice thread.

Pick posted:

TetsuoTW posted:

How did you manage to post this from the 1970s? You know South Korea's been a first-world nation for a couple of decades now, right? It's not some backwater assfuck stilt-shack nation.