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man thats gross
Sep 4, 2004

MjolnirMan posted:

Wait, though - so it's bad that you play her in a big bulky suit because it defeminizes her and she might as well be a centipede, but in Zero Mission and Smash Bros., where you play her without said suit (and not in a "reward" capacity but as a player character with powerful skills, weapons, abilities, etc.), she's a "gently caress toy" because she's wearing something less revealing than people wear jogging?

I guess the happy middle ground would be something that doesn't completely mask her femininity, but which is not so revealing that it renders her into a sex toy? Fem Shep might be a good example (although there are plenty of BAD examples in the ME series). You're not going to mistake her for a man, but it isn't exactly a tech demo for a breast physics engine either.

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man thats gross
Sep 4, 2004

Fatkraken posted:

A suit that makes it impossible to determine someone's gender is not a problem in and of itself, I personally find suits that have a "normal" male shape and a "special" female shape more of a problem because it makes masculinity into the default and femininity a deviation from that default. You mistake her for a man because gender neutral = man in most peoples minds, and THIS is the problem.

Errr, it's not a "special" shape. The shape with broader shoulders and no visible breasts isn't "default", it's the shape of a man. People assume Samus is a man because the suit has a masculine shape, not a gender neutral shape.



Massive shoulders, no neck, broad chest... Samus' power suit doesn't look androgynous, it looks masculine.

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