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JoshTheStampede posted:Those look a lot like the pots P3 uses. I don't know what GW has against these pots though - they should just swallow their pride and return to them. I understand that branding purposes require you to have a distinctive design, but if your designs consistently fail to work properly, maybe it's time to return to the tried and true design that actually works.
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berzerkmonkey posted:If they aren't, they are very similar in design. The seal on them is drat near perfect - the only time you might have issues is if you get paint in the lid rim. Once it starts to dry there, the lid doesn't seat correctly. But it was an easy fix - just get your Xacto blade and pop the dry paint ring out and you're good. It's almost as if GW has a vested interest in people needing to buy new paint every few months whether or not they use it all.
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Apr 16, 2013 13:57
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JoshTheStampede posted:It's almost as if GW has a vested interest in people needing to buy new paint every few months whether or not they use it all.
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Apr 16, 2013 15:54
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berzerkmonkey posted:There's that too. I know GW is dickish, but intentionally designing paint jars that cause paint to dry out after a few months? That seems a little too dickish, even for them... It's less intentionally designing jars to dry out paint and more intentionally not switching to better designs when doing so would lose them money in the long run. I'm sure the initial design was just negligent, not malicious.
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Wait, does GW no longer use the pots with the little flip up lid with the kinda little lip thing at the top that I am not describing well at all?
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AlternateAccount posted:Wait, does GW no longer use the pots with the little flip up lid with the kinda little lip thing at the top that I am not describing well at all? Depends on which you mean. If you mean the black-lid sort of octagon pots with flat tops, those are long gone and were terrible. If you mean the squatter, rounder-topped white-lid ones, they are using a sort of Mark II of those now, since they renamed and redesigned the whole paint line.
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berzerkmonkey posted:Hell, yes. The other day, I needed an off-black and I opened a pot of Salamander Black from the Space Marine paint set - you know, this set: Yup that exactly. I bought all the paint sets in those boxes back then. And get this: I still have all the boxes.  ...what. They're good for storing things in and I like the old artwork. OK, so I'm a horrible packrat. Don't judge me!
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Leperflesh posted:OK, so I'm a horrible packrat. Don't judge me!
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Not paints. GW used to sell these kind of grab-bags (but boxes) of random minis. The box has a couple of windows so you can see what most of the miniatures are, but a couple of them are hidden. The whole box was pretty cheap, you were generally getting a reasonable price. It was a great deal if what you wanted was something to paint, rather than specific figures for a game. And presumably it was a way for GW to get rid of surplus figures that weren't selling. GW stopped doing that I guess because they really want people to buy a game and then buy all the minis for that game. e. 
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I don't know when that dates from, but it's worth noting that Citadel Miniatures functioned as its own company for a while before basically being subsumed into a GW trademark. So there was a period where they were definitely producing miniatures that were not really for any system, and certainly not for a GW game (I think they made some Conan and Judge Dredd minis?) I imagine that as they became more fully integrated into the GW machine that came to an end and stopped stuff like those boxes from being a part of the model.
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Yeah, there was still a bit of that at the time I bought those boxes, but most of the minis that came in them (at least that I got) were for a GW game. If I recall correctly, some of them included a blood bowl troll, an eldar guardian, an ogre, a minotaur lord, a 40k squat, a dark elf with a crossbow, two or three random goblins, a couple of random orcs... I think there might have been like a lizard thing with wings that didn't belong to a specific game, but for the most part it was Warhammer stuff. I still have my 1990 Citadel catalogs and they're 100% GW game figures, so by then they weren't making new figures for other games. But the stuff that came in the Bargain Boxes were all discontinued OOP models, at least if you believe what's printed on the back, so I'm sure there was some random non-GW stuff in there too. edit: oh weird this is the Reaper thread. For some reason I thought we were in the general modeling thread. Sorry for the derail, guys, this is obviously not relevant to Reaper at all.
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Leperflesh posted:edit: oh weird this is the Reaper thread. For some reason I thought we were in the general modeling thread. Sorry for the derail, guys, this is obviously not relevant to Reaper at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e54m6XOpRgU
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JoshTheStampede posted:Those look a lot like the pots P3 uses. They are. The first generation of Citadel paints were made by HMG (which make Coat d'arms, P3, and Wargames Foundry paints now) and used the P3/CdA flip top lids, but then they switched to the familiar hex pots.
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I just got mine, 10 days shipping to NZ is pretty sweet! What's the story with figure cases - am I supposed to get foam with it? I haven't been paying much attention to the updates and so on.
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Apr 17, 2013 11:42
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Keep paints that have permanently separated or thickened up, if you have the space. They are excellent for adding texture to models. Damage on vehicles, for example, stipple on some of the thickened paint, then fill the middle in with black or something and leave the edges showing. The texture really adds to the effect. And it's good for adding a bit of individuality to walls, flat roads etc.
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xiw posted:I just got mine, 10 days shipping to NZ is pretty sweet! What's the story with figure cases - am I supposed to get foam with it? I haven't been paying much attention to the updates and so on.
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Apr 17, 2013 13:46
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Yes, the cases come with 6 foam trays.
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Apr 17, 2013 13:55
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Is there an email when your stuff ships?
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moths posted:Is there an email when your stuff ships? I got an e-mail from webmaster@reapermini.com, with a subject of "Bones Kickstarter on its way", an order listing, and a tracking number inside when they were shipping.
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Cool, I'll watch for that email then. Thanks for the information.
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JoshTheStampede posted:Yes, the cases come with 6 foam trays. 6? Mine came with 2, which is all that would possibly fit.
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AlternateAccount posted:6? Mine came with 2, which is all that would possibly fit. Im just going by what the kickstarter site said. 6 half-width trays. Maybe that changed.
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My stuff is on a truck to me right now. I want it now, drat it!  Edit: And then they showed up! I took a quick look at the case and there are 3 trays that can be split in half, for a total of 6 half trays. If you're only seeing two, check the top half of the case. My third tray didn't want to come out of there at first. CaptainPete fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Apr 17, 2013 |
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CaptainPete posted:My stuff is on a truck to me right now. I want it now, drat it! Interesting! I never would have thought to check the top of the case, I also thought there were only 2 full trays. Thanks for the tip!
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I just exchanged contracts on my new flat  Now my reaper box is going to be delivered to work whilst I'm taking two weeks off to move D:
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Taran posted:Interesting! I never would have thought to check the top of the case, I also thought there were only 2 full trays. Thanks for the tip! No problem. I looked at the top and was like "Oh, that's where my third tray is!" I don't know about anyone else, but around 50% of my Bones are bent in some way or another. Most are minor things like swords, but I have a few that just lay flat. I'll try the hot water/cold water trick tomorrow and let folks know how it works. And, I'm already short a mini. I ordered two extra NOVA sets and one of them came with an empty bag. It looks like the bottom wasn't sealed right so the mini popped out somewhere.
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It's not going to be surprising if you're missing minis, since a 1% error rate is still thousands of orders
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I'm just hoping for an order in my favor. Because this isn't already a sick enough deal yet. 
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Swagger Dagger posted:It's not going to be surprising if you're missing minis, since a 1% error rate is still thousands of orders Oh, I'm not upset and I was prepared for errors. It was more of Murphy's Law feeling than anything else. Bad Munki posted:I'm just hoping for an order in my favor. Because this isn't already a sick enough deal yet. I bet plenty of people are going to rip them off by reporting problems that don't exist. I've done that with GW, but they kind of deserve it. And, I felt guilty.
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Yeah, I imagine that'll happen. If I got my order and it had a big error, honestly, I'd report it. Like, a dragon showed up that I didn't ask for, I'd be fair. I'm pretty sure they'd just say, "Lucky you!" but I'd feel better. If it were a small error, though, like a double-kobold bag or something? It'll cost them more to answer the phone than to just accept the extra grunt.  Similarly, if I'm missing one or two little dudes, I won't care. If I'm missing any of the extras I asked for, of course, that's different.
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Bad Munki posted:Yeah, I imagine that'll happen. If I got my order and it had a big error, honestly, I'd report it. Like, a dragon showed up that I didn't ask for, I'd be fair. I'm pretty sure they'd just say, "Lucky you!" but I'd feel better. If it were a small error, though, like a double-kobold bag or something? It'll cost them more to answer the phone than to just accept the extra grunt. There are certainly models in the base Vampire that I would ocmplain if I was missing. The big cybergorilla or a storm giant. But yeah, novamarine #4 or fred the chimneysweep will probably not make me pick up the phone when I know they will be swamped.
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Oh man, NOVA marine #4 is the poo poo, man, if you don't get #4, you might as well not have ordered the kit!
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JoshTheStampede posted:There are certainly models in the base Vampire that I would ocmplain if I was missing. The big cybergorilla or a storm giant. But yeah, novamarine #4 or fred the chimneysweep will probably not make me pick up the phone when I know they will be swamped. Speaking of the gorilla, I painted up the lead version recently for a mini exchange.   Hat was my work. The drill comes with the metal version, but the Bones will have the gun option integral. However, you can order the sprue with the hand options separately from Reaper for $2.27. It'd be a pretty easy conversion if you don't want the gun. No hand available for that arm, though.
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Welp, no foam trays in my box, time to give them an email.
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CaptainPete posted:I bet plenty of people are going to rip them off by reporting problems that don't exist. I've done that with GW, but they kind of deserve it. And, I felt guilty.  And you broke it for the rest of us who had a legitimate complaint and could look forward to an entire new box or blister.
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CaptainPete posted:If you're only seeing two, check the top half of the case. My third tray didn't want to come out of there at first. Derp, thanks! CaptainPete posted:I'll try the hot water/cold water trick tomorrow and let folks know how it works. Can you be more specific? I have a few jacked up ones, too. Bad Munki posted:Yeah, I imagine that'll happen. If I got my order and it had a big error, honestly, I'd report it. Like, a dragon showed up that I didn't ask for, I'd be fair. I'm pretty sure they'd just say, "Lucky you!" but I'd feel better. If it were a small error, though, like a double-kobold bag or something? It'll cost them more to answer the phone than to just accept the extra grunt. The paperwork in the box specifically says that if you got extra poo poo to just take it and enjoy it, they don't need to know.
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AlternateAccount posted:The paperwork in the box specifically says that if you got extra poo poo to just take it and enjoy it, they don't need to know. Oh, that's cool. Now all I need is my box! 
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AlternateAccount posted:Can you be more specific? I have a few jacked up ones, too. If your Bones are off-position, you can fix 'em pretty easily. Hold them in boiling water (with tongs, unless you really want to be a badass), then pull them out, quickly reposition them, and then dunk them in ice water. Works quite well. If you're doing a bunch at a time, you might make a "hammock" with a dish cloth to hold the minis in the water, so they don't get burned by the bottom of the pot.
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AlternateAccount posted:Can you be more specific? I have a few jacked up ones, too. Seems like it's the same as any mini that's plastic/finecast/whatever. Just boil a pot of water, dunk the screwey part into it for a couple of seconds, pinch the part between your fingers and sort of stroke it into its proper position. Do this a couple times until it looks right then immediately stick it in an ice bath and it should set like that. Bones are even more malleable than something like a really thin finecast sword or anything similar though, so I wonder if gravity might tend to drag them back to a droopy position over time.
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Gumdrop Larry posted:Seems like it's the same as any mini that's plastic/finecast/whatever. Just boil a pot of water, dunk the screwey part into it for a couple of seconds, pinch the part between your fingers and sort of stroke it into its proper position. Do this a couple times until it looks right then immediately stick it in an ice bath and it should set like that. Bones are even more malleable than something like a really thin finecast sword or anything similar though, so I wonder if gravity might tend to drag them back to a droopy position over time. Not so long as you set 'em with ice water. The only time they tend to stick out of position is when they're kept bent for a long period of time. Gravity shouldn't have an effect.
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