Glazius posted:

In my head, the dividing line between Ritual and Cast a Spell is the difference between completely solving a problem and creating an advantage/disadvantage.

Also! Question came up on RPG.net but nobody really weighed in - how do you deal with the intersection of armor and spending hold on Defend to take half damage? I subtract armor from the damage and then cut what remains in half, but I'm not sure what the order of operations should be.

Glazius posted:

Well, I'm just thinking there are characters who can potentially have 6 armor all the time (plate + shield + paladin/fighter advanced moves), and doing it half-before-armor makes them pretty much invincible.

Huckabee Sting posted:

I have a druid question, too. Probably a silly one. If a player uses a hold point to use an ability, say poison someone as a snake. Does the druid still have to use Hack and Slash to make sure the attack goes through? Or does using the hold point bypass that?

Sionak posted:

In my Inverse World inspired game, the players just came across a cache of clearly evil masks with weird powers. They have (of course) decided to use the demon masks, so I've been trying to come up with a custom move. The masks are meant to be fairly powerful items that slowly corrupt their wearers.

This is the first custom move I've really done for DW, so I wouldn't mind some feedback. Here's what I have so far:

When you channel your will through a Demon mask, roll +Wis.

On a 10+, the mask helps you in a way that fits its nature.
(The masks are based on fairly simple traits - Deception, Gluttony, Hatred, Cruelty, and so on.)

On a 7-9, pick two.
- The mask doesn't ask for a favor in return.
- The mask doesn't interpret your request according to its own goals.
- You do not draw the attention of the mask's master.

On a 6-
The effect goes awry as the mask interprets your request. In addition, gain a corruption point as well as an experience point.

As corruption points accumulate, the personality of the mask may affect its wearer. When a character has corruption points equal to half their Wisdom, then the personality bleeds over. When the character has corruption points equal to three-quarters their Wisdom, the mask is a constant input on their decisions. And when the character has equal to their Wisdom score in corruption points, the mask is essentially in control.

Any feedback? Is introducing the corruption points too fiddly?

quote:

[mage] thinks for a moment.
"I would like to offer my services as a magic wielder as trade in exchange for payment towards a ship."
He says directing his offer towards their host.
"I am able to restore any object you desire with a marginal success rate."


[Thief] and [bard] still looking the worse for wear [mage] steps over to them and the old woman to make his point and attempts to heal all three of them by shaving a year of age off their bodies. To make them more youthful and resilient.
"Age, Reverse, Heal!"
11:02, Wed 04 Sept 2013: [mage] rolled 5 using 2d6+1 ((3,1)).+1 xp

[Mage] embarrassed by his blunder and realizing how this would effect the potential trade of magic for boat attempts to cancel his spell with an additional spell.
*whispering*"Spell Cancel Reverse"
But he blunders that too.
11:03, Wed 04 Sept 2013: [mage] rolled 6 using 2d6+1 ((3,2)).

hrm.. something must be wrong. Let me rest and I'm sure with a clear mind I can clear all this mess up. *holds his aching head in his hands a moment*

gnome7 posted:

The easy fix would be to keep the Defy Danger move, but then also give the Tallow Fiend the following moves:

- Bind them with wax
- Set them on fire
- Melt or burn an item away

The DD move would trigger when you want to make a soft move on the players, and the list above would be your hard moves to hit them with when they're reeling.

jivjov posted:

If I recall correctly, Grim World had a short window of post-Kickstarter preorders for physical books that ended shortly after halloween, but that was it. Can't speak for the other two.

BrotherAdso posted:

Basic Terrain Type - an area can have only one basic terrain type. This is usually something very simple like "desert," "jungles," "hills," "mountains," and so on. If no one defines a basic terrain type during Exploration, it defaults to the same basic terrain the characters left from.

BrotherAdso posted:

The party may spend two Explorer Holds to do things like…
--> Describe the basic type of terrain they are traveling through IF the area they are leaving had a "soft border".
--> Extend the basic terrain of the last area they were traveling through to this area.
--> Add a feature or element to the basic type of terrain from the last area.
--> Extend a feature or element to the basic type of terrain from the last area.
--> Add a tag, descriptor or a specific individual to a settlement in the area they are traveling through.
--> Place a "soft border" indicating a gradual change to a new type of terrain.

wrl posted:

Was messing around with some monster-as-character ideas and started whipping up The Treant for fun. Not even close to done, but comment/enjoy.

King Cohort posted:

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Con Artist
Whenever you attempt to sell a useless item, talk yourself out of trouble with an authority figure, or try to convince someone you are more powerful than you truly are, roll +CHA. If you roll a 10+, you are successful and you gain +1 forward to the next move taken to deceive the same target....

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Bag of Tricks
Your bag of tricks contains various props, such as 'magic' wands, powders that change the color of fire and smoke, crystals, and tarot cards. As long as your bag of tricks is in your possession, you also have a supply of the following useful items with 2 Ammo each:
•Flash Cotton creates a quick burst of bright flame. When you use flash cotton to blind a creature temporarily, roll +Dex; on 10+ the target is blinded just long enough to take advantage of the situation. on 7 - 9, they are blinded, but pick one:

• It does not last as long as you hoped.
  
• Someone unintended is also blinded.
  
• You supply is momentarily exhausted until you can replenish it.
  

•Smoke Bombs rapidly fill an area roughly the size of a small room full of thick smoke. When you throw a smoke bomb at your feet, spend 1 Ammo and all creatures in the affected area have limited vision, but are also obscured from others.
•Fireworks come in two basic types.

• Cherry bombs explode after two or three seconds and cause disorientation. They may be thrown (near) and deal your damage to anyone struck by the cherry bomb.
  
• Rockets take a minute to set up (slow) and deal d10 damage to anyone struck by one. All rockets follow an erratic path, take a -1 penalty when you Volley with rockets. This penalty increases to -2 if the target is far.
  

All fireworks are very, very loud.

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Powder Monkey
When you have the supplies available and spend one or more hours crafting more tricks, you may replenish up to 2 Ammo (to a Max of 3 Ammo) on one of the items in your Bag of Tricks for each hour spent doing so.

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Level 2-5 moves:

Juggler
Take +1 to volley and +1 damage with thrown weapons. This advanced move is problematic, typically classes don't gain a flat +1 to any basic moves. The only alternative I came up with was perhaps something closer to: when you throw a weapon with the thrown tag, you count it as the ammo tag instead, this gives you a replenish-able supply of throwing daggers and anything else thrown you find.

Cowardice
When you defy danger by running away or hiding, add +1 to your roll. This is the same problem that Juggler is having, here's an alternative: you may treat a 7 - 9 as a 10+, but you pass the danger on to another person nearby. This allows the charlatan to bypass having to take a worse outcome by pushing the problem onto an unsuspecting victim, which could turn out bad as well. This also sets up for a new advanced move.

A Little Knowledge is a Dangerous Thing
When you roll a 7-9 on a spout lore attempt, you may ask your GM to give you two pieces of information instead on one moderately useful one. One of these pieces of information will be true, and useful. The other will be completely wrong. This move is counter-intuitive to some Dungeon World principles. As a DM it only makes things difficult, I would never lie to the player on a spout lore or discern realities, even on a miss. It isn't part of playing to the fiction and it is frustrating to players.

Nothing Up My Sleeve
You get +1 on sleight of hand attempts. This one is the same as juggler, but I am tempted to allow it as I am changing the 6 - 10 move that is based on this one.

Level 6-10 moves:

The Long Con
Take +1 ongoing to all moves intended to deceive someone who has fallen victim to your con artist or fortune teller moves until your deception is discovered. This goes hand-in-hand with the change I made with the Starting Moves: Con Artist. "If you roll a 10+, you are successful and you gain +1 forward to the next move taken to deceive the same target." as a result, I removed the +1 on Con Artist and... Your cons are exceptionally believable. When you attempt to use the Con Artist move or Fortune Teller move on someone whom you've successfully fooled before, take +1 forward to the roll.

Pyromancer
You've mastered the theatrical use of fire, and picked up some nasty tricks to use in combat. As long as you have your bag of tricks, you can roll +DEX to throw a burst of fire in an arc (close, 2d6 damage, ignores armor).You also get +1 to volley any flaming objects. I love the idea of adding more tricks to your bag! I wish there was a 2 - 5 move like this one. However, it does not fictionally make sense that you become more accurate with objects just because they are on fire. This move, unfortunately, seems unfinished. There is nothing that tells you what happens when you roll +Dex; what happenes on a 10+, 7 - 9, or even miss? Also, it needs a fictional trigger, like the others. PS: omg, thats a lot of damage, again. So we replace it with: When you use your bag of tricks to produce an arc of flames immediately in front of you, Roll +Dex. On a 10+, deal your damage to any creature caught in the flames, this attack ignores armor. On a 7 - 9, as above, but either someone or something unintended, or even you yourself, is caught in the flames as well. (note, this trick does not use ammo, you're probably using raw ingredients to do this anyway.)

Well Read
Requires: A Little Knowledge is a Dangerous Thing
Take +1 to all spout lore rolls, and get twice as many uses out of books. Same as juggler, but it would be okay if this were conditional. Perhaps, When you Spout Lore on the mysterious or magical, take +1 Forward to the roll and... the books thing

Factotum
You can learn one move from another class, treating your level as one lower. You can't learn real magic. This move may be taken twice. You've already taken it once as a 2 - 5 move, you can't take 3 multiclass moves.

Just a Misunderstanding
Requires: Cowardice
When you are outnumbered, you get +1 armor and +1 defy danger. This is the thief's Underdog move, but with the impossible +1 to all Defy rolls attached. I still need to change the second part to something else.

Master Magician
Replaces: Nothing Up My Sleeve
You get +2 on sleight of hand rolls. Remember, I said I was replacing this back on Nothing Up My Sleeve. When you use Sleight of Hand to remove and object from another creature's possession, you may replace it with another object of your choosing without any further detection; a convincing fake you fashioned just for this occasion, a different item yours or someone else's, or a lit firework.

Desperate Lie
When one of your schemes is discovered, you have one last chance to tell a whopper and convince your mark it was all a misunderstanding. You get one chance to roll a 10+. This roll never gets any kind of bonus. This move is fine, but seems unfinished. I suppose you are trying to make the roll to avoid the reprocussions of your own scheming. It just doesn't seem clear what the results of this roll mean.

Lord Twisted posted:

Some advice needed on the outset - do you guys do grid combat? Hexes?

slydingdoor posted:

I assume Sage and Adam.

Actually the moves draw from various fire themes. Here's a starter move trigger: "When you gaze intensely into someone eyes, you may ask their player “what fuels the flames of your desire?”"

Here's some advanced moves: Sick Burn (insult move), Burning Bridges (sacrifice bonds to be reborn), Moth to the Flame (tempt a weak mind with your inner fire).

Deltasquid posted:

Is it just me, or is the dexterity stat a lot more useful in Dungeon World than the other stats? My players aren't min/maxing assholes but I imagine that if you wanted to make an optimized character, 16/15 dexterity at start would be a lot more useful than 8 or 9. Not because of the mechanics, but simply due to the nature of fiction. Dodging stuff is always going to be more useful than taking it to the face. You could conceivably dodge both an arrow and an ogre's club, but you can't really block such a massive strike, so STR and CON aren't as effective. Defy danger is almost always with dexterity, because running away or dodging or climbing and what have you is almost always possible. This is closely followed by charisma which is useful in social situations but even then messing up can always be resolved with "We bail out."

What I'm saying is, unless you're a fighter, you probably won't put much in STR or CON. Unless you're a cleric or druid, WIS is your dump stat. Only bards really use CHA, and nobody but wizards uses INT. But everyone should invest in dexterity because it's really the swiss army knife of abilities, even if it's secondary to their most important stat. This makes elf fighters almost universally superior to the other fighters: they can totally dump STR if they want and dodge anything coming their way.

I don't really know why I'm writing this, I'm just kinda annoyed that my idea for Randalf the Ripped, the wizard with 16 intelligence and 15 strength, seems mechanically inferior to Rincewind with 16 intelligence and 15 dexterity, so to speak. Unless you have a good GM who manages to throw a lot of different dangers your way that you can't just run away from, or you like handicapping your character for roleplaying purposes, you never defy danger with anything except dexterity.

100 HOGS AGREE posted:

I love letting my players roll CON to just tank something and shrug it off. That always has great descriptions after it happens.

Deltasquid posted:

Well, specifically, he held his breath in a room full of poison that makes you hallucinate rather than deals damage. He took his sweet-rear end time investigating the room (think like 5 whole minutes) so I thought he had to roll CON at least once to keep holding his breath. Those last two were pretty much the dangers he was defying at that point.

EDIT: also, I don't think anyone has ever triggered the defend move in my many months of gm'ing. They all rather attack the enemy, triggering hack and slash instead. I think the idea that you can't completely negate damage with defend means they are all wary of using it and would rather just deal damage if they're going to take it as well. Besides, the way we interpreted it is that the defend move is only when defending something other than yourself. If the paladin protects the ranger while the ranger fires arrows, the paladin is defending the ranger and can redirect the damage to himself (thus almost entirely negating arrows and such due to his high armor). If he wants to take a blow to his chest while he swings at the enemy, that's just hack and slash with him taking damage (either 7-9 normal result, or 10+ with him dealing extra damage). If he's using his shield to take a blow, I assume that's either defy danger with STR or CON (I'd err to the side of STR).

Dungeon World posted:

Defending yourself is certainly an option. It amounts to giving up on making attacks and just trying to keep yourself safe.

100 HOGS AGREE posted:

We've basically come full circle then. Great!

RSIxidor posted:

"Gavilians! Horrible creatures,"

Cheap Shot posted:

Yeah, I really wish it would display the prices in USD. I'm probably losing some potential backers because they're used to all the prices being USD.

Radio Talmudist posted:

So for the past few hours I've been reading this excellent summary of the DW rules I found on the AW forum. Turns out it was written by goons! Good job!

I think I'm going to have a go and run a game of this. I'm pretty new to RPGs and so are my friends, so a rules-light game like DW seems to be a smart fit. That said, I'm still a little intimidated by the prospect of having to improv so much. I hope I'm up to the task.

Babe Magnet posted:

YOU TAKE MY LIFE, BUT I'LL TAKE YOURS TOO

The Trooper

djw175 posted:

Can I take 8 battleaxes and combine them into an octuple battleaxe?