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Caconym
Feb 12, 2013

Snowdens Secret posted:

It is very difficult for 'friendly' surface ships to acquire and track a modern US submarine, even when surfaced, and even when the sub is actively trying to get them to (to avoid collisions or rendezvous for supplies.)


This was a while back, but you've been lied to by someone embarassed about their lovely radar operators.
I picked up a 668 (I think it was the USS San Juan) head on at 11 nm in choppy seas on a civilian grade furuno set, and I'm not good at radars. :colbert:

I think this was shortly after they surfaced at the 12 nm territorial limit as well, the contact was faint but persistent in the sea clutter.

Edit: This right here is a bad post. I did in no way classify her based on the echo, and did not intend to portray this a a feat in any way, quite the opposite. I came across as a giant rear end in a top hat.

Caconym fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Apr 20, 2014

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Caconym
Feb 12, 2013

Kawasaki Nun posted:

You picked up a surfaced ship broadcasting their location over a variety and frequencies? As far as you can tell? What gave away that it was a 688 vs. The seawolf? How do you know you're not retarded?

The fact we were meeting up with them to escort them to port? I'm not saying I classified it based on the echo. Snowden was implying surfaced subs are difficult to track on radar, my point was just that although they're harder to track than an FFG they're not exactly invisible.

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