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RCK-101
Feb 19, 2008

If a recruiter asks you to become a nuclear sailor.. you say no

ded posted:

I remember when subs had quartermasters and ICmen. :chiefsay:

They brought back ICMen by the way

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ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Ryand-Smith posted:

They brought back ICMen by the way

They aren't rolled into forward ET anymore? Weird for the navy to change something they did wrong.

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.
Quartermasters (and their specialized navigation skills) seemed a lot more vital than ICmen and their mastery of not fixing phones

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Snowdens Secret posted:

Quartermasters (and their specialized navigation skills) seemed a lot more vital than ICmen and their mastery of not fixing phones

Rolling RM/IC/ET/QM into just ET was dumb as hell.

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004

I was in Orlando when they closed the QM (and every other non-nuke) school. :bahgawd:

RCK-101
Feb 19, 2008

If a recruiter asks you to become a nuclear sailor.. you say no

ded posted:

They aren't rolled into forward ET anymore? Weird for the navy to change something they did wrong.

Yeah, the fleet message just hit, they have their own master cheif and are looking for people to crossrate in/undesg to fill out the ranks.

Full Circle.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
Story time shipmate, pull up along side but don't tie up! :chiefsay:



So there I was on RIMPAC. We were to sail to Guam and stay for 3 days of liberty. We had already received the results for the E-4 advancements and I only had to do my 'course' on petty officer indoc to be frocked. So while underway the Quartermaster Chief was giving the poi course to me and the one other guy getting E-4. Soon as we pulled into Guam we were to have the ceremony and become PETTY OFFICERS. Everything was going good until....

The loving TB-29 broke. The hydraulics for the giant wheel that hauled the 1+ mile long towed array in stopped working. The only way to access the system was via the hole in the hull with a diver. They tried to use the same system for retrieving a broken TB-23 array (which is not as long and weighs much less) with a pair of smallboats and nearly sunk them both, this of course took 2 days of loving around because people don't understand weight in the Navy. Because of this we could not pull into Guam for 3 days of lib or get me and the other guy promoted formally to E-4.

So this happened.




Small ceremony in crews mess and none of us had shaved in over a week.



We sailed around Guam for 3 days then went back home to Hawaii. Once there the ship SALVO ONE took a whole 2 minutes to grab the TB-29 and tell us we could be on our way.

monkeyboy
Feb 3, 2002

If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
Heh, frocked to 7 while underway for a northern run, initiated AFTER returning to Norfolk in December. Of course, I was the only one. Besides the months of selectee abuse, they ran me through bluenose 3 times. Goats.

Also: gently caress towed arrays.

Amphion
Jun 10, 2012

All we know is... he's called The Stig.
Do any submariners wear a Rolex Submariner?

genderstomper58
Jan 10, 2005

by XyloJW
enlisted trash here, g-shock from the NEX

NIGGER DEATH TURBO
Jul 4, 2013

by Lowtax
an aviator wearing a sunmariner

genderstomper58
Jan 10, 2005

by XyloJW

friend of the family DEATH TURBO posted:

an aviator wearing a sunmariner



sunmariner haha, funny word for navy pilots imo :D

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.

genderstomper58 posted:

enlisted trash here, g-shock from the NEX

Literally wearing a g-shock right now

Old habits and old watches die hard

Dead Reckoning
Sep 13, 2011
If your watch doesn't have a GMT complication the other noblemen will shun you.

Fart Sandwiches
Apr 4, 2006

i never asked for this

monkeyboy posted:

Heh, frocked to 7 while underway for a northern run, initiated AFTER returning to Norfolk in December. Of course, I was the only one. Besides the months of selectee abuse, they ran me through bluenose 3 times. Goats.

Also: gently caress towed arrays.

Bluenose owns, although 3 times is a bit much.

Sacrilage
Feb 11, 2012

It will burn the eyes.

Snowdens Secret posted:

Literally wearing a g-shock right now

Old habits and old watches die hard

I wore my G-shock to an un-named top 5 b-school interview. The woman asked if I knew where I was applying. I wanted to ask if she knew that fat women are ugly. I restrained myself; still not sure if it was worth the acceptance letter.

Finally back from sea. Got to say, life on the carrier is loving awesome compared to the submarine. I cried over the roast meat at Sunday brunch. O-6 asked if I was alright; told him I always cried at the sight of beautiful meat.

NIGGER DEATH TURBO
Jul 4, 2013

by Lowtax
yeah i dunno if you wear a g-shock to that kind of poo poo obviously you don't know how to adapt to situations and she was in the right for questioning your readiness for that program

USMC503
Jan 15, 2012

For satisfactory performance while under the effects of hostile enemy alcohol.

Sacrilage posted:

I wore my G-shock to an un-named top 5 b-school interview. The woman asked if I knew where I was applying. I wanted to ask if she knew that fat women are ugly. I restrained myself; still not sure if it was worth the acceptance letter.

Finally back from sea. Got to say, life on the carrier is loving awesome compared to the submarine. I cried over the roast meat at Sunday brunch. O-6 asked if I was alright; told him I always cried at the sight of beautiful meat.

:laffo:

genderstomper58
Jan 10, 2005

by XyloJW

friend of the family DEATH TURBO posted:

yeah i dunno if you wear a g-shock to that kind of poo poo obviously you don't know how to adapt to situations and she was in the right for questioning your readiness for that program

Lol

Sacrilage
Feb 11, 2012

It will burn the eyes.

friend of the family DEATH TURBO posted:

yeah i dunno if you wear a g-shock to that kind of poo poo obviously you don't know how to adapt to situations and she was in the right for questioning your readiness for that program

Spot on man. Fortunately she didn't see the MRE in my suit pocket, or the bugoutbag under the table.

She apologized as soon as she realized I was military, and asked if I worked for the NSA. Not sure how a relatively bright civilian immediately associates the two.

E: Now that I think of it, I get the CIA/NSA question a lot.

Sacrilage fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Mar 8, 2014

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Sacrilage posted:


E: Now that I think of it, I get the CIA/NSA question a lot.

If you have military hair, dress in business casual or above, aren't visibly stupid and have a really big watch, that's pretty much that.

As time goes on and your military bearing fades then it will stop.

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene

Best Friends posted:

If you have military hair, dress in business casual or above, aren't visibly stupid and have a really big watch, that's pretty much that.

As time goes on and your military bearing fades then it will stop.

What

Kawasaki Nun fucked around with this message at 07:08 on Apr 19, 2014

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

gleep glop has a screen door in his sub

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene

EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:

gleep glop has a screen door in his sub

~~Don't slam the loving door you useless crank nub bitch~~

Why the gently caress was there a screen door to the scullery anyway? Seems like the stupidest noise transient you could possibly add to a submarine

Kawasaki Nun fucked around with this message at 07:08 on Apr 19, 2014

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro

Kawasaki Nun posted:

~~Don't slam the loving door you useless crank nub bitch~~

Why the gently caress was there a screen door to the scullery anyway? Seems like the stupidest noise transient you could possibly add to a submarine

So, did they ever re-open that torrent for you or what? I need closure, dude

Caconym
Feb 12, 2013

Snowdens Secret posted:

It is very difficult for 'friendly' surface ships to acquire and track a modern US submarine, even when surfaced, and even when the sub is actively trying to get them to (to avoid collisions or rendezvous for supplies.)


This was a while back, but you've been lied to by someone embarassed about their lovely radar operators.
I picked up a 668 (I think it was the USS San Juan) head on at 11 nm in choppy seas on a civilian grade furuno set, and I'm not good at radars. :colbert:

I think this was shortly after they surfaced at the 12 nm territorial limit as well, the contact was faint but persistent in the sea clutter.

Edit: This right here is a bad post. I did in no way classify her based on the echo, and did not intend to portray this a a feat in any way, quite the opposite. I came across as a giant rear end in a top hat.

Caconym fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Apr 20, 2014

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene

Booblord Zagats posted:

So, did they ever re-open that torrent for you or what? I need closure, dude

Suck another and find out. That custom red title is about as old as my account. Closure is for victims and.children.

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene

Caconym posted:

This was a while back, but you've been lied to by someone embarassed about their lovely radar operators.
I picked up a 668 (I think it was the USS San Juan) head on at 11 nm in choppy seas on a civilian grade furuno set, and I'm not good at radars. :colbert:

I think this was shortly after they surfaced at the 12 nm territorial limit as well, the contact was faint but persistent in the sea clutter.

You picked up a surfaced ship broadcasting their location over a variety and frequencies? As far as you can tell? What gave away that it was a 688 vs. The seawolf? How do you know you're not retarded?

genderstomper58
Jan 10, 2005

by XyloJW
totally picked up a 668 bro

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene

genderstomper58 posted:

totally picked up a 668 bro

Persistent. Stupid. Civilian. Proof. 668!!!!


Obviously you were just lied to. The other day I caught the USS THRESHER off the coast, putting around without a care. I know because I saw a radar signal that resembled Hyman Richmond's foreskin but disappeared without a moile!

Kawasaki Nun fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Apr 20, 2014

NIGGER DEATH TURBO
Jul 4, 2013

by Lowtax

Kawasaki Nun posted:

Persistent. Stupid. Civilian. Proof. 668!!!!

friend of the family

Caconym
Feb 12, 2013

Kawasaki Nun posted:

You picked up a surfaced ship broadcasting their location over a variety and frequencies? As far as you can tell? What gave away that it was a 688 vs. The seawolf? How do you know you're not retarded?

The fact we were meeting up with them to escort them to port? I'm not saying I classified it based on the echo. Snowden was implying surfaced subs are difficult to track on radar, my point was just that although they're harder to track than an FFG they're not exactly invisible.

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene

Caconym posted:

The fact we were meeting up with them to escort them to port? I'm not saying I classified it based on the echo. Snowden was implying surfaced subs are difficult to track on radar, my point was just that although they're harder to track than an FFG they're not exactly invisible.

What you wrote suggests you classified them as a 668 surfaced submarine radar signal and that anyone who couldn't do the same is inept. Congrats on picking up a signal of a ship whose bearing and destination were known. You are a human penis.

Also way to classify whatever you saw as the boat you were expecting. Good luck picking it out of a highly trafficked channel. Jesus Christ.

Kawasaki Nun fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Apr 20, 2014

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004

i saw me a mermaid once

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.

Mad Dragon posted:

i saw me a mermaid once

I even seen me a shark eat an octopus.

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010
But I be done seen about everything when I seen an LA blip

Mortabis
Jul 8, 2010

I am stupid

Kawasaki Nun posted:

Persistent. Stupid. Civilian. Proof. 668!!!!


Obviously you were just lied to. The other day I caught the USS THRESHER off the coast, putting around without a care. I know because I saw a radar signal that resembled Hyman Richmond's foreskin but disappeared without a moile!

Hyman Rickover didn't have a foreskin

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010

Mortabis posted:

Hyman Rickover didn't have a foreskin

Surely a fact only a seaman would know.

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004

http://news.msn.com/us/navy-oks-changes-for-submariners-sleep-schedules

quote:

Research by a Navy laboratory in Groton is now leading to changes for the undersea fleet. Military scientists concluded submarine sailors, who traditionally begin a new workday every 18 hours, show less fatigue on a 24-hour schedule, and the Navy has endorsed the findings for any skippers who want to make the switch.

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Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.

Note that it's not going to a surface ship-type business day schedule (which would be a disaster) but instead stretches the existing six-hour shifts to eight. Which makes me wonder how meals are handled. But then it mentions "(they) structured shifts for officers in a way that allowed all of them to be awake and work together for part of each day." Because if there's one thing sub officers complain about it's that they don't see enough of each other.

Plus all that 'circadian rhythm' stuff is BS, as other studies have shown the only thing keeping the human body clock on a 24 hour schedule is that big burny circle in the sky, and that people in low-sun environments (Scandinavia, Antarctica etc) naturally shift to all sorts of oddball poo poo (28 hour days, etc.)

If you want a 'regular sleep schedule' on a submarine your options are a) get off the loving submarine or b) increase crew size by like 40% to be more inline with surface ship watchstander / watchstation ratios, or c) slash the poo poo out of underway training, field days and drills, all of which ain't gonna happen. The fact that the entire article is written on the word of one captain likely snowballed by his junior Os on the success of his cunning scheme, and that everyone interviewed seems to believe "stand watch for a shift, maintain/relax for a shift, sleep for a shift" is a thing that happens with any kind of consistency, fills me with unconfidence.

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